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You love this kid for his contributions to physics. Right, /sci/?

Now he's done a TED talk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4DaetCZ5v8#!

Enjoy.

>> No.4600069

What exactly has he proven?

Serious question.

>> No.4600073

>>4600069
I think he improved someting about general relativity.

>> No.4600084

>>4600069

He prooved gravity. No, I didn't make a mistake. HE PROOVED GRAVITY. Also, I'm pretty sure that kid discovered blow before he went on stage.

>> No.4600085

He proved that carbon is not one of the first elements to come into existence also.

>> No.4600096
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4600096

>his squeeky voice
>his laugh
>his barely feasible hairstyle
>those testy pops

>> No.4600098

> As Seen On: /sci/ - Science & Math

>> No.4600101

next thing you know, he's going to DUBS on /sci/

>> No.4600104

>>4600084
>>4600085
Well, good for him.

I'm going back to play some more of Red Dead then.

>> No.4600106

>>4600073

paper?

>> No.4600107

>>4600096
Unsurprising considering that nearly every aspect of his life has been a boost to his ego

>> No.4600112

>Kids
>Something valuable to say

Nope. Why do people let kids pretend they have something valuable to say again?

>> No.4600113

lol they claim this kid has autism? the way he talks in front of that crowd? lol

>> No.4600122

i've seen 2 minutes and man.. awkard laught and stuff. dude is aspie as fuck. my jimmies were a bit rustled

>> No.4600124

>>4600113
He received a hell of a lot of social conditioning and attention when he was young from his parents and a local autism support center. You can read about it on Jacob's own dedicated website: jacobbarnett.org.

>> No.4600133

3:36 - 3:40 priceless laugh and dance

>> No.4600136

i can't stand watching this faggot

i don't care how smart he is i want to punch him in the face

>> No.4600145

It's an interesting perspective; rather than just spoon-feeding concepts, if we give kids the tools to see the logical connections within math (and the positive reinforcement that comes with that discovery), perhaps those skills will translate into scientific achievements and entrepreneurship.

>> No.4600151

this is painful

I feel like I'm watching someone from /r9k/ giving a speech while drowning in spaghetti

>> No.4600155

Can someone please test this kid with some simple 4D and 5D spatial reasoning tests? Surely, someone who claims to think on that level should be able to complete them as easily as I would a 3D spatial reasoning test.

>> No.4600166

>Newton
>living during the plague

wait what? is my life a lie?

>> No.4600176

>>4600166
It wasn't the black death, it was another plague

>> No.4600181

>>4600061
>Now he's done a TED talk.
>TEDxTEEN
>implying that's the real TED

>> No.4600182

>"Special Ed was so special that it didn't teach me anything"

Only good remark he made

>> No.4600203

>>4600181
Giving a platform for just about anyone makes TED as a whole look bad.

>> No.4600211

Great speech, very energetic and captivating.

>> No.4600213

>>4600145

Kid's a huge faggot and the speech is basically him promoting himself (at least for the second half). But he's right.

I think one of the reasons a lot of people suck at math is because they don't really think about what it means and why it's important. Instead they're spoon-fed shit from a textbook and are told only to learn enough to do well on the next test.

Math is essentially about problem-solving and quantization of phenomenon (whether it's weird shapes or real life problems, etc.). People aren't shown why it's important and how you can actually logically think through most problems. If people were taught about why things are important and were taught think of things outside of just the context of textbooks, I think we would be much farther ahead in science, have a more scientifically-literate population, and have more people interested in science/math.

>> No.4600216

Oh my god.

The kid may be smart but his autism shows. He can't give speeches worth shit

>> No.4600264

That was fucking terrible. "Stop learning! Just *handwaving*! Also Einstein wasn't smart!"

>> No.4600272

>Don't learn! Think!
>gives no examples or indication of thinking

>> No.4600275

>>4600272
>this is how I see the number 32
pay more attention

>> No.4600280

i don't even mind the kid, but every time i try to watch it i just can't stop cringing and i turn it off.

>> No.4600286

>>4600275
this is how I see 32:

8======D~~~~~~

Trust me, it's rotations and additions.

>> No.4600292

The 32 part was insightful to say the least.

>> No.4600294

Fuck that kid for playing life on easy mode.

