/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4263540]

you know its true

[Anonymous No.4263546]

Mathematics makes you God-tier at not getting laid

[Anonymous No.4263549]

ITT:Tiers at not getting laid.

[Anonymous No.4263561]

>Computer Science
>Mid tier

MAH NIGGA

[Anonymous No.4263563]

>>4263549
>medicine
>not getting laid

[Anonymous No.4263564]

>architecture, not top tier at least

[Anonymous No.4263566]

>>4263564
Architecture is faglevel. True men are civil engineers.

Btw computer science should be god tier too

[Anonymous No.4263567]

>>4263564
more like no sleep tier

[Anonymous No.4263570]

>God-tier
>chemistry
>Any analyst job I want
>$10 hourly starting

[Anonymous No.4263572]

>>4263566
>implying i want all my buildings to look like bridges or dams

[Anonymous No.4263573]

>>4263572
Any serious building (See skyscrapper) is done with an engineer.

[Anonymous No.4263576]

>>4263573
>implying they don't work together to compliment each other

[Anonymous No.4263578]

>>4263576
Civil engineers are macho man
Interior designers are complete homosexual fags

Architects stay in the middle

[Anonymous No.4263581]

o lol when I could count from 1 to 3 I thought it was God!!!

[Anonymous No.4263582]

I make a bunch of money being an engineer... Astronomy is shit tier. Brain surgeon/any surgeon didn't make the list? ZOMG

[Anonymous No.4263585]

>>4263582
>I make a bunch of money being an engineer... Astronomy is shit tier. Brain surgeon/any surgeon didn't make the list? ZOMG

Engineer = god-creator-tier

[Anonymous No.4263597]

Environmental Science- Conservation and Resource Management.

Eh. Basically life sciences + econ. So mid-low.

[Anonymous No.4263599]

Medfag here

Please don't mind me, i'll enjoy making your monthly salary within a week.
Bitches be 'mirin my white gown.
Stay jelly, nerds.

[Anonymous No.4263603]

>>4263599
Computer science guy here. I make 3x or 4x your salary for sure so shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.4263609]

>>4263603

I have some bad news for you anon, it seems like you may be infected with madjellyitis.
I suggest you check it out, maybe get a butthurtitis shot as well.

[Anonymous No.4263610]

>>4263603
>implying you're not an undergrad
>implying anyone in these threads is beyond undergrad
>my major is better than your major by default

[Anonymous No.4263612]

>>4263599
Engineer here. Don't mind me I'll be retiring by the time you receive your first paycheck. Enjoy touching a bunch of disgusting sick people.

[Anonymous No.4263613]

>>4263610
How much can a medic make? 100k? 110k top?

I'm making over 350k here. In case you wonder, I own a hosting company.

So if you are going to fucking brag at least get a decent job in which you don't have to suck your boss cock.

[Anonymous No.4263616]

>medicine a god tier hard science
lolno, medicine is the application of mathematics, chemistry, and biology.
Applied sciences should not be in god tier. They have a low scope of time relevance.

[Anonymous No.4263617]

>>4263613
>>4263612

4.5/10

[Anonymous No.4263618]

>Archaeology
>Shit tier

Perhaps in a shitty American college whose professors have to travel overseas to reach anything that isn't Native American bone fragments and where "old house from the 1700s" is considered Archaeology. Everywhere else in the world Archaeology is Top Tier at least.

[Anonymous No.4263619]

>Applied sciences should not be in god tier. They have a low scope of time relevance.
Defend that statement. Applied sciences do not necessarily have "a low scope of time relevance", in fact, medicine is older than physics or chemistry.

[Anonymous No.4263620]

>Hey anon, what do you do?
Oh, i'm a doctor.
>Oh wow! You must save lives all day every day! You are a hero!


>Hey anon! What do you do?
Oh, i just play around with computers all day.
>lol

I have feel the assravaged autists in denial about shit a mountain on me.
Also,
>ITT:undergrads in denial

[Anonymous No.4263621]

>>4263617
>He thinks I'm trolling.
Count the years until you can specialize in something (i.e. start recieving money even close to an engineers salary (never mind bonuses)). Now consider how much a Petro-E would have by that time- given his company also pays for most of his expenses (especially when consulting)
Deal. With. It. Faggot.

