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4331945 No.4331945 [Reply] [Original]

Will the human mind ever be able to conceive things in four space dimensions?

>> No.4331946

No.

>> No.4331962

What if like,
dude,
What if.we...like...
what if.we.already do?
What if the fourth dimension
man, what if the fourth dimension
is like....
like, thought?

>> No.4331966

Yes.

>> No.4331968

Yes, it's called mathematics.

>> No.4331971

>>4331945
Sure, in dreams, on psychedelics, during meditation, etc.
And probably in other ways given new technologies.

>> No.4331982

>>4331962
Quit smoking weed.

>>4331946
>>4331966
Arguments please.

>>4331968
Although we can deal with spaces with n dimensions in math, they are still an abstract construct and we often do analogies with traditional 3D or 2D spaces in order to define stuff such as distance, norm, etc.

>>4331971
Having hallucinations is not seeing in 4 dimensions.

>> No.4331985

>>4331982
What is seeing in 4 dimensions?

>> No.4331999

A lot of stuff that people might think of as "4 dimensional" is actually lower dimensions, but just can't be embedded easily in 3 space. 3-manifolds aren't actually that hard to picture. Same with klein bottle, etc.
When you get to real 4d things though, its hard to imagine much besides a 4-sphere.

>> No.4332282

Better question:

How could you show that someone claiming to visualise higher dimensions wasn't lying?

>> No.4332283

>>4332282
How quickly they solve 4D spatial reasoning tests.

>> No.4332295

Ofcourse you could, if you are taught it, you can learn it.

>> No.4332314

It already conceives things in 6.

>> No.4332321
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4332321

>>4331945
>Will the human mind ever be able to conceive things in four space dimensions?
you_must_be_new_here.jpg
<<<

>> No.4332327

My mind thinks in infinite dimensions, fuck you OP.

>> No.4332328

>>4332283
Normal people are able to visualise 3D space, but they have trouble with 3D spatial reasoning, expecially when it involves rotation.

>> No.4332330

>>4332327
Unfortunately, the dimensions where people use commas correctly is not a subset of those infinite dimensions.

I am the damaged one — all my life and the damage done.

>> No.4332337

>>4332330
Sadly, we live in a subspace where aspie faggots come to /sci/ and complain about commas.

>> No.4332339

I think I can to very a limited extent, like with 3D objects moving around a 4-coordinate grid.

>> No.4332350

>>4332337
Let's not forget, either, that the subspace also contains mentally stable heterosexuals that have a very particular property: numerically, every orgasm they have, let's say, M, produces a set of points such that no other person is within a radius of <span class="math">10M^2 + 2M[/spoiler] feet of the orgasm.

>> No.4332356

A 2D Turing machine can compute any n-dimentional world. And then there is neuroplasticity.

A human brain probably would be able to make sense of 4-dimentional input.

>> No.4332647

>>4332356
Computation and comprehension are not the same things.

>> No.4332656

>>4332321
What's your point?

>> No.4332659

>>4332647
>Computation=/=Comprehension
>implying consciousness exist

>> No.4332661

Silly humans, dimensions aren't real.

>> No.4332668

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBW4S9xcTOk&feature=player_detailpage#t=158s

You're all stupid, this kid knows how it is.

>> No.4332677

 

>> No.4332683

I can concieve a cube continuously changing its shape into that of a sphere.
dim(x,y,z,t) = 4