>> No.4600302

>A theorem is just a way mathematicians can think of stuff
Pure genius.

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>> No.4600318

>>4600302
>>4600286
>>4600272
>>4600264
>>4600213
>>4600136

So much jealousy in this thread.

>> No.4600334

I think his "stop learning and think" approach is true, actual research is a lot more creative than anything you do in school. But I don't think he has actually made any contributions to science yet. I have yet to see him demonstrate a deep understanding of General Relativity (the theory he supposedly is about to revolutionize) but I have seen him demonstrate a lack of understanding of GR.

>> No.4600342

He has autism no doubt.
But hes passionate and really good, he probably is intelligent too seeing how absolutely cocky about it he is

>that laugh
I closed it at 1/3 in.

>> No.4600344

>>4600334
>I think his "stop learning and think" approach is true
The only probably is any of us could have told you that.

Every person on /sci/ has probably met that
>I don't wanna see the proof, just give me the formula
faggot in their class before

>> No.4600347

I can't watch this. I don't even care whether he's a geious or not, I just can't stand listening to this kid.

>> No.4600352

>>4600318
Not really. If he lacked the narcissism and autism, I think a lot more people here would like him.

>> No.4600353

>>4600334
>I think his "stop learning and think" approach is true
It only really applicably if you're autistic like the kid and Newton.

>> No.4600359 [DELETED] 

>>4600061
Awww, he seems really nervous. I bet he has never had to give a presentation to so many people before.
He is doing very well though.

>> No.4600362

fucking spaghetti everywhere

I feel embarrassed just watching

>> No.4600371

>that girly scream at around 8:30

oh you can tell he felt pretty ashamed, not by the scream but because he let himself go to his autism nature

>> No.4600381

>13 Years old
>Obviously jelly of his talent
>Stay classy /sci/

>> No.4600378

> 9 minutes in
> joke about physicists having no friends

What a little prick.

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>Have kid with autism
>point them in the right direction

>> No.4600385

This kid is just better off working as a code breaker for some government agency and making cash to set him up for a good amount of time rather than giving talks with his extremely patronizing voice.

>> No.4600395

It's really depressing when people listen to a bunch of incoherent gibberish and think "I can't understand any of this. Dude must be a freaking GENIUS!"

>> No.4600401
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That was cute. I hope this kid carries his enthusiasm throughout the rest of his life.

>> No.4600404

The premise of the speech is flawed. It wasn't the fact that great scientists stopped learning and started thinking. It was the fact that their brain had the capacity and energy to synthesize ideas that they had learned. The autism within Jacob means he projects his own abilities onto everyone else. This kid is so Sheldon it's amazing though.

>> No.4600405

>>4600084
Yes, but can he draw a cat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Myy_BBBMG8&t=1m40s

>> No.4600408

>>4600334

You're fucking wrong, and a moron.

The two are completely compatible. The thing to avoid is blind memorization of "facts." To stop learning is fucking retarded. There is no reason to reinvent the wheel.

>> No.4600418

>>4600408
>The thing to avoid is blind memorization of "facts."

This pretty much, if you don't understand this concept by his age at least, you've fucked up the rest of your life anyways, in all likelyhood.
His autism allowed him to get it sooner and to also act upon it.

>> No.4600431

>I think his "stop learning and think" approach is true, actual research is a lot more creative than anything you do in school
What do you think Newton meant when he said: "If i have seen a little further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"?

>> No.4600432

>>4600405

Lol, that's the interview where he misapplies the integral test to a nonconvergent series. And shows off on national television that he isn't really thinking, just spouting off things he's memorized. When he mentioned that interview in the TedxYouth seminar, I was hoping he would make a self-deprecating remark about how he fucked it up. But no, he's the most brilliant human to ever live. If you could think in 5 dimensions you would understand.

>> No.4600440

>Don't learn! THINK!
>everybody applauds

Typical college talk

>> No.4600445

>>4600440
i'm fairly certain the majority of the audience was kids...

>> No.4600446

>>4600440

He's learned that much at least.

>> No.4600454

>>4600404
>Autistic
>"So Sheldon"
Why

>> No.4600459

>>4600101
after listening to that talk I can only assume he thinks /sci/ is pathetic and a complete waste of time because nobody here thinks for themselves

>> No.4600467

>>4600432
What did Beck mean exactly when he said Hawkins can think in 3 dimensions?

