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4311746 No.4311746 [Reply] [Original]

pen and paper or typing on a notebook during lectures?

Also how common is pic related? In our school barely anyone uses a notebook during lectures, and even then they don't really use it to take notes.

>> No.4311761

Fuck those applefags, I'm gonna use pen&paper

>and even then they don't really use it to take notes
So the rest of the class do use it for notes instead of just porn right?

>> No.4311765

It depends on the class, half my professors don't like the use of laptops.

>> No.4311768

Depends. In math courses it's really impractical to use a laptop to take notes.

>> No.4311789

Record lecture with smartphone, read a copy of the powerpoint. Minimum effort, maximum efficiency.

>> No.4311797

I've never used my laptop for notes. In my 3 years, I can count all the people I've seen taking notes on a laptop on one hand.

>> No.4311802

I don't take notes, but when I absolutely need to write something worth knowing, it's pencil and paper.

>> No.4311803

Compared to the American university presented here, is using a laptop to take notes a usual thing in European universities?

>> No.4311808

You really shouldn't take notes during classes anyway.

http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2012/01/everything-about-learning/

>> No.4311812

>>4311746
299 people watching youtube
1 person paying attention and taking notes

>> No.4311813

Laptops suck. I can write faster with pen and paper. And I don't have to worry about losing that shit if i keep it in my folder.
It takes me seconds to retrieve the notes and i can carry them wherever without worrying about power or network.

>> No.4311830

I never use a laptop in class. The only time I ever bring a laptop to campus is when I know I'll have to use a computer and don't want to try to find an open computer in the library or a computer lab.

>> No.4311867

>>4311813
>Laptops suck. I can write faster with pen and paper

Or maybe you suck at typing

>>4311808
not taking notes is not an option in the harder classes

>> No.4311875

>>4311867
>not taking notes is not an option in the harder classes
How so? You have a textbook, don't you? Is it impossible to get a copy of the professor's notes?

Unless you're going to spend even longer studying the notes than you sit in the class, there's no way this is even as good as just paying attention and thinking through what is being said, and then going through the work of recall after the class.

>> No.4311879

>>4311746
Aren't you all science fags?
How the fuck do you take notes on a compy when you need to write equations or draw chemical formulae?
Pic is in libarts class thats the only time i even find it makes sense to use a lappy

>> No.4311880

OP's pic is of film school or english lit.

>> No.4311883

I only use pen and paper, I don't even have a laptop. One would just distract me too much

>> No.4311899

>>4311867
I'm not a secretary, I'm a grad student. If notes are needed my professors will make them available.

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4311901

Not taking notes, usually sleeping or daydreaming during lectures master race here.

Also,

>Apple advertising and the guy is all like "Fuck the Steve Jobs"

Kudos to him.

>> No.4311904

>>4311899
You've never met that asshole professor who says, "MY NOTES ARE NEVER AVAILABLE TO STUDENTS?"

>> No.4311927

>>4311746
My laptop doesn't last long enough. Half with paper half with my laptop.

;_;

>> No.4311929

>>4311904
Uh, I'm not that guy, but I sure haven't. Not once.

>> No.4311932

>>4311904
because it will hurt their ego if you don't attend lectures
yeah I hate that

>> No.4311936

>>4311904
Well yes, but notes from previous years by both lecturer and other students were easy to obtain. How people think they can follow advanced lectures and actually understand shit while writing at their maximum capacity is beyond me. Also, books.

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4311951

>>4311803
Not in the Netherlands, Greece, Sweden or Belgium.
Very few if any come with a laptop to take notes.
Can't say for other countries.

Pencil and paper for me.

>> No.4311954

>>4311929
>>4311879

I had a PDEs lecturer that refused to do lecture notes. People weren't asking questions at all, because we were all just desperately copying down everything he said. On that note, I had a friend in my class that just used LaTeX to copy down the notes, and his notes tended to be better than mine. I was totes jelly.

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4311965

Why so much Apple?
Hurts my eyes.

