/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4365668]

Is pic related scientifically accurate?

[Anonymous No.4365671]

You can arrange your stamp collection any way you like.

[sage No.4365673]

HERPADERP RACE AND GENDER ARE SOCIAL CONSTRUCTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MOBY DICK SAYS /LIT/ IS THE SMARETESED BOARD ENGLISH MAJORS UNITE ON FOUER CHAN EDGY AS FUCK SWAG AND BOOKS MAN 420 SMOKE WEED

[Anonymous No.4365677]

>>4365673

[Anonymous No.4365683]

depends on what your point in defining it is i.e. if you are a psychologist you probably believe that shit.
In my books definitely is determined by chromosomes
>xx xy

[Anonymous No.4365689]

>>4365673
Why is it that science aspies never understand the importance of literature?

[Anonymous No.4365693]

>>4365673

This.

[Anonymous No.4365695]

Definition 3b. of “gender” from the OED: “Psychol. and Sociol. (orig. U.S.). The state of being male or female as expressed by social or cultural distinctions and differences, rather than biological ones; the collective attributes or traits associated with a particular sex, or determined as a result of one's sex. Also: a (male or female) group characterized in this way.”

If it can be empirically demonstrated that the picture is in agreement with this or any other definition given by a reputable source, then yes, it is “scientifically accurate.”

[Anonymous No.4365697]

>>4365689
you're right. what would we do without teenage vampire books or other useless shit.

the only literature worth a fuck is science related and has an average of at least one equation per page.

[Anonymous No.4365698]

PROTIP:

Sex, Gender and Sexuality are 3 different things

[Anonymous No.4365701]

>>4365697
>one equation per page

Biologist detected.

A hard science book has one sentence per page and is otherwise full of equations.

[Anonymous No.4365704]

>>4365701
>an average of at least

[Anonymous No.4365705]

>>4365697
>vampire books

Is this what aspies consider literature? I'm pretty sure you failed your English classes.

[Anonymous No.4365706]

>>4365697

>implying the Twilight Saga qualifies as literature (technically, it does; but not the kind of literature in question)
>the only literature worth a fuck is science related

It takes a very special kind of fool to take pride in having his head up his ass.

[Anonymous No.4365707]

>>4365695
this.

You must first define "gender", OP. According to the common understanding of what the term means, the pic is correct. However, it wouldn't be correct if the word "sex" were used instead.

[Anonymous No.4365710]

>>4365705
even if i did, i would find no shame in that considering those classes involve writing bullshit essays about a topic your professor cares about.

[Anonymous No.4365713]

>>4365705
ass blasted english major detected

enjoying those shit analysis papers that do not contribute a salt grain to society or the advancement of this specieis?

[Anonymous No.4365718]

I hate psychologist
Sexologist John Money introduced the terminological distinction between biological sex and gender as a role in 1955. Before his work, it was uncommon to use the word "gender" to refer to anything but grammatical categories.[1][2] However, Money's meaning of the word did not become widespread until the 1970s, when feminist theory embraced the distinction between biological sex and the social construct of gender.


Of course the fucking feminist had to jump on this shit

[Anonymous No.4365719]

>>4365710
Too assburger to write a good essay? You better stay in your basement, while real alphas run the society.

[Anonymous No.4365726]

>>4365713

>to society

A society’s literary culture is one of its most important defining aspects.

>the advancement of this specieis [sic]

Technological advancement amounts to fuck-all if we turn into a collective of knuckle-dragging cavemen.

[Anonymous No.4365727]

>>4365719
why would i want to write essays especially about some idiotic issues like fast food? i would have to be as retarded as you.

[Anonymous No.4365728]

>>4365713
Literature and liberal arts are the motor of social advancement and progress. If everyone was an autist like you, humanity would be extinct by now.

[Anonymous No.4365730]

>>4365719

>write essay
>run society

Pick one.

[Anonymous No.4365731]

>>4365728
at least that would mean no moron idiots like you.

[Anonymous No.4365737]

>>4365727
>>4365730
>>4365731
You don't even understand the point of essays, do you?

[Anonymous No.4365739]

>>4365731

>at least that would mean no moron idiots like you

[Anonymous No.4365740]

>>4365728
No, they are not. Provide evidence suggesting such. Literature and entertainment contribute to the liquefaction of the brain. Fictitious work provides a means of expression, sure, but nobody gives a fuck about something that has little relevance to reality.

