/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4371158]

>mfw Nobel prize winner says that black people are less intelligent than white people
>mfw, to this day, the Nobel Prize was still not taken away from him

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/fury-at-dna-pioneers-theory-africans-are-less-intelligent-
than-westerners-394898.html

How can we stop racism in science?

[Anonymous No.4371163]

>taking awards away from people for anything less than plagiarism
no. go away

[Anonymous No.4371165]

With evidence. Provide some that will contradict his.

[Anonymous No.4371170]

>>4371165
>With evidence.

hurr, let's argue about it, derp

[Anonymous No.4371171]

>>4371165
>justifying scientific racism
>20 fucking 12

>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.4371179]

i think darwin? said that if you show the skulls of a negro and a white man to an antrhopologist, he will conclude that they are different species..

TL;DR anthropology is not a science

[Anonymous No.4371191]

/thread

[Anonymous No.4371201]

>>4371191
>Get photo of the pyramids or an islamic castle
Africa, 4000 years ago
>Get photo of homeless person in Rome
Rome, today

Your picture is bad and you should feel bad.

[Imhotep !jE19dxWPqM No.4371204]

There isn't much racism in science, in my experience. It is probably one of the /least/ racist communities out there. No one is perfect, but it is a meritocracy. If someone does good science than there is no way to deny them that.

[Anonymous No.4371205]

>>4371179
>>4371171
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ-e5XjlmZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GexZF5VIMU

[Anonymous No.4371209]

>>4371201
that doesn't even make any sense. the pyramids are in north Africa.

[Anonymous No.4371210]

>>4371209
North Africa is still Africa.
And the picture specifies Africa.

[Anonymous No.4371211]

>>4371210
really? now you are just looking for flaws that arnt there, everyone knows that black-africa is sub Sahara Africa.

[Anonymous No.4371213]

>Europe 14,000 years ago
>(mud shelters)
>Europe 4,000 years ago
>(mud shelters)

lol white people are retards, can't invent anything in 10,000 years

[Anonymous No.4371214]

So, black people are in general less intelligent due to their history and their current place in society. They get sligthly lower level of education due to these reasons.

That's is a scientifically provable fact. Why do people get called racist?

Even if blacks are or aren't genetically predisposed(is this true?) to have lower IQ it's just a fact and nothing else.

Where's the problem? Use the fucking scientific method to see if something is true or not?!

[Anonymous No.4371221]

>>4371158
nobel prizes always seem fishy to me, obama nobel for peace really?
maybe they won't revoke his title because... he's right?

[Anonymous No.4371228]

>>4371221

peace prize =/= physics, chemistry, and medicine/physiology prizes

[Anonymous No.4371237]

>>4371213

>Africa 200,000 years ago
>(mud shelters)
>Africa now
>(mud shelters)

lol niggers are retards, can't invent anything in 200,000 years

[Anonymous No.4371238]

>stop racism
>science

>stop numbers
>math

mathmaticians shouldn't descriminate

all numbers are equal

STOP TEH MATHCISM

[Anonymous No.4371241]

>>4371237
>implying your ancestors invented anything in that time either

[Anonymous No.4371243]

SCIENCE IS RACIS, DA ONLY TING KEEPING US PROUD BLCK PPL DOWN IS DA WHITE MAN N HIS RACIS "SCIENCE"

[Anonymous No.4371245]

The man being racist does nothing to belittle his scientific achievements.

You can't take it away because he holds extremist views.

[Anonymous No.4371247]

Not to add fuel to the fire but some cold hard facts we have to look at could be the following; africa's peoples had little to do with the renaissance and its revolution on the world, it's peoples have contributed less than Europeans to the global pool of knowledge.

Although the same could be said about asians, Asia has quickly caught up with the world through industrialization, and its people have begun to contribute for quiite some time now.

If we base intelligence on the way we live our lives then it can probably be drawn to the conclusion that secluded peoples are less intelligent. Just because they live in huts and tribal communities doesn't mean that they aren't surviving in the world in their own way, they just don't find obsession with dissecting the universe as the Europeans did.