>> No.4600477

>>4600454
I would explain, but you probably don't have the IQ to understand so I won't bother.

>> No.4600481

>>4600477
0/10

>> No.4600483

Someone should make one of those wordclouds and see how many times he says 'i' and 'me' because I'm 10 minutes in and so far it's been nothing but mental masturbation over how smart he is.

>> No.4600486

>>4600467
Beck doesn't understand math. Ignore his opinions.

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4600487

It sounds shallow, but every time I hear about a story like this, the whole "child prodigy" schtick, I kinda wish they'd die prematurely, or never have a significant other, or pretty much go broke as soon as their popularity dies. I wish I were more or less born smart, like some of these people were. Then again Confucius himself admitted he wasn't born intelligent either, so maybe there is some hope.

>> No.4600492

>>4600467

I guess Beck thinks in 0 dimensions so anyone who thinks in more than 1 is a genius to him.

>> No.4600494

>>4600432 If you could think in 5 dimensions you would understand.
I'd like to see some evidence. As I said, 5D spatial reasoning tests would do it nicely.

>> No.4600496

>>4600431
I don't mean that people shouldn't learn, but that people should attempt to work things out themselves. You can read a derivation and understand how each step works, but science doesn't hand us derivations to read and understand, someone has to work it out. It is definitely correct that we benefit from the work of those who come before us, because when we get stuck we can just see how they did it. But at some point progress is the result of people putting down the books and working things out for themselves... and for anyone who wants to make such a contribution they should be preparing for this moment as soon as possible.

>> No.4600509

What did he say about the number 32? I'd rather not sit through a video.

>> No.4600510

>>4600432
Does the integral test work for that series? I don't think that integral converges.

>> No.4600523

>>4600487
>im fucking retarded
>I hope everyone that made an effort to succeed died, so we can all be average joes

yeah, go die in a fire

>> No.4600525

>>4600496
But to actually contribute, with 'new science'(please allow this vague term for the sake of this discussion) you first have to learn everything or almost everything that anyone have done in the field you want to work on, and probablly more than that would help. The thing is, yes you can remake calculus, but it would bring 2 problems, 1 it can take really long and so you will be wasting a lot of time and second the lack of common notation will be an impediment to communicate your knowledge(And i know that from my own experience) . So yeah, prooving some of the theorems yourselve, and having a deep understanding of everything you have learned, is a neccesity to contribute to your field, but it's also the best to learn from books and others' papers, beacause science every day is less and less an individual(in the most broad meaning of the word) activity.

>> No.4600534

I'M SMART SO I'M GOING TO CONFUSE THE *voice crack* FUCK OUT OF YOU BY TELLING YOU RANDOM BS!!!! HUH HEHEHEH HUHUHUH HEHEHE

>> No.4600536

>>4600510
Nope. It's clearly not a monotonic function. But Barnett was just blasting through his calc textbook without bothering to read anything but the formulas.

>> No.4600547

>>4600536
I think you mean periodic.

>> No.4600552

>>4600405

That video at about 9:42, he pronounces the abbreviation of cosine, instead of just saying the whole thing. I hate that kid.

>> No.4600562

>>4600523

Not even that, just:

>HUEHUEHUE I BORN THE SMARTEST
>Everyone else has to work years for this shit and an obnoxious pre-teen gets it for being autistic.

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>>4600552
>2011
>not pronouncing cos as "cos"

>> No.4600570

This kid is obviously very intelligent, and he's funny too. The only problem is that his autism or something is showing, because he doesn't deliver his jokes properly.

Also he appeared on Glenn Beck.

But otherwise, the people ITT are plenty jelly, and it's showing.

>> No.4600577

i couldn't handle more than a few minutes.

>> No.4600582
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>>4600061
This is not an official TED event. It is just some bullshit made to look like a TED event.

TED wouldn't give fucking retards like this a platform to speak.

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>>4600061
>implying this is a TED talk
>implying the kid isn't just spouting nonsense

>> No.4600609

You guys do understand that some of the greatest contributions to science and maths have been made by people who are bigger aspies that most of 4chan, right?