[Anonymous No.4365741]

The picture is literally and intentionally bullshit

It's supported by leftists who REJECT science, biology, genetics, etc because it demolishes their egalitarian worldviews.

[Anonymous No.4365747]

>>4365740
>wants to live in the dark ages of barbarism

[Anonymous No.4365748]

gender is not the same as sex.

the left part of the pic represents gender, the right represents sex.

[Anonymous No.4365750]

>>4365741
>biology

Really?

[Anonymous No.4365751]

>>4365737

To keep morons busy while productive people do real work?

[Anonymous No.4365752]

>>4365740

>http://oedb.org/library/features/50_books_that_changed_the_world

This link is pretty much self-explanatory.

>>4365741

How would you propose it be rectified?

[Anonymous No.4365756]

>>4365728
>Literature and liberal arts are the motor of social advancement and progress.

Pure dogshit, especially since liberal arts have been taken over by leftists and utterly destroyed.

[Anonymous No.4365757]

>>4365668
I'm pretty sure gender is defined by body parts.

[Anonymous No.4365760]

>>4365752
>Guerilla Warfare by Che Guevara. A Marxist revolutionary famous for helping the plight of the oppressed, Guevara wrote this book as an instruction manual of revolt for those trapped in a totalitarian regime. It has become a guidebook for thousands around the world, not only those living in an oppressive state.

you are retarded and your link is full of faggotry. go back to >>>/lit/

[Anonymous No.4365765]

>>4365760

The issue at hand is whether literature has an impact on society, not whether you agree with the viewpoints of any given author.

[Anonymous No.4365767]

>>4365752
A bunch of inane political bullshit? No. A scientific government/economy such as those suggested by the Kardashev scale would be much better.

[Anonymous No.4365769]

reported for /lit/ troll enjoy your 2 week retard ban

[Anonymous No.4365773]

Pretty sure a lot to do with gender (as a behavior) is just as biologically ingrained as sex is. Boys aren't going to (generally) stop playing with cars and sticks over dolls and kitchen sets if you don't expose them to "social constructs."

[Anonymous No.4365776]

>>4365765
the issue at hand is that your link is full of retarded shit, and the fact that this was in the top 15 books just goes to show that.

[Anonymous No.4365777]

It's accurate, so long as the term "gender" is used, and not "sex".

[Anonymous No.4365779]

>>>/lit/2405372
They are already trolling us. Reported.

[Anonymous No.4365782]

>>4365767

>Literature and liberal arts are the motor of social advancement and progress
>Provide evidence suggesting such
>50 books that changed the world
>A bunch of inane political bullshit? No.

Inane political bullshit that drives social advancement and progress. I don’t give a rat’s ass about your personal political ideology, least of all if it’s as well-formed as your ability to track a coherent train of conversation.

[Anonymous No.4365784]

>>4365776

How you feel about it doesn’t change the impact it’s had—or anything else particularly important, for that matter.

[Anonymous No.4365794]

>>4365784
the books are irrelevant

[Anonymous No.4365798]

>>4365767
>A bunch of inane political bullshit
Stay autistic, /sci/.

[Anonymous No.4365800]

Gender =/= sex, you guys are clearly not that smart. And yes OP's pic is accurate.

Gender is just the role that a specific sex plays in a society.

The funny thing is that gender is that gender is that.

Gender=Psychological/Sociological
Sex=Biology.

That's what any biologist or psychologist would say. But since biology and psychology are not real sciences. That doesn't concern us, and we'll use the terms as we please.

Right guise?

[Anonymous No.4365803]

You don't even know to appreciate the achievements of literature, do you?

/sci/ must be full of pseudo-intellectuals considering themselves intelligent for knowing some equations while they can never read and understand a real book.

[Anonymous No.4365805]

>>4365800
>Arbitrary self chosen definitions
>2012
>2012

[Anonymous No.4365807]

>>4365800
So if i bark like a dog and walk on 4 legs, i am one?

[Anonymous No.4365808]

>>4365794

History begs to differ. Imagine what America alone would be like without the published works of Locke and Rousseau.

>>4365805

Actually, the definition is neither arbitrary, nor self-chosen; it is the one held and published by one of the most reputable lexicological bodies in the English-speaking world:

>>4365695

[Anonymous No.4365809]

>>4365803

The achievements of literature are right up there with the achievements of praying.