[Blackman !medz1J/1Ok No.4371248]

[Anonymous No.4371249]

>>4371247
Or, you know, we can stop ignoring scientific studies and realize that maybe, just maybe, they are genetically different then us, and just so happen to have a average IQ bordering what the rest of the world considered mentally handicapped.

Wait nevermind, ignore me, that would be racist.

[Anonymous No.4371250]

BUT IT IS RACIS TO SAY BLACK BE DUM GUYS

Ill be leaving now, everyone seems to have left because they are afraid to be labeled racist.

[Anonymous No.4371252]

>>4371248
in after
oh boy here we go.

[Anonymous No.4371253]

>>4371237
>Europe 204,000 years ago
>fuck all, mud and rocks
>Europe 4,000 years ago
>fuck all, mud and rocks

Europeans can't do anything in 200,000 years.

>sub-Saharan Africa 2,000 years ago
>fuck all, mud and rocks
>sub-Saharan Africa today
>vast cities, modern infrastructure

Black people are like a thousand times smarter than white people, lol.

[Anonymous No.4371256]

Probably because they don't take away nobel prizes for saying empirically true things.

>"The study also found that the average IQ for African Americans was
lower than those for Latino, White, Asian, and Jewish Americans (85, 89, 103,
106, and 113, respectively; Herrnstein & Murray, 1994, pp. 273–278)."

http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

>"[the] mean ethnic group
differences in intelligence test scores: Jewish (mean IQ = 113), East Asian (106), White (100), Hispanic (90), South Asian
(87), African American (85), and sub-Saharan African (70)."

http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/2010%20Review%20of%20Nisbett.pdf

[Anonymous No.4371258]

ITT: stormfront

[Anonymous No.4371260]

>>4371258
How original, it's like your the first person to blindly accuse everyone of being racist simply for discussing the possibility of scientific differences between races.

Would you like a cookie?

[Anonymous No.4371265]

>>4371260
>being racist
>science

lol. what's next? your gonna tell me how women are less intelligent then men?

[Anonymous No.4371275]

>>4371265
I could, but you're obviously trolling. I don't want a thread about science if it's not going to be conducive to actual scientific debate.

Reported, enjoy your ban.

[Anonymous No.4371276]

>>4371256

I like how they deal with testing bias by spewing decades old results for a page.

Truly legit.

[Anonymous No.4371281]

There seems to be this disturbing attitude that not being racist/sexist and being politically correct is more important than scientific truth. If the scientific evidence showed x was smarter than y what the hell gives you the right to claim that's wrong or bad.

[Anonymous No.4371282]

>>4371276
>decades old results
>decades old results
>decades old results
>decades old results

Think about what you just said for a second.

[Anonymous No.4371284]

>>4371265
so determining how the gene works that make white people resistant to diabetes so that better medication for black people who don't have the gene can be made isn't science? becasue apparent ly its racist to say that gene even exists. so racist = science.

[Anonymous No.4371285]

>>4371275
>his opinion is different to mine
>he must be a troll!

stay classy faggot

[Anonymous No.4371286]

>>4371284
I guess also that blacks and asians can now safely ingest milk, saying the gene for lactase production as an adult is mainly found in whites is racist! And Kenyans no longer have better adapted leg muscles for fast sprinting.

[Anonymous No.4371287]

>>4371284
>white people
>resistant to diabetes

also
>apparent ly
>its

post invalidated. gb2 /b/

[Anonymous No.4371288]

im just gonna put it out there but africa in my opinion was better under colonial rule

[Anonymous No.4371291]

>>4371265
So now its sexist to say men are naturally taller and stronger than women and that women tend to have slightly better immune systems? Science does not bend to suit your pathetic beliefs.

[Anonymous No.4371292]

>>4371287
ill just take that ti mean you cant find actual fault in the post.

[Anonymous No.4371294]

>>4371282
I did. IQ tests have been horribly biased for many years. Backing up your point with inaccurate results is silly.

[Anonymous No.4371296]

>>4371292
>ti

[Anonymous No.4371305]

>>4371294

Please show me an example of a biased question on an iq test. I wish to see a written question that is somehow designed to stump black people but not Asians or white people.

[Anonymous No.4371306]

Ya'll are posting in a troll thread.

