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4609425 No.4609425 [Reply] [Original]

Let's say the 2001 scenario plays out: We find an alien artefact buried in, say, Alabama. It's a big construct charting our solar system in detail even we have yet to do, with a series of illustrations telling us to fly out to Saturn (as it was in the book), cool shit is waiting.

Do we have the technology to get there and when could we leave? How would we go about it?

>> No.4609432

People would say we shouldn't go there because we don't have the money and if the aliens wanted us there so bad they should gives us the technology to do it. Others would say it's a trick by Satan. Some would see it as a sign from God. And then there would be those who are entirely enthusiastic about it, with some too eager.

>> No.4609442

>implying stonehenge isnt exactly this

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More srsly, why aren't we going up to the Moon with robotized metal detectors an shit?
It would make a lot more sense for aliens to drop a plaque on the Moon somewhere saying "lol we wuz hear" than for them to kidnap Alabamans.
Pic: my eerily appropriate captcha

>> No.4609460

>>4609455

>it would make more sense to drop a tiny piece of metal on a satellite that is constantly bombarded with debris in hops that a single species on the nearby planet will become space faring and discover it

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>>4609432

Thread over. You don't have to go home but you can't stay here.

>> No.4609485

>>4609460
Yes.
Yes, in fact.

Yes.

>> No.4609490

>>4609460
Think of it as a message with an expiration.
We had to have gotten to the moon before x time before the law of averages dictated that the message would be destroyed be debris bombardment.

Eat that.

>> No.4609525

>>4609490

That's what I love about xenophiles. You create a fictional narrative and write it as you go along to make sense within whatever limitations a skeptic brings up. Kind of like religious people who are so in tune with their god that they can make up excuses for why it made things the way they are.

>> No.4609532

>>4609525
How the fuck do you think Sci-Fi universes become so expanded?

Someone asks a question, and the writer/director instantly comes up with something satisfiable.

Fuckin' nerds.

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>>4609532

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>2001
>A good movie

>> No.4609741

>>4609532
Satisfiable in TV terms is different from real life.

The guy wanted to take metal detectors to the moon in the hopes that aliens left a message there. Jesus fuck. OK, even if that was logical from the aliens point of view (many assumptions) why the FUCK would we spend money on that shitty project when there is no sign that aliens even exist, let alone overcame the barriers of extra solar travel.

>> No.4609743

No, we don't have the technology.

>> No.4609748

>Do we have the technology

12 posts in and no one has actually answered the question. Would it be possible, given a big enough incentive, to fly to Saturn with a manned crew?

How long would it take? How would we approach this task?

Sociological implications are irrelevant. Use a less obtuse set up to your question next time OP.

>> No.4610037

>>4609748
If you are so smart, go ahead and enlighten us.

>> No.4610044

>>4609748
Purely technologically, without social or political considerations, it would certainly be possible to send a manned flight to Saturn.

Depending on the mass and propulsion method of the ship, the flight time could be anything from a month to a few years.

>> No.4610050

>>4610044
>a few months

Seriously? That's unbelievable. Can you back this up?

>> No.4610064

>>4610050
Yes, if the mission uses any of several open-cycle nuclear propulsion methods(Orion, fission fragment, gas-core), they will have the acceleration and ISP to go to Saturn and back in a very short time. Closed-cycle nuclear engines would take a little longer.

At such distances, chemical rockets are severely lacking in power and specific impulse and shouldn't even be considered unless you really want to build something the size of Earthport

>Earthport stood like an enormous wineglass, reaching from the magma to the high atmosphere. Earthport had been built during mankind's biggest mechanical splurge. Though men had had nuclear rockets since the beginning of consecutive history, they had used chemical rockets to load the interplanetary ion-drive and nuclear-drive vehicles or to assemble the photonic sail-ships for interstellar cruises. Impatient with the troubles of taking things bit by bit into the sky, they had worked out a billion-ton rocket, only to find that it ruined whatever countryside it touched in landing.

>> No.4610071

Elon Musk would pull it off, with Ron Pauls political assistance, and Kirk Sorensen would provide power. Neil Tyson would provide ideological support and cheesy tweets along the way.

Yes, we can.

>> No.4612567 [DELETED] 

>>4610071
That's nice.

>> No.4612894

>>4610071
You're a funny guy.