It's a way to look like you're helping while sitting on your ass and doing fuck-all.

[Anonymous No.4365811]

>>4365805

Nope. That's how psychologist and biologist define it.

>>4365807

Species=/=Gender
Species is a totally different concept.

[Anonymous No.4365812]

>>4365807
No, you are not, because dogs are a spectrum and not defined by their behaviour.

[Anonymous No.4365813]

>>4365803
We're too busy using rational symbolic logic to relate to actual human concerns. That's why most of us are friendless virgins.

[Anonymous No.4365815]

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[Anonymous No.4365817]

>>4365812
are you implying dogs are not a social construct?

[Anonymous No.4365820]

>>4365809
>this post
Wow.
Would a world without art be a world worth living in?

[Anonymous No.4365826]

>>4365809

Yep, modern societal constructs such as the representative government and government-funded social improvement works are right up there with the way Babby Jesus helped Tebow win the Super Bowl.

>It's a way to look like you're helping while sitting on your ass and doing fuck-all.

In contrast to everything you’ve done to further cancer research or the curing of AIDS?

[Anonymous No.4365835]

>>4365826

>In contrast to everything you’ve done to further cancer research or the curing of AIDS?

Precisely. You've forgotten which board you're on, haven't you?

[Anonymous No.4365838]

>>4365835

>which board I’m on
>4chan

Oh, yeah.

[Anonymous No.4365841]

>>4365826
Excuse me sir, allow me to inform you that your methodology is flawed.

Government systems owe their existence in a much greater degree to the needs of commerce and internal security than to arts and philosophy.

Now go choke on a million dicks.

[Anonymous No.4365844]

>>4365841

>has never read the US Constitution

[Anonymous No.4365848]

>>4365841

... secure the blessings of libery for ourselves and our posterity, plus write the great American novel and build really cool museums, do ordain ...

[Anonymous No.4365850]

>>4365841
>2012
>undervaluing the role philosophy has played in both science and art

[Anonymous No.4365853]

>>4365850

When you ace your Calc I final but can’t even pass your freshman POSI exam, you tend to hold one in higher stead than the other, I find.

[Anonymous No.4365854]

Everyone in this thread is retarded.
It's not scientifically accurate because gender is not science. It's a social construct invented by transgenders and feminist to validate themselves.

[Anonymous No.4365856]

>Gender is not determined by chromosomes

Every thought you have, every thing you have done, are doing, or will ever do, is to some degree determined by genetics. It's foolish to flatly dismiss any behavior as having no genetic relation.

[Anonymous No.4365861]

>>4365854

Can we stop discussing this then? The sex vs. gender debate is really, really tiresome. I can't tell you how many times someone's brought this up at a party and I've had to walk away.

[Anonymous No.4365862]

>>4365854
you are forgetting that science is also a social construct invented by the misogynists in an attempt to free the world of high end female intellectual power

>what /lit/ would actually believe

[Anonymous No.4365867]

>>4365854

Implying Psychology is not a science.

Not sure if aspie or just very ignorant.

[Anonymous No.4365871]

>supposed to be the most intelligent board on 4chan (not that that’s saying much)
>doesn’t even understand the fact that society owes its underpinnings to more than a few equations and formulae

PROTIP: For the thousands of years of human history prior to the Enlightenment, and for a good while after, ALL societal advancement was accomplished vis à vis the written word. Do you think that suddenly changed when Newton “invented” calculus?

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.4365875]

>>4365862
>what /lit/ would actually believe

[Anonymous No.4365877]

>>4365861

We can't stop discussing it because some retards deny science.

There's a real and clear difference between gender and sex.

[Anonymous No.4365879]

>>4365856

No one ever said that gender was independent from genetics, just not strictly determined by it. Influenced, yes. Determined, no.

[Anonymous No.4365884]

>>4365867
>implting it is
>implying psychology is anything
>implying psychology is even philosophy

[Anonymous No.4365885]

>supposed to be the most intelligent board on 4chan (not that that’s saying much)

Exactly what i thought when i came here, this board is a joke.

[Anonymous No.4365886]

>>4365877

I'm aware of that. I'm simply curious what point is being made by continuing to ask the question. Sex determines physiology; gender determines identity. What more is there to talk about?

[Anonymous No.4365888]

>>4365885
Two types of smart: /sci/ smart and /lit/ smart. Both boards are fucking retarded conceding the other type of smart, but unfortunately society values /lit/ smart much more.