>> No.4311974

>>4311965
Because Apple makes the best electronics in the world? I've come to realize that only poorfags complain about Apple

>> No.4311977

>>4311965
Why does that Assus have a keyboard design like a macbook? Wtf, I thought Apple sucks. Why copy computers which suck.

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4311982

pen and paper, exclusively
well, at least in civil enginering, with all those math courses, is more efficient to do it with those materials.

>> No.4311990

OH GOD THE APPLE
I WOULD BURN FROM THE APPLE IN THAT ROOM

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4311993

>>4311974
>>4311977
Oh hi guize.
Macfans I see?

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

>> No.4311994

>>4311974
>foxconn hardware
>good electronics
Pick one

>> No.4311997

>>4311995
fuck you im raging hard. how dare you use things i dont like

>> No.4311999

>>4311995
I record the lecture with my eyes and ears, take notes with my hands, and use my brain to figure out anything I'm confused about.

>> No.4312003

>>4311995
reported enjoy your iFag ban

>> No.4312010

>>4311995
>2012
>iBook
Nice going there.
Also should you get in a situation as in OP's picture, make sure to bring your Apple remote to have some fun.

>> No.4312008

>>4311993
>>4311994
I record the lecture with my iBook, take notes with my iPad and then use my iPhone to look up any thing I'm confused about

Accidentally deleted my post.

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4312015

>MIZZOU

>> No.4312021

>>4311999
Sorry you're poor

>>4312003
Mad

>>4312010
Problem?

>> No.4312025

>>4312021
>Master Race
Pen and Paper
>Decent Race
touchscreens that allow you to draw onto as notes
>Shit tier you're not even paying attention enjoy typing that long ass formula
laptop + keyboard

>> No.4312026

>>4312021
>>4312008
fuck you i hope you die faggot

>> No.4312029

>>4311999
>implying reading from a computer screen doesn't require brain functionality.

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4312034

>>4312026

>> No.4312035

>>4312025
>Master race
>using tools peasants in the dark ages utilized
Lol, no.

>> No.4312038

>>4312035
Fuck off tripfag, go back to talking to your hipster friends on facebook about how hard the class is while you're in the class.

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4312042

>>4312035

>> No.4312043

>>4312035
Peasants didn't write in the dark ages especially not with a pencil.

>> No.4312049

England here, pen and paper for notes. Very few people bring laptops to lectures on my course, when they do they're using them for facebook. I sometimes use my ipad to read the lecture slides.

>> No.4312054
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4312054

>2012
>apple anything
>not superior lenovo x220t thinkpad 16GB RAM/1TB HDD + 120GB SSD master race with SL 6.1 / Win7 dual boot
I seriously hope you poor plebs don't do this

>> No.4312056

most desks at my school are only big enough for a sheet of paper. Unless you have a netbook it'd be balancing awkardly. I'm in a math and science intensive major so few people bring laptops...in the art history class I have to take maybe 1/20 use laptops.

I know if I brought my laptop I'd have no motivation to do anything. In most of my classes I don't get cell reception, otherwise I'd be fucking around with that too.

>> No.4312063

I use pencil and paper because
a) I don't have to haul my laptop around
2) It's so much easier to draw diagrams and write mathematical symbols on paper

>> No.4312064

>>4312049
Another Englandman here, I use pen and paper for taking notes, and a netbook for when I'm sick of taking notes and just want to go on the internet.

>> No.4312079

I have yet to see a tablet with which I can draw as accurately as with a pen or pencil. Sure, the direct digitalization may offer some benefits, but for me, it really is a hassle..

The possibility to cleanly erase parts of the "sheet" is quite neat on tablets, though. Fucking professors and their "oh wait, it really is like this.."
>then wipe off half the damn blackboard

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4312102

>>4312079
>Fucking professors and their "oh wait, it really is like this.."
i know this fucking batshit insane feel

i also know the feel when you forget a pencil, and are stuck taking notes with a pen without whiteout

>> No.4312107

>>4312102
How about you ask one of your classmates for a pencil then you autistic fuck

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4312123

>>4312107
>2012
>borrowing things
>borrowing things that are laden in disease and sweat
ISHYGDDT

>> No.4312125

>>4312107
i bet you borrow pencils then shove them in your dirty whore mouth and wonder why you are constantly sick.