You can say he has an ego, but he also has a ton of potential and motivation that shouldn't be overlooked.

>> No.4600611

>>4600609
Obviously. Just watch Andrew Wiles in any video.

>> No.4600613

>>4600609
The kid is a fucking moron. If you can't figure that he is completely full of shit, then you are a moron as well.

>> No.4600617 [DELETED] 

>>4600613
He is not a moron, he is very clever.
He is going to publish a scientific paper.

>> No.4600621

>>4600061
he has wrinkles around his eyes already, lol

>> No.4600622
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>>4600061
Kid is a dumbshit.

>> No.4600631

>>4600617
>clever
>cant instantly see that the integral of sin(x) from 0 to infinity doesnt converge.
>takes 5 minutes to not solve it at the end.

this proves he just memorizes things with no understanding of what he is doing.

and i cant imagine how you are suppose to understand relativity if you cant grasp basic integrals.

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>>4600617
>clever

No, he is literally fucking stupid. He is all showman ship and no content.

>> No.4600635

The faggots who claims /sci/ criticizes because /sci/ is jelly of the kid apparently can't tell that the kid is actually full of shit.

>> No.4600638

"mathematically gifted"

Jacob detected for thinking he is special

>> No.4600640

>>4600547
It's both. But the criteria for implementation of the intergral test is that the series be monotonic, not aperiodic.

>> No.4600643

>>4600213

http://www.crme.soton.ac.uk/publications/kjpubs/somelessons.html

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>>4600061
>glen beck

He is a complete fucking moron.

>> No.4600646

>Any kind of criticism is just jealousy
>reality is he is just spewing nonsense...
>ISHYGDDT
>constanza.jpg
>stay classy /sci/ trolls

>> No.4600658

>>4600613
>>4600613
well you seem quick to call anyone who disagrees with you an idiot, but should I expect any better from an anonymous message board?

Was Lord Kelvin an Idiot for believed that flight that was heavier than air was infeasible shortly before the Wright Brothers proved him wrong, but you wouldn't call him a moron, right?

No, you wouldn't. And if by any possible chance this kid were to contribute something useful to the world, you would eat your fucking words in a second.

>> No.4600664

>>4600658

so mad

>> No.4600674

>Are you guys EXCITED?
Close the video there.

>> No.4600677

So tard

>> No.4600679

>>4600664
retorting to non sequiturs now, are we?

>> No.4600685

>"Heyi'mjacobbarnett, areyouguys EXCITED???"

I burst out laughing at this point and closed the tab.

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>>4600658
There is a huge difference in being an openminded scientist, and being a complete fucking retard.

This kid is a complete fucking retard.

>> No.4600699

>jason barnett giving a speech
"Oh that fucking faggot why won't he shut up"
>kind of actually has a point buried under it all
Still an egotistical faggot.

>> No.4600700

I'm sure this guy's clever, but it's such a fucking chore listening to him. It makes me want to hit him or something.

>> No.4600706

The only reason I don't hate this guy is that he's 13. 13-year-olds are usually assholes anyways.

When he hits 18 and is still irritating, then I'll hate him.

>> No.4600739

>>4600691
I'm simply using Kelvin as an example. he was a complete opinionated asshole, but most people wouldn't dare deny that he was intelligent

It seems commonplace today for someone to sincerely think that someone else is an idiot for sharing a different view.

If an 1Q of 170 and college education at the age of 12 doesn't in the least bit warrent someone being called intelligent or even show any sign of potential, than I guess we should all drop out an join a fucking labor force.

>> No.4600759

Kid lives an entirely unconventional life. He is probably going to get depressed from feeling detached from the world and immense pressure to perform and drop out of science

>> No.4600762

>>4600706

18 year olds are usually assholes, too.

>> No.4600772

Am I the only one who finds him cute in a fatherly way?

I'd like to go fishing with him to give him wise advices about life

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>>4600739
>no scientific content is his talk whatsofucking ever

>talk is laughable

>No one in there right fucking mind will give this kid any kind of credibility

And yet you keep defending this piece of shit? WTF is wrong with you?

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>>4600772
I'd like to go fishing with him deep out at sea. No witnesses! He will not be missed!

>> No.4600798

>>4600772
This, I hope he gets to live a normal life aswell as maintaining his career as a scientist.

