/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4268596]

Why is the theory of evolution such a controversial subject in the U.S.A.? There are other countries who are just as religious who have accepted it. Why is it just the U.S.A.?

[Anonymous No.4268601]

because creationists

they're basically the Al'Queda of the west.

only people give them credibility because they're dumb.

[Anonymous No.4268603]

>>4268601
But you can't just write off science as a lie like that. Just because it's a "theory" doesn't make it any less valid.

[Anonymous No.4268611]

>>4268603

they don't differentiate between a hypothesis and a theory.
The problem is that they don't understand science, or they expect science to used as a replacement for their religion, so they think it is "evil"

I've actually had arguments with people over it, they say "what in science says it would be wrong if I attacked you right now"
I say "what? science has nothing to do with that, it just says how things work"

they say "SCIENCE IS A FLAWED WAY OF THINKING! EVOLUTION IS WRONG! SCIENCE DOESN'T WORK!"

it's just stupidity and empty zealotry OP, sucks, but there really is no arguing with those people.

on the bright side, creationism is declining, and only exists in rural backwater areas now.

[Anonymous No.4268617]

a quote I read somewhere, I paraphrase here

"Democracy, and absolute freedom of speech, has given people the erroneous idea that just because they can say something, means that their ignorance is just as good as our knowledge"

sucks, but that's just how it is.
lack of education
prevalence of religion in the community

leads to stupid, stupid people.

[Anonymous No.4268619]

>>4268617
I don't think prevalence of religion in a community always leads to [ignorant] people. It's more like an increase in the chance that someone will be ignorant.

I think I can understand not believing something because your religion is against it. However, I don't think it's okay for said persons to go around saying what they believe is true.

[Anonymous No.4268626]

Lots of Christians. Conservative Christians, not the wishy-washy ones you have over in Europe.

[Anonymous No.4268634]

>>4268619

people's brains don't function in a way as to seek what is right, they function in a way as to prove that they are right.
It's the problem of confirmation bias. they WANT to think that science is bad, and evolution is wrong, so any argument, no matter how flimsy, they will cling to and parade as correct.

It's more out of fear that they are wrong than anything else.
They cannot fathom a world without religion, they think it would be wild and evil. So anything that goes against what is written in their little book is dragged through the street and slandered as "wrong"
science has disproved many things that they held to be true, so it is only natural that they would rebel against it.

their bible says "god created everything," If you ever have an argument with one of them, you will realize they think "because god" is a legitimate reason.

"why is this that way"
"because god is why"
"but that doesn't make sense"
"yes it does! because god!"

The point of being against science and evolution, is simply because they have a different idea of "rationalism."
It is rational to them to say "it is written here so it is true" So when somebody comes out against that, well, they must be wrong. because there is no possible way the bible is.

[Anonymous No.4268636]

>>4268596
Because the USA is a step behind in evolution.

[Anonymous No.4268648]

This is now a "religion is retarded" thread

[Anonymous No.4268649]

thankfully, I have an entire folder full of stuff like this!

[Anonymous No.4268669]

>>4268634
To expand on your post, namely that arguments aren't had to find the truth but rather dominate your opponent, a study found that liberals accept what other people tell them more easily than conservatives. While the liberals might sound like sheep, the conservatives clearly cannot accept authority. They just really don't care for the truth (they meaning a statistically significant part of conservatives, which I believe to be a statistically significant part of religious americans).

[Anonymous No.4268675]

So would everyone in this thread prefer that only experts in their respected fields run the government? Like when it's technology related, only experts can decide on it.

[Anonymous No.4268680]

>>4268675
i've actually seen people with that argument

"why can only scientists say what is scientifically correct huh?!"

someone responed, "yeah, just like how can surgeons be the only ones to do surgery" being facetious, of course.

but then they came back with, "yeah, I know! it's so stupid!"

*major sigh*

[Anonymous No.4268681]

awhoops, sorry about the delay. family business.
back to dump!

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[Anonymous No.4268686]

>>4268680
Yeah, I don't really get that. Why would scientists lie in the first place? There's nothing to gain.

[Anonymous No.4268689]

>>4268686
when a scientist submits a claim, it has to be given with substantial evidence, and a way to redo the experiments so that it can be proved by the scientific community.