>> No.4312126

>>4311936 while writing at their maximum capacity

Learn to shorthand you fucking spaztard.

>> No.4312132

>>4312123
>not carrying Lysol disinfecting wipes and hand sanitizer with you all times
>2011

That's your problem

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4312133

>>4312064
We are agreed then that pen and paper is the English way to take notes, which is the correct way. I posit that the septics must have to mash words into their keyboards because they are not dexterous enough to effectively wield a pen, much like a chimpanzee or a woman.

>> No.4312134

>>4312008 Accidentally deleted my post.

You don't accidentally delete a post you trolling retarded fuck. Fuck you dickhole. Go die somewhere.

>> No.4312138

>>4312134
>implying I don't have alien hand syndrome

>> No.4312141

that pic.... all my RAGE

taking notes with pen and paper helps you remember more easily and avoids distractions

>> No.4312143

>>4312134

Also, if I knew you in real life I would seriously punch you in the kidneys until I broke your ribs.

>> No.4312192

Frenchfag here.
I always take my PC to take notes. Now, I am a business stuent, so no formulas and few diagrams. But my handwriting is really shitty, and by shitty I mean that most people have trouble reading me. Comes from being left handed, and the teacher who taught me how to write was a bitch that only liked right handed people.
Anyway, even in business studies, depending on the subject, only 10 to 30% of students use laptops. And only a small minority use apple computers.

>> No.4312199

>>4312192
Hello Muhammed. Thank you for weighing in on the subject.

>> No.4312222

>>4312141
yeah it's also easier to write functions and derivates. You don't need character map

>> No.4312224

>>4312199
>mfw I'm actually arabic
Don't worry bro, I eat pork and drink alcohol and shit.

>> No.4312231

Actually I don't like taking notes by hand, on the other side, it is much easier for me to write mathemathical notation by hand....

>> No.4312260

Pen and paper all the way.

My notes are always a series of scrawls, doodles and scratched out sections, all lovingly created with the worst handwriting in the universe. I wouldn't trade that in for the sterility of a laptop for the life of me.

>> No.4312276

>>4312224
that doesn't change the fact that you're a dirty shit skin infesting a former proud white nation.

>> No.4312292

>>4312276
>proud nation
>France
Your hatred has blinded you.

>> No.4312309

using a laptop in lectures is fucking stupid for most science subejcts. You can'd draw digrams at all unless you have one with a stylus.

Most of the lecture courses in our science departments give lecture handouts anyway so everyone just annotates those.

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4312424

I use paper and pen, combined with "ancient lenguage writing" (at least that's how other people describe it) that only i can read.

>> No.4312511
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4312511

>mfw i see a million macs

>> No.4312522

>>4312511
>a mol of macs
How much does that weigh?

>> No.4312532

>>4312522
I wish i could tell you

>> No.4312533

I take notes on pen and paper, though I can see the utility in having something like a netbook or tablet with all your powerpoints and notes on it too.

Writing for me, helps me retain information. Typing, not so much.

>> No.4312546

>>4311746
this has to be fake or set up in some way. Even if a class had this many people using laptops at once (which i've never seen), there's no way that every single one would be a Mac.

>> No.4312555

>>4312546
It's a picture taken of a journalism course... I forgot what college though. Very real

>> No.4312583

>>4312546
Consider the subject of the lecture. Like previously said, it was likely a journalism course. Another possibility is that it was a lecture regarding Macs.

>> No.4313752

4th year medicine student here.

I'm using a HP TouchSmart TM2 for all the writing I do, ever. Being able to write on the monitor with a stylus is so fucking sweet, especially when you couple it with Onenote; I'll never go back to paper ever again.

