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Anonymous Mon Feb 27 22:44:53 2012 No.4412750 [Reply] [Original]

Ok /sci/ I have an idea that anyone the least bit educated is a supporter of Marxism. Care to challenge my hypothesis?

Please don't just insult people, if you disagree with me post a brief summary of points you feel marxism fails on, or why capitalism is superior.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 27 22:52:53 2012 No.4412771 I guess Marxism wins, thanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 27 22:53:01 2012 No.4412777 >Ok /sci/ I have an idea that anyone the least bit educated is a supporter of Marxism. Care to challenge my hypothesis? Isn't this pretty easy to challenge? All we have to do is find someone with a PhD who doesn't support marxism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 27 22:55:18 2012 No.4412787 >>4412771 your theory is such a ridiculous generalisation that its not worth engaging with.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 27 22:57:25 2012 No.4412794 >>4412777 lol >>4412787 Well it was more of a 'I am going to make you mad and hopefully you will argue with me until I can make sure I have my facts straight about marxism, economics, and political theory in general' type thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 02:17:05 2012 No.4413244 >>4412787 This. I am pretty well educated, and I know the political affiliations of over 15 people with at least bachelor degrees. None are marxists.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 02:31:41 2012 No.4413266 File: 42 KB, 640x489, hull problems.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4413244 electrical engineering reporting in, anarcho syndicalist, the only thing that makes sense

Anonymous Tue Feb 28 02:39:44 2012 No.4413275
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There is a phd in physics that worked on wallstreet for a couple years that posts on physicsforums that thinks Marx had 95% of it right. Everything but the violent revolution as a solution.

Do any of you fags really think you're smarter or know better than him?

Anonymous Tue Feb 28 02:43:08 2012 No.4413282

I'm a supporter of Hegel. Marx would had done well to listen to his teacher before trying to create his own system.

"If you're wrong about one part of a system, you're probably wrong about the entire system."~Hegel, I'm paraphrasing but it's a pretty famous thing he said.

Marx left out some pretty fundamental ideas when it came to human nature when developing his system that would supersede capitalism, and that's why it never superseded capitalism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 02:47:33 2012 No.4413287 File: 2.00 MB, 330x223, deer hump llama suit.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4413275 argument from authority

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 02:49:49 2012 No.4413291 I have a MSc in Physics and I support bolshevism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 02:52:13 2012 No.4413296 >>4413287 Argument from authority is the dumbest of the "fallacies" how is assuming that an intelligent person is more likely to correctly analyze socio economic concepts a fallacy?

Anonymous Tue Feb 28 02:55:37 2012 No.4413301
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>>4413296

Milton Friedman believes in capitalism and he's a well respected economist therefore he knows better than you that capitalism is right.

Noam Chomsky is the most quoted living author and is heralded as the greatest intellectual of all time, and he believes in libertarian socialism. He must know better than you and therefore libertarian socialism is right.

etc

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 02:55:37 2012 No.4413302 Economic calculation problem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 02:59:00 2012 No.4413309 Im going to go out on a limb here and say most if not all of /sci/ are technocrats.

Anonymous Tue Feb 28 03:01:16 2012 No.4413315
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>>4413296

Its generally said that in order for the argument from authority to carry weight that it needs to satisfy 2 points

1) X is a legitimate expert on the subject
2) There is a consensus among legitimate experts on the matter under discussion.

Anonymous Tue Feb 28 03:10:12 2012 No.4413329

Ok /sci/ I have an idea that anyone the least bit brainwashed is a supporter of Marxism. Care to challenge my hypothesis?

Please don't just insult people, if you disagree with me post a brief summary of points you feel capitalism fails on, or why marxism is superior.

Anonymous Tue Feb 28 03:11:28 2012 No.4413334
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Ok /sci/ I have an idea that anyone the least bit educated is a supporter of racism. Care to challenge my hypothesis?

Please don't just insult people, if you disagree with me post a brief summary of points you feel racism fails on, or why egalitarianism is superior.

Anonymous Tue Feb 28 03:25:05 2012 No.4413363

>>4413282
ahh, so it's human nature to be alienated from the means of production & subsistence and have to live by means of a wage. good to know, if marx were alive i bet he'd be really embarrassed right now!! after all, he never once considered or wrote about human nature!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 03:27:13 2012 No.4413367 If Marxism worked, it would have worked by now. The end.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 03:33:01 2012 No.4413377 >>4413367 >implying capitalism works

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 03:36:24 2012 No.4413380 File: 111 KB, 286x360, marxizm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4412750 >the least bit educated

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 03:36:24 2012 No.4413381 >>4413367 If capitalism worked, it would have worked by now. The end.

Anonymous Tue Feb 28 03:44:22 2012 No.4413393
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>>4413381
True capitalism is about creating wealth. The capitalism that we know and read about in the paper is parasitic capitalism. Pretty much the same sort of money changers that Jesus of Nazareth chased from the temple with a whip.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 03:56:49 2012 No.4413411 inb4 resident /sci/ economist responds to another troll thread to feel like he has some relevance in this board

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 03:59:05 2012 No.4413415 >>4413393 >True capitalism is about creating wealth. Wrong. Lrn2capitalism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 04:07:22 2012 No.4413422 >>4413381 Yea it only brought us the most comprehensive, persistent, readily available information network ever know to man. What did Marxism bring besides bread lines and stifled creativity? >If Marxism worked, it would have worked by now. The End.

Anonymous Tue Feb 28 16:58:04 2012 No.4415155

>>4413363
That's the point. Go read Kropotkin, real socialist who understand human nature shit on Marx's interpretation of economics.

And if you don't think economics has anything to do with human nature let me tell you brother, you don't know shit about either because economics has EVERYTHING to do with human nature.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 28 16:59:04 2012 No.4415158 >>4415155 understood*

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