It is literally impossible to lie, and not be caught, in the scientific community.

something called "peer review"
that's why claims about faster than light neutrinos aren't automatically being accepted as true. that would be fucking stupid to do before somebody else can duplicate those results

also, that's why religion is fucking stupid.
because they automatically accept stuff as true, because "it says so right here"

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[Anonymous No.4268694]

>>4268596
It is simple OP.
When you take a persons eyes, they use hearing to guide them, when you take away their hearing, they use smell to guide them, when you take away smell you have touch, when you lose touch you have but one step left. Taste.
And when you use your tongue to find your way, you will often eat and spew out shit.

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>>4268696
Source for that? Seen it posted thousands of times, never found a source.

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[Anonymous No.4268700]

>>4268697
actually I just saved it from /b/

seems like it would be accurate, what with the amount of scientists the catholic regime had put to death.

[Anonymous No.4268702]

This sums up why there is controversy around evolution

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[Anonymous No.4268709]

*cough* creationism is retarded *cough*

[Anonymous No.4268711]

I don't understand why people care?\

[Anonymous No.4268713]

>>4268689
>It is literally impossible to lie, and not be caught, in the scientific community.
>
>something called "peer review"


this is not always true and you should know this

especially in areas like psychology

[Anonymous No.4268718]

>>4268711

when people start trying to tell other people what they can, and cannot due, and when they try and destroy scientific evidence and reason by undermining the systems they are built on. Such as trying to get creationism into science education. We all suffer, and an entire generation is made ignorant.

It impedes progress, it causes death, pain and suffering, and the effort put into fighting against fundamentalist retardation could very well be used much better in other places.

[Anonymous No.4268721]

>>4268713
>psychology
>science

pick one

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[Anonymous No.4268725]

>>4268713
even in psychology, if you claim something, you better have evidence to back it the fuck up.

and other psychologists will test that evidence, and see if the claims stand up.

Peer Review is a very powerful tool for weeding out what is true and what is not.

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[Anonymous No.4268727]

>>4268718

that's bullshit, name one school in the US that has banned the teaching of evolution?


So what if some schools "teach" creationism? You can't condemn blind obedience to illogical authority on one hand and then whine because students are exposed to something illogical., If free thought is so beneficial then people will be able to see through the bullshit, and if it's not well then it just confirms that most people are stupid.

also lol at creationism killing people.

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[Anonymous No.4268731]

>>4268727
creationism hinder scientific study of things that could help people.
thousands have died, because research on new therapies that could have helped them, were held up by creationists.
And evolution is not banned, because people fight against creationists who would do so. They shouldn't have to, it wastes time and money.

as well for creationism being taught. I conveniently have a pic for that.

[Anonymous No.4268734]

>>4268596
>Why is the theory of evolution such a controversial subject in the U.S.A.?
Among intelligent people, it's not.
The real question is, why is there such a disconnect between academia and real scientific research and the general public in America?

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>>4268731

name a specific example of scientific research being help up by creationists. Keep in mind that the number of creationists nationally are small in number and the number in the scientific community, especially in the areas of research where such mindsets would be an issue are close to non existent. They don't have the voting power to hold up scientific progress.

I think the bigger issue is your simply butthurt because people believe things you don't like.

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[Anonymous No.4268748]

>>4268744

stem cell research

politicians who believe creationism, and do not believe in evolution are proportionally higher than the general public.

stem cell research, while it could help millions, is held up, and was even made illegal before, because "all embryos have souls, you can't use them to research therapies"

that's just off the top of my head.
millions of people.
because of creationism.

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[Anonymous No.4268753]

I lol at this one frequently.

I think I have another that can relate to it, ill post it next.

so many lulz

[Anonymous No.4268754]

ha, here it is.
butthurt religionfags?
or is your tiny brains to small to understand this?

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[Anonymous No.4268759]

>>4268709

artsy version of this one

[Anonymous No.4268761]

>>4268748

>stem cells
Nope, stem cell research is only a relatively recent technology and major research has only been possible in the past 10-15 years well AFTER creationists power as a voting block, and even at that only oppose stem cells obtained through abortion.

Which I also oppose not on religious grounds but on the moral grounds of the slippery slope cannibalizing human life for the benefit of the wealthy(those that can afford healthcare)

So now that we've proven your wrong on that point please cite another example.

This shouldn't be hard.

[Anonymous No.4268764]

not really anti religion
but atheist apocalypse is nice too.