>> No.4313767

Most of the student in my university take notes on pen and paper. My notetakers all use pen and paper. People who are using laptops are the ones who generally dont pay attention to the lectures but are there because they take roll in my university.

>> No.4313779

>>4312555
>I forgot what college though
Looks like Mizzou

>> No.4313782

Mathfag reporting. I've yet to see anyone in any math course bring a laptop and I can understand why. For most science courses it's incredibly inefficient to be trying to take notes on a laptop. No matter how fast you type the amount of effort it'd take to organize symbols, equations and examples would be ridiculous.

The only times I've really seen people bring in their notes to class were a)Introductory Programming 1&2 which seemed logical, b)the odd non-mathematical physics course I took which was absolute shit anyway, and c)Arts courses

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4313786

I circled the other pen and paper fags, or potential pen and paper fags.

>> No.4313789

Most of my classes it would be a waste to use a laptop as most notes are equations

Though some have power points online

>> No.4313791

Laptops, HA, most of the classes I'm in the professors still use chalk

>> No.4313804

Vast majority use pen and paper here in Britain in my classes. And the lecture notes are not available, the lecture powerpoint is but they always expand upon what's on the screen.

>> No.4313822

>>4313782

Whip those equations up in Latex. PIMP STATUS.

>> No.4313826

I've never seen anybody using a notebook during lecture, if they did I'm pretty sure the professors would chew them out.

As a TA, I know I would if I saw one of my students using them.

>> No.4313827

>>4313822
Mathematicians usually spend more time drawing silly graphs rather than writing equations, and pstricks is not the best for drawing stuff quickly.

>> No.4313830

>2012
>not using a GNU/Linux netbook with a tiling windows manager + Vim + LaTeX plug-in to take math notes

>> No.4313836

Notes are taken with pen and paper.

I do however have a laptop with me that I use to scroll around in the powerpoint in case I need to re-see a slide or if the current slide the professor has up bores me.

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4313862

>MY FUCKING FACE WHEN

Feels good. I can type if I need to, I can draw or handwrite if I need to. Lots of jelly people (I especially like the Applefags who are SHOCKED to learn that my 3.5 y/o tablet netbook can do more than their fancy new iPad/MacBook combo).

Too bad it's a fucking HP and it gets hot and loud if you open more than 2 windows.

>> No.4313863

this is /sci/ so pen and paper
also, macfaggotry

>> No.4313868

>>4313862
Why dont they still make laptop/tablet combos?

>> No.4313879

>>4313868
Because they didn't know how to market them properly and the public wasn't really aware of them. They got rave reviews on tech sites, despite their flaws (my HP has a horrible screen), but most people don't know they were ever made.
It was actually what Bill Gates wanted the next step in portable computers to be, but then Jobs moseyed along and said NO THAT'S TOO PRACTICAL.

>> No.4313890

LOL at all these amerifags got tricked into buying expensive MACS LOLOLOL

>> No.4313913

>>4313868
Because it makes more money selling a macbook and an ipad.

>> No.4313970

Laptop for normal letters (MANY times faster than pen&paper, and i'm a sluggish writer with pen, i would either barely or not keep up) and Galaxy tab for math notes.

>> No.4313991

Our lecturers hand out the power point he is presenting in paper form to everyone before starting.

Taking notes just tires me out and makes it harder to listen.
I try to read the chapters (at least in maths) before, so I don't get lost in terminology.

I'm doing fine and never feel over-whelmed.

>> No.4314048

I use pen and paper, and rewrite the lecture notes+what the professor is speaking+dirty jokes as I think of them. The jokes help me recall the topics.
And while others cannot read my writing, as it is messy as fuck due to speed, I certainly can.

>> No.4314083

>>4313826
>As a TA, I know I would if I saw one of my students using them.

Why the hell would you do that?

>> No.4314648

and that 1 guy with paper will pass and the rest of them fucked

paper master race reporting in

>> No.4314660

Penultimate app on iPad