Everyone that has studied this stuff knows that the IQ gap exists in every country and every socieconomic group. The fact that identifying the truth is "raycis" in our society is extremely disheartening.

[Anonymous No.4371309]

>>4371288
im black in south africa. and this is true.

back then you knew you were a slave becasue you are black. you got a job and food and shit. and it sucked but it was passable. we used to work for the same white family for 100 years and were cared for, if one of us were sick they would buy medicine for us. but now, we were promised our own land, but when the time came the government took the land from the whites and gave it to blacks not even from around here, now we had to work for a black man who didn't care for us for shit and who completely destroyed the farm, so we left becasue we couldn't support ourselfs and went to a town to live in shitty government housing when we used to have a nice house on a farm.

being free from whites is only good if you have enough connections to powerful people.

[Anonymous No.4371311]

>>4371294

If Iq tests are biased toward the white people that designed them, why do asians score higher?

[Anonymous No.4371317]

>>4371265

3/10

[Anonymous No.4371328]

>>4371249
>Neanderthals
>superior to the Homo Sapiens

Go back to stormfront, worthless fuck.

[Anonymous No.4371333]

>taking away prizes because they speak the truth

[Anonymous No.4371337]

>>4371309
this
/thread

no offense but african politicians and statesmen are too corrupt and don't care about their people.
look at zimbabwe today. it is hard to imagine that once that country was called Rhodesia, and used to be one of the most prosperous nations in africa.

sure, it had inequality in a sense that many black people did not vote (voting was based on how much property you had i think?)
but after mugabe came and replaced ian smith, zimbabwe became one of the poorest countries in the world. pic related

also i recommend watching the movie "mugabe and the white african"
it basically tells a similar story to yours man. how black people who worked for white farmers loved their job. (some even had family graveyards on the owner's land). but after the land reforms, black politicians took the land from whites and people who worked on the farm got kicked out

http://www.alluc.org/documentaries/watch-mugabe-and-the-white-african-2009-online/192733.html

[Anonymous No.4371359]

>>4371328

They were, in many ways. Except breeding, which eventually made us the dominant species.

By the way, don't you think it's a bit prejudiced to assume I am a white nationalist, when an Asian could also claim to be superior to an African because of their Neanderthal DNA?

[Anonymous No.4371366]

>>4371359
>asians
>neanderthal DNA

what the fuck is it with the neanderthal dna? i hear that shit all the time but nobody explains HOW it makes one race superior to another..

that's like saying that dogs from america are superior to dogs from UK because dogs from UK bred with some other dog? i hope it makes sense

[Anonymous No.4371379]

>>4371366

Every race, except Africans (nigga's) have neanderthal DNA. This is a benefit, because Neanderthals have increased cranial capacity, are more robust than homo sapiens, and because they are more adapted to cold (which is important when you want to leave Africa into colder areas).

[Anonymous No.4371380]

>>4371366
>>4371366
diversity is good. it gave us more genes to play with to see which ones work better.

[Anonymous No.4371384]

>>4371380
>diversity is good.

why are you against black diversity then?

[Anonymous No.4371386]

>Blacks have superior fitness to whites and asians
That's not racist
>Blacks are generally less intelligent than whites and Asians
That's racccccccccccist

Liberals general

Also sickle cell doesn't exist, that's racist too

[Anonymous No.4371389]

>>4371384
wat? i don't deny that in 2000 years black-white-aision-eskimos will be the master race. but we have better ways to do it now with genetic engineering. and in the short term it will be very bad.

[Anonymous No.4371408]

NIGGERS NEED TO STOP BREATHIN THE WHITE MANS AIR. GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY, WE DON'T WANT YOU

[Anonymous No.4371430]

>>4371158
>suggest taking away someone's Nobel prize for hypothesising something with which you disagree.

You are everything that I despise.

[Anonymous No.4371438]

>>4371158
that's not how science works, libtard. You don't disregard evidence just because it's not politically correct

[Anonymous No.4371452]

>>4371430
this.

i mean, it wont matter if he is a phedofilic autistic child fucking murderer who traps people in a simulated nightmare until they kill themselves saw stile to the rithm of "fuck me silly" by Flandfish while broadcasting it to their loved ones who are being eaten by nazy jew christian new world order lithiolites in a ritual to summon saten to bring the myans back to end the world. if he made a theory of quantum gravity, he is getting a Nobel prose dammit.