[Anonymous No.4268774]

>>4268761
development of vaccines uses evolutionary knowledge, creationists want evolution to not be taught, therefore, they are often proponents of the anti-vaccine movement.

space exploration, creationist politicians lobby against funding space agencies because "what's the point, there are no other planets that can support life, we don't need another one"

they hinder psychological study, by saying "humans did not come from apes"
any research tying human behavior to ape behavior has been vilified

biology, by stating humans are related to apes, creationists have since lobbied for cutting of funding to institutions that support this claim.

>if we didn't have to deal with this shit, more could be done in those fields.
fuck creationists

[Anonymous No.4268775]

Pretty sure the current generation of teenagers will do away with creationism, if not religion as a whole.

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[Anonymous No.4268778]

>>4268746
That's a false comparison, everyone knows that egyptian and greek gods were a race of alien parasites that took humans as hosts and used advanced technology to enslave the human race, transporting them across the galaxy through the stargate.

[Anonymous No.4268780]

>>4268775
not the current generation. too many midwest fundies still, indoctrinating their kids.

maybe in like 4 or 5 generations it will be gone though.

[Anonymous No.4268781]

>>4268778

lulz

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[Anonymous No.4268785]

I'm not a christian

But every thor's day I sacrifice a goat.

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[Anonymous No.4268791]

christians

why u no at least follow your religion!?

[Anonymous No.4268792]

>>4268774

How does creationist opposition to evolution hinder researchers,presumably who already believe in evolution, from finding vaccines. Also please source your claim that the majority of creationists both oppose and hinder development of vaccines. Remember once again creationists are small in number if you can accuse them of hindering vaccines by not getting them then I can reasonably argue that they're also to blame for hindering American microbreweries and vegetarians are hindering the production of beef.


Also show the stats demonstrating creationists negative effect on space exploration?(keep in mind America was vastly more not less religious at the height of human manned space exploration).

Also I need sources that show that creationists beliefs are hinder psychologist's research.

What you're basically talking about is magic.

Creationists believe X and their negative thoughts are harming my world. You might as well accuse them of witchcraft.

[Anonymous No.4268793]

[Anonymous No.4268795]

I said already there are a proportionally high amount of creationists in politics.
then argued that this causes them to lobby against some research.

I also said, that creationists do not support things built on evolutionary evidence, hence their support of the anti vaccine movement. and their support of cutting funding from evolutionary scientists.

it doesn't HAPPEN, because not everyone in congress is fucktarded. But not for the sake of them trying.

[Anonymous No.4268797]

dammit. this post
>>4268795

is in response to your post
>>4268792

[Anonymous No.4268800]

What atheist want you to think - Atheism is the belief that there is no God as proven by science.

What is really going on - Atheism is the belief that the bible is stupid.

What atheists want you to believe - Atheism is the faith held by scientists and intelligent thinkers

What is really going on - Atheism is the faith held by edgy teenagers and people with unresolved childhood issues.

What atheists want you to believe - If you are smart you will believe in atheism

What is really going on - By claiming to be an atheist, atheist think they look smart

What atheists want you to believe - All religion has been disproven by science

What is really going on - The bible is full of plot holes.

[Anonymous No.4268802]

>>4268792
listen buddy, I can hardly understand what you're saying.
but the anti-vaccine movement isn't the same as "hindering vaccine development"

that other guy didn't even say it was

wtf are you smoking

[Anonymous No.4268805]

>>4268800

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[Anonymous No.4268811]

>>4268795

No you claimed that they had a negative EFFECT not a negative attitude. Now to go further I'll also point out that the majority of scientific progress in the past 200 years occurred when their was MORE creationists, and even your recent claim about space exploration is BS since the religious America of Kennedy's time firmly believed in space exploration.

Just quit kidding yourself.

Your butthurt because they exist not because you can objectively find any mass negative effect of their existence.

[Anonymous No.4268814]

>>4268811

okay, I pointed out that they hinder education and certain scientific research

I pointed out, that their meddling causes resources that could be spent on research to go toward fighting against them

I pointed out that their high volume in congress, causes fights for scientific funding to be much more difficult than it should be.

I'm done arguing with you.
you say i'm just butthurt, yeah, I don't like that there are creationists.
But saying that's the only reason I speak out against them is ridiculous.

Maybe look at yourself, and examine why you are so opposed to believing that creationists have had a negative effect?

but i'm done.