[Anonymous No.4365892]

>>4365888

>conceding
*concerning

Joking aside, though, it’s not like you often find people with a semblance of intelligence in more than one field in a place like 4chan. I mean, most people who learn about it start with /b/, for Christ’s sake.

[Anonymous No.4365894]

>>4365826
>the curing of AIDS?

aids is a political disease, the solution is not being degenerate faggots, promiscuous sluts, or a drug addict.

[Anonymous No.4365897]

>>4365888
> but unfortunately society values /lit/ smart much more.
0/100, see me after class

[Anonymous No.4365898]

>>4365871
>Newton "invented" calculus

What?

[Anonymous No.4365900]

>>4365848
>our posterity,

Funny how they ignore this part of the constitution.

[Anonymous No.4365902]

>>4365867
Oh, I actually think psychology is science in most cases. I also believe they sneak some bullshit under psychology in that isn't science.

[Anonymous No.4365906]

>>4365894

>is not aware that the majority of the world’s cases of AIDS have been caused largely if not wholly due to ignorance

Just like all the rest of the world’s problems, like people who think that you only get AIDS if you’re a “degenerate,” (lol moral objectivity), druggie, or a slut.

[Anonymous No.4365910]

>>4365898

That was part of the joke.

[Anonymous No.4365911]

>>4365906
morals are not subjective, you fuck

[Anonymous No.4365915]

>>4365906
also:
>ignorance
I believe you meant to say stupidity which is caused by GENETICS
fags deliberately get/spread aids anyways.

[Anonymous No.4365918]

>>4365879

Reality is always more nebulous than most people are willing to believe. In the grand scheme of things, very few things have single, necessary and sufficient determinants. There is more than just having the gene that its phenotype should be expressed. As such, if anything can be determined by genetics, it would only be in part, and not having the gene as the sole cause.

Genetics does determine behavior in part.

[Anonymous No.4365921]

>>4365911
>>4365915

>the respective entireties of these two posts

[Anonymous No.4365922]

>>4365918
No, reality is cold and hard. The nebulousness comes from our limited knowledge/ability to observe and know.

[Anonymous No.4365924]

>>4365897
They do, at least consciously. Artists get much more recognition and respect, by the average person, than scientists. Differential equations won't get me laid, but playing Für Elise incompetently will.

[Anonymous No.4365926]

>>4365924
>Artists get much more recognition
LOL NOPE

0/10, boring troll

[Anonymous No.4365928]

>>4365924

>Differential equations won't get me laid

Three words: Nerdy. Freshmen. Girls.

[Anonymous No.4365932]

>>4365928
>Nerdy girls
0/10

[Anonymous No.4365933]

>>4365922

Nebulous was the wrong word to use. How about convoluted?

[Anonymous No.4365934]

>>4365926

Einstein is just about the only scientist most people know of. In contrast, most people have at least heard of Beethoven, Michaelangelo, Charles Dickens, etc.

[Anonymous No.4365940]

>>4365926
You're delusional. I'm not saying it's respectable and right, but it's simply the truth.

[Anonymous No.4365953]

This bullshit post modernism is what liberal arts has become.
>The privileging of solid over fluid mechanics, and indeed the inability of science to deal with turbulent flow at all, she attributes to the association of fluidity with femininity. Whereas men have sex organs that protrude and become rigid, women have openings that leak menstrual blood and vaginal fluids. Although men, too, flow on occasion—when semen is emitted, for example—this aspect of their sexuality is not emphasized. It is the rigidity of the male organ that counts, not its complicity in fluid flow. These idealizations are reinscribed in mathematics, which conceives of fluids as laminated planes and other modified solid forms. In the same way that women are erased within masculinist theories and language, existing only as not-men, so fluids have been erased from science, existing only as not-solids. From this perspective it is no wonder that science has not been able to arrive at a successful model for turbulence. The problem of turbulent flow cannot be solved because the conceptions of fluids (and of women) have been formulated so as necessarily to leave unarticulated remainders.
(Hayles, N. K. (1992) “Gender encoding in fluid mechanics: masculine channels and feminine flows,” Differences: A Journal Of Feminist Cultural Studies, 4(2):16–44.)