[Anonymous No.4371456]

>>4371430

oops, forgot to mention that OP appears to have no justification for his disagreement at all either. it just gets better and better.

[Anonymous No.4371458]

>>4371430
>justifying scientific racism as long as it is a "hypothesis"

You are everything wrong with this world.

[Anonymous No.4371459]

Prove intelligence is linked to socioeconomic status or possibly culture.

[Anonymous No.4371461]

Intelligence is largely a genetic trait. If twins are separated at birth and one lives with a rich doctor and the other grows up in the inner-city, they should still have the same IQ. And on average, the IQ of a child is the average between the parents.

So intelligence is mostly an inheritable trait. Just like things like color of skin, shape of nose, texture of hair, etc. Why is it so wrong to admit to inherent genetic differences between different populations (in this case, races) on some occasions but not others.

Obviously it's because saying blacks are, on average, less intelligent is going to upset people. That doesn't make it wrong though.

[Anonymous No.4371463]

>>4371201
your knowledge of histroy is bad and you should feel bad

[Anonymous No.4371468]

>>4371201
>implying the pyramids were built by niggers

[Anonymous No.4371472]

[Anonymous No.4371473]

>>4371458

>implying scientific racism is wrong

no, you are everything wrong in this world

[Anonymous No.4371475]

Why do white people keep using facts and statistics? Fuck them.

[Anonymous No.4371479]

Fucking white people inventing science and technology.

[pascal !n5Z3VuZapw No.4371485]

>>4371475
I think the problem here is that there is 4 times as many white people as there are black people. Which cause distortions in the statistics, depending on how you look at them.

[Anonymous No.4371497]

>2012
>still believing in delusional equality garbage

Certain groups of people are stronger, faster, more resistant to disease, taller, shorter, or yes even SMARTER. It's just a fact of life.

Saying a certain group of people are smarter than another is as racist as me noticing that blacks pretty much always win the olympic races or that Asians are shorter on average.

PC bullshit is destroying science. If facts end where another person's feelings begin then we might as well abandon science altogether and just believe fairy tales that "God created us all equal".

[Anonymous No.4371499]

Can someone please post those links about indian/white teachers speaking out about what it's like to teach black kids?

[Anonymous No.4371503]

>>1679330

If Negroids were smart they would actually evolve as a species instead of attacking everyone else.

>If Negroids were smart
Oh wait...

[Anonymous No.4371506]

>>4371497

Agreed. Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge. Feelings and opinions shouldn't get in the way of science.

[Anonymous No.4371512]

There are Nobel laureates who argued in favour of creationism, telepathy and omeopathy.
It's not all that shocking.

[Anonymous No.4371514]

wow /sci/ im impressed. i never thought that you, of all boards, would be racist.

you might as well be /new/ 2.0, you bunch of bigoted faggots.
go outside and meet some black people and tell me they are "inferior" or less intelligent. you will most likely get beaten up so fuck all of you

[Anonymous No.4371518]

>>4371514

>unable to disprove the facts posted here
>calls us fascist

by the way, those niggers I met are the reason I'm racist.

[Anonymous No.4371520]

>>4371514

[Anonymous No.4371527]

>>4371518
>those niggers I met are the reason I'm racist.

THIS

i was never racist before because i grew up in a white neighborhood, but after i went to uni i became racist as fuck. its wierd that people who are not racist are either retarded or never lived/communicated with black people

[Anonymous No.4371532]

>>4371468
>implying they were built by a homogeneous white society

While I AM a racist, this entire "whites built the pyramids" argument is pure dumbassery.

[Anonymous No.4371534]

>>4371514
Much of /sci/ doesn't bother participating in these threads because they are tiresome. This isn't representative.

[Anonymous No.4371536]

>James Watson
>woman should have the right to abort her unborn child if tests could determine it would be homosexual.
>argued in favour of genetic screening and engineering on the basis that "stupidity" could one day be cured.
>claimed that beauty could be genetically manufactured, saying: "People say it would be terrible if we made all girls pretty. I think it would great."