I guess it's true, "if you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people"

[Anonymous No.4268816]

>>4268802

he stated

>development of vaccines uses evolutionary knowledge, creationists want evolution to not be taught, therefore, they are often proponents of the anti-vaccine movement.

And in either sense he's wrong.

Vaccines are big pharma money and whether or not a handful of believers in x creed oppose or even the whole nation nobody is going to hinder Corporate cash flow.

So they're not hurting vaccines

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[Anonymous No.4268820]

>>4268816
well, that makes sense.

lol but it's still funny how creationists use evolutionary study to improve their own lives.

too bad, already posted that pic about christians being hypocrites.

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[Anonymous No.4268823]

>>4268814

>I pointed out that they hinder education and certain scientific research

no you STATED that and then failed to provide any evidence or even a logical explanation for how they do this.

They're not the majority.

The can't effect the Scientific community since they're virtually absent from it.

They're certainly not hurting corporate research.

And when their numbers where higher certain areas of science where BETTER funded.

So once again it boils down to the fact that your butthurt.

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>>4268820

Mhe the world is made of hypocrites.

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[Anonymous No.4268829]

Creationism does sometimes annoy me...

but I remember this and start smiling again

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[Anonymous No.4268835]

so many people thought they were going to be raptured

just goes to show, how little they know about their own religion

[Anonymous No.4268836]

anyway, to finish this off

DUMP COMPLETE

[Anonymous No.4268837]

>>4268808
They are nearly all the arguments that satanists were using in the late 90s. Like Satanism, Atheism is really just Anti-Christianism, its not a doctrine of belief but rather an opposition to a doctrine of belief. Ultimately its about pissing off mommy and daddy, not about a revolution in spirituality.

[Anonymous No.4268842]

Because Americans, especially religious Americans are arrogant as fuck.

[Anonymous No.4268843]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_evolution#Consequences

[Anonymous No.4268847]

>>4268837

atheism is the lack of belief in any deity, not just the christian deities.

satanism sure, I can see as anti-christianity, but atheism? no, it's not anti anything, it's just a lack of something

[LeftNut No.4268848]

>Lots of Christians. Conservative Christians, not the wishy-washy ones you have over in Europe.

By "wishy-washy" Christians in Europe you mean people that can't call themselves sane and deny something that is so fact based as science, correct?

[Anonymous No.4268856]

>>4268847

atheism as it lies on a printed page in a dictionary is simply not believing in God/gods, however Atheism as it is practiced by the majority of self identified Atheists is a culture of anti-Christian circle jerking, which is cool if that's what they like to do, but they shouldn't lie to themselves.

[Anonymous No.4268862]

>>4268856
hm, well some people may be like that.
but I imagine that would just be kids rebelling against their parents religion or some crap.

real athiests, such as Richard Dawkins, or Bertrand Russell though, simply reject all religion as false.

[Anonymous No.4268867]

>>4268847
>atheism is the lack of belief in any deity, not just the christian deities.
But it only uses christian writings as evidence, just like satanism.
It points to all the negative things that Christianity (and to a lesser extent its Judaic predecessor) has done as a rationale for its existence, just like satanism.
It points to the impossible demands a literal interpretation of the bible makes on believers, just like satanism.
It offers very basic experimental proof "I prayed for shit, nothing happened" and "If god is good why to bad things happen to good people?" as evidence for the moral correctness of its position, just like satanism.
It's primarily followed by males in their late teens and early twenties, lead by a figure who has become a demagogue of the movement (Richard Dawkins), just like satanism (Anton Sandler LaVey).

In fact, MOST of the images ITT could easily be made and posted by a satanist ten years ago with little or no modification.

TLDR; Atheism is satanism rebadged.

[LeftNut No.4268876]

>>4268867
Atheism couldn't be further away from satanism, We're against Satanist too! As well as ALL religious nonsense. I recommend you actually listen to an atheist speak, Go to youtube and search Christopher Hitchens, or Richard Dawkins. PLEASE.

We don't believe in the boogy man (which is also a product of the religious)
We don't believe in myths or religious tall-tales.
We don't believe in made up Gods.

[Anonymous No.4268888]

>>4268862

>Richard Dawkins

Richard Dawkins is liberal hipster number 0. He's made a lucrative career out of giving his fellow cultists (not atheist but followers of the cult of Dawkins) routine blowsjobs with mo0uths full of anti-Christian sentiment(in recent years he's moved on to doing the same to Islam.