[Anonymous No.4365957]

>>4365940
You're delusional, too. Every person with a doctorate in medicine can be considered a scientist. There's more science blogs than anything involving the arts or humanities. Every school in first world countries has a priority on science education. There are more engineering and science majors than fucking english doctoral students that contemplate suicide on an almost daily basis after grading 80 poorly written papers about some Shakespearean topic that nobody will ever read, care about, or consider rational. Enjoy living in a disease-ridden, religion-dominated, politically obstructed 12th century society with the plague, faggot pretentious humanities fucktard.

[Anonymous No.4365961]

>>4365957
>There's more science blogs than anything involving the arts or humanities.
That seems unlikely.

[Anonymous No.4365962]

>>4365957
>Every person with a doctorate in medicine can be considered a scientist.

[Anonymous No.4365966]

>>4365957
>every person with a doctorate in meidcine can be considered a scientist
wat
"A scientist in a broad sense is one engaging in a systematic activity to acquire knowledge."
If they're researching, yes they're scientist. The average doctor is not a scientist.

[Anonymous No.4365971]

>>4365957
Lots of straw-manning, assumptions, generalizations, and plain-old unfounded remarks for a science major. Don't take your virginity-fueled frustrations out on the messenger.

[Anonymous No.4365972]

>>4365966
something pertinent while looking at that definition
"Philosophy can be seen as a distinct activity, which is aimed towards a more comprehensive understanding of intangible aspects of reality and experience that cannot be physically measured."
So until gender has been physically measured, this is not science and everyone can go home.

[Neil deGrasse Tyson !hW.d63nNsI No.4365973]

>>4365957
>"Every person with a doctorate in medicine can be considered a scientist."
MEDICINE is NOT SCIENCE. IT is a service. Take this BULLSHIT out of my SCIENCE board.

[Anonymous No.4365976]

>>4365966
They did science in undergrad and grad school. It was an example.

At least doctors contribute to humanity. Anything remotely related to science does. Psychology, Sociology, and Political Science, even. It's all better than humanities/liberal arts.

[Anonymous No.4365977]

>>4365668

You're asking for the definition of the word 'gender'. If any academic has a right to speak with authority on this, it would be someone with an English degree.

Roughly speaking, science has nothing to do with this.

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.4365979]

>>4365957
>You're delusional, too. Every person with a doctorate in medicine can be considered a scientist.
HA
I've written a few poems and drew a bit in high school. Am I an artist?

[SAGE No.4365983]

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[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.4365988]

>>4365976
>It's all better than humanities/liberal arts.
This is why science and math get shunned so often. They think you have to be an emotionally-retarded autist to see any value in it.

[Anonymous No.4365993]

>>4365988
enjoy your ban

[None !3/chEMisTs No.4366012]

>>4365953
OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING??

[Anonymous No.4366054]

>>4365911
>morals are not subjective

Yes they are. Every single social rule and national law is arbitrary.

[Anonymous No.4366073]

OP, the short answer is no, it is not scientifically correct. The idea that there may be biological and sociological aspects to sex (in the general sense of the word) is correct. However, the message in the image is that gender is some sort of unrelated aspect that has nothing to do with sex. And that's what makes it incorrect.

This image, and the argument it represents, is used by transgendered people to validate their personal identity. They demand on the one hand that their own personal sexual identification is legitimate because it's how they feel. They claim sexual identity is fluid (true) and that they are simply on a different point on the line. They then demand that their sexual self-identification is the only thing that matters (false).

They at the same time claim that they can be somewhat male and somewhat female, and also that they are only male and only female, however they self-identify sexually.

[Anonymous No.4366076]

>>4366073

The truth of the matter is that gender and (what they call) sex are simply different ways of understanding the whole sexual identity of a person. Sometimes it's better to understand sex as biology. Sometimes better as culture. However, these are not just deeply intertwined, they are the same thing, viewed from different angles. They cannot be separated without losing understanding of the whole.

Transsexuals basically demand that only one aspect of their sexual identity, their self-identification, matter. They claim that all other aspects of sex are to be ignored. It's an intellectually dishonest position. Unfortunately, many people with good intentions buy into this egalitarian fiction that anybody can be anything they want to be, reinforcing these absurd ideas. They even come up with a lot of legitimate-sounding ideas in order to shame people into accepting this narrow view of sex. With pretty much certainty, if you ever come across a transgendered person, they are indeed men, even if they claim to be women, and women, even if they claim to be men.

[Anonymous No.4366099]

Men are born men and women are born women. If you think you are trapped in the wrong body, you are delusional.