All of that from one article plus his comments on africa in general, I see where he's going with this.

Anyway I wonder why no one ever talks about the Timbuktu Manuscripts, great zimbabewe towers, the walls of benin or the benin empire itself?

There were clear signs of intelligence of sophisticated thought that could have grown to something of a sub-par 1st world economy/power. But because of the colonial europe all of that "possibility" got swept under the rug for a while maybe even permanently.

Of course had africa did manage to keep up in progress I think the promotion of slavery would have lasted a bit longer. So who knows if that was ultimately for the best.

also,

>Dr Watson told The Sunday Times that he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours –

Or maybe because it's a politically corrupt society/government and giving money to it helps promote that process.

[Anonymous No.4371537]

>White race
>rapidly disappearing due to demographic attrition
>superior

lol

[Anonymous No.4371538]

>>4371536

>Or maybe because it's a politically corrupt society/government and giving money to it helps promote that process.

I'll go with his idea. Seems more simpler and plausible.

[Anonymous No.4371539]

>>4371532
I never implied any of that, retard. Pyramids were built by arabs

[Anonymous No.4371542]

>>4371537

If we follow that logic, a bacterium is superior to a high eukaryote because it is able to reproduce faster. It isn't.

[Anonymous No.4371543]

>>4371539

>ancient egyptians
>arabs

no

[Anonymous No.4371545]

>>4371539
>arabs
>existing as an ethnic group ca. 4000 years ago

[Anonymous No.4371550]

>>4371545
>arabs
>not white

lol no.

[Anonymous No.4371553]

>>4371545
Fine. if you want to be pedantic, let me change that to "people who lived in the arid regions of northern africa and the middle east"

that is, not sub-saharan blacks

[Anonymous No.4371560]

>>4371545
Egyptians were semites afaik which were basically arabs+jews

so yeah, he is not wrong when he says that pyramids were built by arabs. semites were proto-arabs and proto-jews, bit i want to warn you that im not very knowledgeable on this subject

[Anonymous No.4371565]

Why exactly OP? If something can be proven, it doesn't matter what the fuck all the feminists and whatnot say? If I can prove you are a retarded asshole, I am going to call you a retarded asshole. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it, or tell science to "hurr stop being mean".

[Anonymous No.4371568]

Speaking of nobel laureates, how many of those are black again and in which fields?

[Anonymous No.4371570]

>>4371204
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc1zGRUPztc

[Anonymous No.4371577]

His prize shouldn't be taken away.

But you also shouldn't cherry-pick one nobel prize winner who will say what you want to hear on a topic that has nothing to do with his expertise, when dozens of other nobel prize winners who are equally or more expert on the topic will disagree with him.

[Anonymous No.4371578]

>>4371577
>nothing to do with his expertise
>DNA and genetics
>nothing to do with his expertise

wat

[Anonymous No.4371580]

>>4371570
I rage so god damn hard every time I see that video.

[Anonymous No.4371585]

>>4371570
is that even real?

[Anonymous No.4371588]

>>4371585
Yes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-akk3gog34

[Anonymous No.4371590]

>>4371578
>implying he studies intelligence

[Anonymous No.4371594]

>>4371588
>he could have called it a "white hole"
>it all comes down to culture

i almost punched my screen. goddamn I MAD

[Anonymous No.4371595]

>>4371588

[Anonymous No.4371601]

>>4371577
>when dozens of other nobel prize winners who are equally or more expert on the topic will disagree with him.
Pretty much this. Appeals to authority wouldn't support this guy even if we accepted them as valid.

[Anonymous No.4371604]

>>4371588
but he has a point. why are black holes called "black" and not white?

[Anonymous No.4371607]

>>4371588
>>4371570
Scientists call it a black hole because light cannot escape. He in response calls it a white hole because he's a racist.

Why are these people allowed to breath?

[Anonymous No.4371610]

>>4371604
BECAUSE THEY'RE DARK. NO LIGHT WHATSOEVER ESCAPES FROM A BLACK HOLE. FUCK.