Not that I think he shouldn't be free to do that, but don't tell me a man that says not a single good thing came out of a cultural practice that has been present in every human society on the planet since man began is a rational objective thinker.

[Anonymous No.4268892]

>>4268876
All that post proves is that you know nothing about satanism(surprise surprise, an atheist knows nothing about any religion except Christianity).
Again, all of that could be said by a satanist, and what is offered by satanism/atheism is exactly the same, freedom from religion enforced morality.

And the ultimate purpose to both satanism and atheism? To sell a book, The god delusion (Dawkins) or the Satanic bible (LaVey)

[Anonymous No.4268897]

>>4268892
you know... atheism existed long before richard dawkins did.

>>4268888
as for you, yeah, I can see that richard dawkins might seem like kind of a dick at times. although, it did get his message across, that religion is an intolerable institution and should not be respected.

[Anonymous No.4268903]

>>4268897

>that religion is an intolerable institution and should not be respected.

Which is the position of most practicing atheists which is why they can't be taken seriously as objective speakers of truth. They have an agenda.

And most people will reject rational thought since it is presented in the context of "atheism" by Atheists who obviously have agenda of destroying something that these people value, which ultimately harms rational thought, but at least Dawkins gets to sell a few books to some fellow hipsters.

[Anonymous No.4268907]

>>4268903

atheism is a result of rational thought, not the other way around.

you seem to be implying that atheists cannot be rational, because they're atheists

[Anonymous No.4268909]

>>4268897
>atheism existed long before richard dawkins did.
As a position, yes, as a movement, not really. Satanism has supposedly existed for thousands of years, but nobody ran around yelling "I am a satanist and I have arguments" until the late 80s, then it took of during the 90s, reaching its peak in the early 00s.

Atheism has existed for hundreds of years, but nobady ran around yelling "I am an atheist and I have arguments" until the late 90s, then it took off in the 00s, and I believe it has reached its peak in the early 10s.

So many of these alternative religions follow the same pattern, neo-paganism, wiccanism, ameri-buddism, the list goes on. People questioning their faith (not a bad thing) band together around the loudest voice and convert an old idea into a new doctrine. Eventually the religious rebellion subsides to reveal yet another doctrine of faith to be questioned.

Along the way, somebody makes a bunch of money selling books.

[Anonymous No.4268916]

>>4268907

No Dawkins and his missionaries seem to think that rational thought results from Atheism rather than the other way around, hence why Dawkins devotes his life to spreading Atheism rather than reason,problem solving and science and allowing society to progress from there.

[Anonymous No.4268918]

>>4268909

yeah I don't know how accurate that is.
for "new ideas" sure, it makes sense

but I became an atheist before I even knew who richard dawkins was.

and he's not even the most outspoken atheist ever.

Epicurus, back in freaking ancient Greece spoke out more against religion than he did.

[Anonymous No.4268927]

>>4268918
People dont tell me to search epicurus on youtube, or to by epicurus' books any more than satanists told me to research Milton or Dante. The man behind the curtain here is Dawkins, just like LaVey was not the first nor the only prominent satanist (KISS really kick started it as a movement), Dawkins is not the first, nor the only prominent Atheist.

There will be another religious awakening in a decade or so as the ten year olds now grow to become edgy twenty somethings and try to outdo you. Agnosticism looks like its ready to pop, Deism has potential, some other existentialist paradigm I can't see yet is probable.

[ZERO !!Bfg7MXZ93gR No.4268945]

>>4268916
>strawmaning dawkins

Ok. Also you seem to be butthurt that a lot of western atheists choose to bash the most popular and prevalent religion in the west. Poor bullied christians right?

[Anonymous No.4268963]

>>4268945

So champions of reason have no obligation to be consistent.

Ok.

Also berating individuals is a wonderful to demonstrate the benevolent rationality of your position more so if you single out one group because surly the pressure of having a common enemy will fracture that groups ideological foundation not draw them together in common opposition to an outside threat.

I guess that type of Ironclad reasoning ability is required to be a disciple of Dawkins.

