/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4521552]

>No matter how technologically advanced man becomes, no matter how great our power to manipulate the universe, no matter how extensive our knowlege of existance there is nothing we can do to halt or stop the death of the universe. The quest for knowlege is no different then setting out on a quest to find the fountain of youth with an irremovable timed bomb strapped to your chest. One day the stars will grow dim and all life will wither and die. In the end All Is Dust...

[Anonymous No.4521556]

yup but we can jump into an alternate universe that is new and fresh in energy

[Anonymous No.4521562]

The death of OUR universe...

However, we could prolong our existence for billions of years if we can create a star from gas clouds, and collect planets that are rich in resources.

[Anonymous No.4521564]

>>4521556

>Actually believing in that shitty multiverse theory

What is autism?

[Anonymous No.4521575]

>>4521562

But we'd eventually die anyway, just furthur delaying the inevitable.

[Anonymous No.4521577]

>Implies we should stop science
>Posts on his computer

[Anonymous No.4521581]

>Ozymandias

God that poem is fucking deppresing

[Anonymous No.4521587]

>heat death
Yep. So?

[Anonymous No.4521590]

>>4521577

OP here, never said to stop science.

[Anonymous No.4521592]

Time is an illusion.

[Anonymous No.4521598]

>>4521590
Not that guy, but it's a common false conclusion for people who bring up heat death. You know, stupid teenage I-just-discovered-nihilism bullshit. Heat death, nothing matters, better bitch about it on the internet.

[Anonymous No.4521602]

>>4521575
Earth will be habitable for another 2 billion years. Assuming we haven't destroyed ourselves by then, I'm sure we'll work something out. The idea of storing large amounts of mass as gas clouds nearby to serve as future stars, the ability to drag resource rich planets to a location nearby (not even revolving around the stars you create, necessarily), could extend our lives by tens of billions of years unless the fabric of space-time deteriorates as well. We were using sticks and rocks just 7000 years ago. It's not a leap to think we could solve something like this in some billions of years.

[Anonymous No.4521618]

>>4521552

Please define death of the universe.

If your talking about the universe collapsing in on itself then you fail to understand what a flat universe is.

ie: universe won't collapse in on itself it will simply continue expanding.

Also, if the universe was dying in any way shape or form. For you to claim that we will never be able to stop w.e death that may be is wholly ignorant of how little we know about the universe.

tldr - fuck you/ expanding/ assumptions everywhere

[Anonymous No.4521629]

>entropy increases to a max
>there is no more useful energy in the universe
>everything expands
>everything goes dark

[Anonymous No.4521648]

everything eventually will end. Everything on earth will be gone long before the death of the universe.

Assuming we actually travel to other worlds... well that existence will all end as well. This shouldn't be all that new to anyone. nothing lasts forever, not technology, and certainly not you.
this does not however mean that everything is pointless, we progress for ourselves, and for future generations. Even if it all exists for a brief period of time in the long life of our universe

[Anonymous No.4521658]

CHANGE CAN NEVER, EVER STOP
/rant

[Anonymous No.4521666]

Well I know for a fact that death isn't non-existence so I don't care lol.

[Anonymous No.4521683]

Embrace the Omnissiah. There is no certainty in flesh but death.

[Anonymous No.4521699]

>>4521629
Then simply decrease the entropy where you are

[Anonymous No.4521710]

>the same thing as searching for the fountain of youth with a bomb on your chest.

Yeah, sure, if the bomb went off in several billion years and your natural life span is only 80+ maybe possibly if you're healthy.

I want those several billion years. And maybe in that time we'll figure out how to avoid heat death.

[Anonymous No.4521718]

>>4521683
i'd like you to embrace my flesh, if you know what i mean ;)

[Anonymous No.4521723]

>itt assumptions everywhere

[Anonymous No.4521730]

>>4521718
The Machine God is infinitely more important than such meat. I disregard said comment.

[M No.4521738]

http://discovermagazine.com/2011/dec/16-how-to-survive-the-end-of-the-universe/article_view?b_start:
int=0&-C=

It's a fun read

[Anonymous No.4521743]

>>4521738
>popsci
>>>/soc/

[Anonymous No.4521744]

>>4521730
well i can be a machine in bed, if you know what i mean ;)

[Anonymous No.4521746]

the problem is, there are more idiots being born than geniuses

[Anonymous No.4521777]

said Man, "How may entropy be reversed?"

The Cosmic AC said, "THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER."

Man said, "Collect additional data."

The Cosmic AC said, "I WILL DO SO. I HAVE BEEN DOING SO FOR A HUNDRED BILLION YEARS. MY PREDECESSORS AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED THIS QUESTION MANY TIMES. ALL THE DATA I HAVE REMAINS INSUFFICIENT."

"Will there come a time," said Man, "when data will be sufficient or is the problem insoluble in all conceivable circumstances?"

The Cosmic AC said, "NO PROBLEM IS INSOLUBLE IN ALL CONCEIVABLE CIRCUMSTANCES."

Man said, "When will you have enough data to answer the question?"

"THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER."

"Will you keep working on it?" asked Man.

The Cosmic AC said, "I WILL."

Man said, "We shall wait."

[Anonymous No.4521783]

I bet the sun won't even have become a red giant by the time the descendants of humanity are so advanced that time no longer has any meaning for them.

Just another aspect of the universe for us to conquer.

[Anonymous No.4521791]

>>4521552
its easy to reverse entropy. just input energy

whats that? where do we get energy from?

from another universe of course

[Anonymous No.4521794]

>>4521777
Asimov? I remember reading this many years ago when i was 14 or so.It brings me good memories.

[Anonymous No.4521795]

Not if we control entropy.

[fizx !d75etXAowg No.4521796]

Life isn't about the destination, it's about the journey... and clawing on to existence for as long as possible.

[Anonymous No.4521813]

>the death of the universe

And where did you hear about that? Some theory, I suppose.

You know, there used to be only one theory on how the universe came into being (big bang). Then more recently, new observations showed that there was matter before the bigbang, possibly from previous universes. So theories change, and so new observations are understood differently in this light.

[Anonymous No.4521817]

>>4521730
Mah cybro.