[Anonymous No.4366127]

Fixed. Really, though, I'm totally fine with gays, but gender is black and white. You are a woman or you are a man. Everything else is psychology or sociology.
Yes, you do have transgendered people, and persons who have genetic defects (immunity to testosterone) that can fuck around with this, but these have specifically defined categories. Gender isn't a spectrum, it's two main categories and then specific categories in between. Also, how one identifies with him/herself (or really however he/she thinks in general) cannot effect gender. ( and yes I'm goddamn using the right word, if you doubt me you can look up "effect" as a verb)

[Anonymous No.4366139]

>>4366127
It depends on your definition.

Main Entry: gen·der
Pronunciation: \ˈjen-dər\
Function: noun
1 : sex 1
2 : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

Source: http://www.merriam-webster.com/medlineplus/gender

It's not just physical.

[Anonymous No.4366148]

>>4366099

This is why I fucking hate trannies.

Mind you, I have no problem with gays or lesbians, but trannies with their "wrong body" bullshit is so goddamn enraging.

You are who you are, and that's fucking that. If you're a 5'5" tall asian man and want to be 7'5" black man, you don't go out and get "height & race reassignment" surgery.

You fucking deal with the cards life gave you.

[Anonymous No.4366170]

>>4366139
you know that the faggots who write those definitions are not well versed in biology, genetics and neuroscience...

[Anonymous No.4366176]

>>4366170
>i should know. i'm from 4chan

[Anonymous No.4366187]

>>4366076
This.

[Anonymous No.4366205]

>>4366176
check the definition for >life< if you don't believe me

[Anonymous No.4366225]

How do I explain.

Short answer:

1. Physical Gender is male/female determined by body parts and physiological function. If you have a cock and balls that produces sperm, you are a dude.

2. The Concept of Gender/sexual orientation is a spectrum of expression determined by Chromosomes. You are a % gay and that is really determined genetically.

However, the most important part is that bottom right picture. That is wrong, and no one should EVER get the idea that it is right... or else.

Seriously, what non-genetic homosexuality implies is that an individual is not born homosexual. That it is a state of mind brought upon by the individual himself without any genetic disposition.

Which basically can be translated into by right-wing sources as...

"The faggot agenda is being pushed onto our great christian nation by the liberal gay atheist media minority machine"

Watch what you say. It may be wrong and it may be flammable. The stupidest ideas spread the quickest.

[Anonymous No.4366248]

I may be a little late to the party, and fuck yea I feel like I'm being trolled, but to everyone who says literature isn't important to society or fundamental constructs, I pose one question: How does one communicate scientific findings and ideas?

Exactly, through telekinesis.

[Anonymous No.4366260]

>>4366148
you hate people who live their lives the way they want to?

how does it feel to be 12?
they are changing a part of themselves they don't like. they aren't whining or bitching about it. they are taking steps in order to achieve their desired appearance.

[Anonymous No.4366348]

>>4366260
> they aren't whining or bitching about it

You must be shitting me.

[Anonymous No.4366376]

>>4366225
Except that some people with penises also have female organs. And genitals are not the only dimorphic elements of the body.

[Anonymous No.4366391]

>>4366376
This is an extreme rarity. The vast majority of transgendereds have no gender ambiguity other than their own self-identification.

Also, those with sexually intermediate characteristics are called intersex, not transgendered.

[Anonymous No.4367389]

How do I determine my gender?

[Anonymous No.4367777]

You're slipping /sci/, why are you talking with these children, don't you now they all live in the world of subjectivity and emotion?Facts and cold hard logic are alien things to them because they choose to, because they hate the idea that some one can prove that a certain race is inferior, that a certain individual is not fit to occupy a privileged position in society.When you are a retarded leftist unwashed hippie the best (and only) thing you can do is blame it on somebody else and if they dare prove with facts and logic that you are wrong just call them aspies or autistic while still hypocritically claiming the high moral ground.

[Anonymous No.4367782]

>>4367777
Quads cannot tell a lie.

[Anonymous No.4367788]

I was about to ask /sci/ for some help, but then I saw this thread. You guys really have it the worse when it comes to trolls.

[Anonymous No.4367792]

>>4367788
We manage...

[Anonymous No.4367810]

The picture is absolutely correct. If it were about sex, however it wouldn't be, but gender is by definition a part of your personal identity.