[Anonymous No.4371611]

>>4371604
>Why is it dark in the room when there is no light, and not white?

[Anonymous No.4371614]

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[Anonymous No.4371621]

>>4371610
>>4371607
The "black sheep" example was retarded too. Sheep are almost always white, and once in a while there's a black one (recessive genes), and so they're the odd one out, which is what "black sheep" means. It's got fuck-all to do with race.

[Anonymous No.4371624]

>>4371621
I hope for your own sake you are trolling.

[Anonymous No.4371625]

>>4371527
Holy fuck, are you me? Or are you like so many others like me?

[Anonymous No.4371626]

>>4371614
Because there remains a large group of people who wish to disenfranchise and demonize ethnic minorities, and aren't interested in truth in the slightest.

If no one gave a shit about race, we could all be more honest about this. But if I hear a guy talking about how people of African descent are "inferior" or some shit, I'm absolutely justified by evidence to believe that he's just a racist, rather than just trying to find the truth. I would try to verify, sure, but if I had to bet on it, chances are great that he's not being an impartial seeker of truth.

[Anonymous No.4371629]

>>4371624
Not even trolling. But why did you think I was?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_sheep#Biological_origin

[Anonymous No.4371631]

The problem is black people are not going to get fair and equal treatment by society no matter whether they're adopted and their parents are white, no matter what schools we put them into, no matter how much money we spend to teach them.

Outside the classroom they will still be given unfair and unequal treatment by society. It's literally impossible to determine their level of intelligence based on test scores that don't take into account how they interact with others outside school, how they're belittled by most members of society, how they're culture naturally distrusts 'white' institutions.

To actually determine their IQ you would need to raise white and black children on the far side of the moon with no interaction with anyone but each other and that will simply never happen.

[Anonymous No.4371637]

>>4371631
>hurr durr we are all equal
>its the society's fault that jamal killed that kid for drug money

kill yourself

[Anonymous No.4371640]

>mfw I grew up in a pretty poor neighborhood
>mfw my first childhood friends were black
>mfw I was close with them and their family
>mfw most people would could consider me racist simply because I accept the fact that they are on average less intelligent, despite the fact that I have no problem with them on a person-to-person basis

[Anonymous No.4371641]

>>4371637
So you claim social factors mean nothing in people's behavior?

Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.4371642]

Why is it we are so afraid all of a sudden to be different, or to tell someone they are different? This is not only with skin colour or other factors, but just look at the modern feminists and the way they promote gender equality in every god damn aspect possible. Criticizing corporations for making boy toys or girl toys, and criticizing people for telling that some people are smart and some are stupid.

What happened?

[Anonymous No.4371647]

>>4371642
A special brand of insanity that simultaneously praises diversity while seeking to destroy it.

[Anonymous No.4371648]

>mfw black friday is racist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi49EXmYHT8

[Anonymous No.4371649]

>>4371631
>BAWWWWWW RACCCIIIISSTTT


Niggers are mistreated BECAUSE they are stupid and aggressive, not the other way around, you creationist mentally ill retard.

[Anonymous No.4371650]

>>4371648
Sure, it's not like it has anything to do with the history of account and using black ink to denote positive balances and red ink for negative. "In the black" is a good thing.

[Anonymous No.4371652]

>>4371640
While it's true that black people are on average less intelligent, do you see that it is problematic to assume any given black person is less intelligent, or that these differences in intelligence can be attributed to genetics? If you grew up in a poor neighborhood and you're white, chances are you're less intelligent. I can't say that for certain though, and therefore I must refrain from being prejudiced.

[Anonymous No.4371655]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s

[Anonymous No.4371656]

>>4371641
Social factors exist due to biological differences.


You faggot leftists worship this mythical idea of "society" that is responsible for everything bad and that you can just engineer it by lying to people enough.

[Anonymous No.4371658]

>>4371652
In YOUR OPINION prejudice is wrong. In YOUR OPINION racism is bad.


Your morals are not absolute.

[Anonymous No.4371661]

>>4371657
>BAWWWWW RRRRRAAACCCCIIIIISSSSTTT


Racism is good.

Racism is good.

Racism is good.