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>>4600073

he has a gift from some higher power thats clear
the other is that Einstein and his theory's are wrong and should be discarded as such

>> No.4600815

>>4600787
I'm arguing that he has potential and is intelligent, not that he has any credibility, which I don't believe he does.

>> No.4600817

What this dude is

Really fucking smart for his age, and likely to make some important mathematical/scientific contribution later in his life. Something of a child prodigy

What he is not

An acclaimed, peer reviewed scientist who has already made significant contribution to his field

Since TED talks is just scientific sensationalism, it doesnt really change anything that he was on it

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>>4600772
>>4600798
>implying he will ever be a scientist
>implying he will make it to 18

If the kid isn't an a fucking mental institution, he will die a homeless crackwhore. I hope he likes HIV!

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>>4600073

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>>4600061
>>4600808

>> No.4600841

He has never done anything without the help of another professor or student.

All of his ``papers'' "he wrote" have all been done with not just himself, but with many others. You can most certainly tell from the writing that it's not him. The kid can't write nor talk with the autism he has to be taken seriously

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>>4600841
> Hurrr durrr REAL scientists work alone in a cave

>> No.4600890

>>4600819
>Implying he doesn't love HIV

Kid is all about the HIV

>> No.4600900

I hope this bullshit stops, once he goes into puberty

>> No.4600903

>hey guys, forget about rote learning and start thinking creatively

Yeah, that's really useful when you have to memorize 2000 pages textbook on human anatomy.

>> No.4600914

>>4600841
This.

People make it sound like he's writing graduate level papers. No. He's doing the type of research any undergraduate seeking graduate education would do.

>> No.4600956

>>4600061
Fuck me that was a painful waste of 18 mins of life. So smart people think, learn and then create? Thanks OP.

>> No.4600963

that high pitched voice
other than that no real complaints that aren't usually in TED talks

>> No.4600978

Huh

You know, Im a studio musician that usually just lurks /sci/ cause physics, space, and computer science are all really interesting to me. But this whole debate reminds me of a similar debate that goes on in my own profession

The concept of the educated musician vs the self taught. The educated musicians will talk about how they can read music, how they have hundreds of years of study and knowledge on their side, and all the academic arguments. They accuse the self taught players of being sloppy, ignorant, and self indulgent. The self taught guys usually talk about having soul, relevance, and other arguments similar to the autistic kid in the youtube video. They accuse educated musicians of being lifeless, bland, and self indulgent.

The truth Ive found for myself is that if your on either side of this argument, you are wrong. Here we are talking about two different abilities: the ability to take instructions and apply them to the real world (reading sheet music, or general relativity), and the ability to play with things in your mind and with your hands until you "figure it out"(improvising music, or creating an experiment)

BOTH of the ways of thinking are incredibly important. How many successful musicians do you think can improvise and cant read any music? How many scientists do you think created the most illuminating discoveries of our time without using a principle learned through text or school?

What it boils down to is that in order to be competent you need both of them, and so the autistic kids entire argument is trivial. We should be encouraging balanced, well rounded approaches. There are no absolutes (yet)

>> No.4601008

>>4600061

this child is being exploited by his parents and will likely encounter an unfortunate psychological denouement once the novelty of his youth wears off and his symptoms intensify

but until then, it is like watching a freak in a circus side show

>> No.4601037

This kid is basically a J. B. of science.

>> No.4601083

>>4600978
> How many scientists do you think created the most illuminating discoveries of our time without using a principle learned through text or school?
Not many.

>> No.4601118

>>4601083

Thats my point homie

Get on my level

>> No.4601124

>>4600643

>link to my uni

*clicks link*

>> No.4601166

>>4600978

There are actually plenty of "popular" people who can't read music. I can think of tons of metal musicians (just because I listen to that a lot). But there are also people like Thom Yorke, fucking Vangelis (I'm not 100% sure, but he said when he was a kid he refused to learn to read music), Kate Bush, etc.

Lots of people who can read it too. Lady gaga (not that I'm saying she is talented, but she can read music).

I think one issue is that learning to read music and learning theory can kinda kill creativity (if you just use accepted modes and don't try to think outside of the box). But I agree with my piano teacher, you have to know the rules to break them. I think overall it's definitely beneficial to know to read music and be able to think creatively.