[LeftNut No.4268979]

>>4268892
I was raised muslim then became atheist. I've also read and studied the Bible.
LaVeyan Satanism is a philosophy, they are atheist that regard "Satan" as a symbol of man inherent nature. Theist Satanist actually worship devil.
Though, many Atheist have sold many books, It's ultimate purpose isn't to be controversial and make money. Religion is nonsense, and primitive. The more educated people become the more Atheist there will be

[Anonymous No.4268987]

>>4268681

You do realize that you could put up a picture of Christians helping out the needy and write 'Religion', and show the picture of an atomic bomb to say 'Science'? The point being that you can nitpick whatever you want to make a group look bad, and as illogical as religion may be, the focus should be on whether people, as a whole, act decently. For some, religion does the trick. For others, science does the trick. Extremists will rise from shitty countries, regardless if religion is prevalent or not, and both groups can create douches.

[Anonymous No.4268989]

>>4268945
Actually my butt is completely hurt free, I'm merely pointing out the parallels between Atheism and Satanism. I am not really an anything so I dont care.

Ironically, the very same processes by which Atheists and satanist developed their arguments is the exact same process that I develop my anti-atheist/satanist arguments.

Its very easy to be anti-something, particularly when dealing with articles of faith, but "Christianity is stupid, become an atheist", to which any question of "why?" is easily answered, eventually turns into "become an atheist" at which point the question of "why?" becomes much more uncomfortable.

By refusing to become 'pro-theist' the anti-atheist can ignore the typical anti-christian arguments and instead only consider the pro-atheist arguments, which, as yet another doctrine of faith, is full of holes, just like every single one of its predecessors (the errors of which atheists attest to readily).

The Ricky Gervais picture actually highlights this >>4268756, Gervais says "I dont have to prove God exists, you have to prove he doesn't" To which I say "i refuse to even attempt such a task so please convince me of your views and I will join your cause"

This is the same cycle I observed with Satanism and have been informed of with neo-paganism (which was before my time). The antitheses opposes the theses, the two duel until eventually the syntheses emerges and becomes the new theses.

The Judeo-Christian theses was the word of God is all that matters, the neo-pagan antitheses was nature is all that is important, the synthesis became God is nature.

This thesis was then matched by the God is a cunt antitheses of satanism, which lead to the life is cruel synthesis.

This theses has now been matched by the Science says god is untrue antitheses of the atheists, it seems to me already that the synthesis of this will be that God is science.

[Anonymous No.4268994]

>>4268979
>>4268979

This is anecdotal, but when I was in highschool (4 years ago), the only atheists that I knew were completely and utterly retarded.

Disregarding deities doesn't make you a genius. Especially when you have many 'new athiests' running around calling out people on the 'flying spaghetti monster' and turning every decent conversation into a damn 'LOL xD yoo still believe in primitive gods lol? what about thor!' stitfest.

The point is to not miss the point of either. If you're an atheist to spite religious people then you should really rethink your position. If you're an atheist and you're evangelical in trying to 'convert' religious people to the right side, try to remember that most religious people live very, very regular lives that are probably identical to yours, with the exception of theological position. And if you think that political matters appealing to the religious will change if you are evangelical, I promise you that it is not. People will be religious no matter what. And by religious, I mean act religiously. Whether it's about UFO's, or the 'Judeo-Christian God', or Chemtrails, etc., people won't quit. It's literally in our blood to believe, and to stick to our guns, and that isn't always a bad thing. Why am I arguing about it? Because I really have nothing better to do.

We would all be better off reading some Joseph Campbell. He really puts things into perspective.

[Anonymous No.4268995]

>>4268994

it will not* grammer

[Anonymous No.4268999]

trips means that EK and Harriet are resurrected

[Anonymous No.4269005]

You know what sucks?

Religious people are obviously wrong, and atheists are obviously right.

And yet, most religious people are actually fun to hang out with, and not a fucking drag.

And most atheists are really, really fucking annoying.

[LeftNut No.4269021]

>>4268994
Most of those people you're talking about lack the mental capacity to even begin to understand what they're going on about. They're the morons of tomorrow.

> I mean act religiously. Whether it's about UFO's, or the 'Judeo-Christian God', or Chemtrails, etc., people won't quit.

You're using the word religious where it shouldn't be. I know it's in our biology to believe something "faithishly" but religion takes full advantage of that. I am convinced that with religion and mystic mindsets minimized Rational thinking will flourish more than ever in human history. After all that is inherited through our evolution. It helped humans survive thousands of years ago but we are living in a completely different world now, a more privileged world where it is sometimes very misplaced.

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>>4269005

What a clusterfuck of a post.

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>>4268596
Dunno. Chance. Contingency and path dependence.