[Anonymous No.4371657]

>>4371649
If you mistreat someone on the basis of skin color rather than their actual personal behavior, you're a fucking racist. And fuck you if you do this. I wouldn't want anyone assuming things like that about me just because of my skin color.

[Anonymous No.4371665]

>>4371656
Don't pretend that it doesn't go both ways. There are great studies about how you can make kids to better or worse on tests just by splitting them into groups and telling them that they're in the "gifted" or "remedial" group.

[Anonymous No.4371668]

>>4371658
So, you'd be fine with not being hired because you're not the right color, despite your excellent resume, references, skills and behavior?

[Anonymous No.4371675]

racism is not bad. many people are racist. its an evolutionary trait NOT to trust people who look different, because usually it brought sickness or some other horrible shit.

anyway, racism is not bad and can't really be destroyed, even though many leftists believe that you can destroy racism by increasing diversity. Discrimination IS bad because you limit somebody's rights based on things that they were born with.

racism - good
discrimination - bad

i would bet 100 dollars that everyone here is racist BUT would never discriminate based on color of skin.
i do however discriminate based on gender, but it is based on my personal experience with women

[Anonymous No.4371682]

>>4371675
I don't think you're using the same meaning for "racism" that most people do. Though I think you're right that racism is mainly derived from an inherent distrust of out-groups.

There was lots of racism against the Chinese in California when they were migrant workers. Lots of terrible stuff. But you don't often hear people claiming the Chinese are subhuman today (anymore).

[Anonymous No.4371683]

>>4371675
>its an evolutionary trait NOT to trust people who look different, because usually it brought sickness or some other horrible shit.

[gifuckingnormous citation needed]

[Anonymous No.4371690]

>>4371655
lol@ reported
>im jewish

[Anonymous No.4371692]

>>4371675
This pretty much.

[Anonymous No.4371695]

>>4371652
>While it's true that black people are on average less intelligent, do you see that it is problematic to assume any given black person is less intelligent, or that these differences in intelligence can be attributed to genetics?
To assume that someone is less intelligent (than you) based simply on skin color is racism. However, what I do, and I do it equally to every race, is assess their intelligence based on a multitude of factors. If I see a black person in a suit and tie with glasses, next to a white guy with baggy pants a sports jersey and a backward baseball cap, I'm going to assume that the black guy is more intelligent. On the flipside though, if I see a black guy and a white guy both wearing the basic "gangsta" garb (baggy pants, sports jersey and a backward baseball cap or doo-rag), I'm going to assume the white guy is more intelligent because his skin is an indicator of his genetics and studies show that whites have a higher average intelligence. I'm still going to assume that they both have an intelligence below average, but the black guy I would place at around 85 where I would place the white guy at about 90 or 95. Because intelligence has been empirically shown to have a substantial genetic factor, and I see no problem in using the available evidence to ascertain a more accurate probable situation.

>If you grew up in a poor neighborhood and you're white, chances are you're less intelligent. I can't say that for certain though, and therefore I must refrain from being prejudiced.
You'd be wrong anyway, and not just because I happen to be above average intelligence, but because upbringing has some, but little correlation with intelligence. And you would indeed be unjustly prejudiced to assume that, especially because it isn't backed by solid evidence.

[Anonymous No.4371698]

>>4371695
You sound very rational and reasonable.

Be careful where you let it show. Most people aren't so sane.

[Anonymous No.4371699]

>>4371675

Exactly what is your definition of racism then? Recognizing different phenotypes in a species?

If so I'll agree
not being blind - good
discrimination - bad

If not, please explain.

[Anonymous No.4371709]

Successful troll is successful.

[Anonymous No.4371716]

>>4371695
This.

Saying that blacks are, on average, less intelligent is not racist if it's true. Meeting a black person and thinking "he must be less intelligent because he is black" is racist. Taking skin colour into account when assessing someone we don't know is no more or less discriminatory than taking their clothes, posture, speech etc. into account.

[Anonymous No.4371720]

>>4371458
Are you retarded? Are you seriously suggesting that this guy's work on DNA is any less true or significant just because he also happens to have evidence or reason to believe that black people are likely to be less intelligent? That's absurd.