>> No.4601175

>wearing sandals

>> No.4601178

lol OP's pic almost looks like a reaction image

Yeah, if you read about the history of the discovery of the atom's structure, you'll see that every generation of scientists required the knowledge of their predecessors to make their own breakthrough. Thinking without first learning is like trying solve a jigsaw puzzle wearing a blindfold.

>> No.4601200

>>4601178
Which is possible with teamwork.

>> No.4601219

>>4601200
myes

We tend to take this foregranted way too often

>> No.4601220

He's just a "look at me" little spoiled brat faggot.

Work hard, work smart, and have good taste in what you work on and you'll go further than him.

>> No.4601230 [DELETED] 

"floating up above the majority makes others look like they sink"
>I'll just leave that here

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you can't build a house without a foundation

>> No.4601368

poor fellow. born as aspie and buttfucked by his own parents.

>> No.4601411

>>4600061
Meanwhile, Jake is moving on to his next challenge: proving that the big-bang theory, the event some think led to the formation of the universe, is, well, wrong.

Wrong?

He explains.

"There are two different types of when stars end. When the little stars die, it's just like a small poof. They just turn into a planetary nebula. But the big ones, above 1.4 solar masses, blow up in one giant explosion, a supernova," Jake said. "What it does, is, in larger stars there is a larger mass, and it can fuse higher elements because it's more dense."

OK . . . trying to follow you.

"So you get all the elements, all the different materials, from those bigger stars. The little stars, they just make hydrogen and helium, and when they blow up, all the carbon that remains in them is just in the white dwarf; it never really comes off.

"So, um, in the big-bang theory, what they do is, there is this big explosion and there is all this temperature going off and the temperature decreases really rapidly because it's really big. The other day I calculated, they have this period where they suppose the hydrogen and helium were created, and, um, I don't care about the hydrogen and helium, but I thought, wouldn't there have to be some sort of carbon?"

He could go on and on.

And he did.

"Otherwise, the carbon would have to be coming out of the stars and hence the Earth, made mostly of carbon, we wouldn't be here. So I calculated, the time it would take to create 2 percent of the carbon in the universe, it would actually have to be several micro-seconds. Or a couple of nano-seconds, or something like that. An extremely small period of time. Like faster than a snap. That isn't gonna happen."

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>>4601411
Is this what the little dumb kid actually said?
Its comedy gold!

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>>4601230
Is that an actual quote?

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>>4601411
Wat? Why do they even let this little dumbshit talk?

Is he literally retarded??

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>>4601411
Wow, that is fucking laughable. He certainly has no carrer in science.

>> No.4601452

>>4600061
>>4601411
I almost threw up a little. It is supid as hell.

>> No.4601513

>>4601442

no. he's autistic.

i try to tell people this as often as i can. autism is not the same as intelligence. it's a fucking broken brain.

>> No.4601525

>>4601513

This.

People throw around the word autistic all the damn time around here and forget what it actually means. And to think a lot of you are actually threatened by him, do not say you aren't or you wouldn't give the time of day about what he said.

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>>4601525
No one here is threatened by him. We feel mirth at the thought that someone takes seriously what this kid says.
"the amount of carbon in the universe disproves the big bang theory". To fundies this means that dogdidit

The saddest part for him is that fundies have decided to prop him up on a pedestal, to use him as a figurehead in their war against education and enlightenment.

If this kid ever realizes what his parents and that asshole professor have done to him (he loves maths and science, and this debacle has already made him the laughing-stock of any science-literate person), he will probably wish they were dead.

Really, what he deserves is pity for having such utter assholes as parents and for having had such shitty luck as having that fucking shitty excuse for a human 'professor' egg him on.

Damn right I fucking mad! I hate seeing any kind of child abuse and this kind of media circus even more.

>> No.4601690

The kid's mathematical abilities and misguided ideas have really nothing to do with what he's talking about in this talk. Even so, what he's saying is not right. Yes, the rote memorization and thoughtless process of the American education system is fucked up and not working. The solution is to "not learn," it's to learn differently. "Book learning" is not a bad thing, and to suggest that it is is just fucking retarded.

>> No.4601858

I dont agree with his theory but still he's only young. Stop treating teenagers like adults.