[Anonymous No.4263623]

>>4263618

>Perhaps in shitty America where you have to travel overseas to reach anything that isn't Native American bone fragments and where "old house from the 1700s" is considered Archaeology, and therefore the only career prospects an Archaeologist has are college faculty.

Fixed that for you.

[Anonymous No.4263624]

>>4263599
>>4263582

doctors & surgeons are just fuckin mechanics. mid tier at best.

[Anonymous No.4263625]

>>4263620
While you are in the hospital touching people with contagious diseases, I'm working (mostly) from my house while I drink a beer and make more money than you.

I'm sorry anon but some people have to work by following instructions (medics) and suck at life, while other people work by thinking and creating new stuff (Computer Science).

[Anonymous No.4263626]

>>4263621

Now i understand why /sci/ is the easiest board to troll.

[Anonymous No.4263627]

>>4263624
They make a fuckton of money you asspained physicist/chemfag. They will stay in God-tier, Top-tier is the lowest possible position for them on any tier-list.

[Anonymous No.4263628]

>>4263627
>judging a subject based on income
ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.4263630]

Medics are the fags that I'll throw them a couple of bucks to check my cock rash.

Physics/Chemestry/Engineering/CS is true master race. If it weren't for us you would be all living in 1600

[Anonymous No.4263631]

>>4263540
Fixed that for you.

[Anonymous No.4263633]

>>4263627

money has nothing to do with it, dumbass. the richest people in the world are almost all businessmen.

the rest of us chem/physics/engineerfags are all just making their money for them.

[Anonymous No.4263636]

>>4263628
>judging a subject based purely on opinion
ISHYDGIHJBDJ NO

[Anonymous No.4263637]

>>4263631
Not even close. Most of Mathematics can't be applied- it's like art, even engineering has a larger "scope of time relevance" than Math.

>>4263633
The most prominent degree earned by fortune 500 company CEO's is engineering.

[Anonymous No.4263638]

>>4263633
>money has nothing to do with it, dumbass. the richest people in the world are almost all businessmen.


Actually a big proportion of richest people is Computer Science guys (Steve jobs who is now dead, bill gates, steve ballmer, oracle guy, hp guy, google guys, etc)

[Anonymous No.4263639]

>>4263633

MBA = Money = Happiness
Everything Else = Knowledge = Happiness

To each his own.

[Anonymous No.4263640]

>>4263638

Most of them dropped out. Also most of them didn't really know much, they just got a brilliant idea and the rest took care of itself for them.

[Anonymous No.4263643]

>>4263637
Haha, you know nothing about math. At all.
Math's purpose is not to have immediate application, but it is applicable in nearly everything.
200 year old Discrete Mathematics alone has had substantial influence in our current technology.
For example, without Discrete Mathematics, computers would not exist. MRI machines would not exist.
..well I'm not going to list it all.
I'm not a Math major and even I know math is on its own tier above everything else.

You don't know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.4263644]

>>4263637

>Most of Mathematics can't be applied

Is that a joke? Nearly every subject in mathematics has application areas.

>>4263639

PhD in mathematics = knowledge + money = happiness.

[Anonymous No.4263645]

geology is top tier? WTF? lol wrong.

[Anonymous No.4263646]

>>4263638

www.forbes.com/wealth/billionaires/list

there are some CSfags in there, but the vast majority are business owners.

[Anonymous No.4263647]

Conclusion

Chemistry Physics Engineering CS is true god-tier-master-race

Anything else ranges from good to shit.

[Anonymous No.4263650]

>>4263647
That's a Math minor right there as well, if not closing on a Math major.
I'm a CS student and I only have to take 1 class outside of what's requires to get a math minor.

[Anonymous No.4263652]

>>4263650
Yes, forgot to include math there too. My apologies.

[Anonymous No.4263661]

>>4263643
Let me explain something to you.

Let's say you're the supreme God-Emperor of Earth, an asteroid is about to hit our planet. The databases of the generation ship on its way to the closest habitable planet only has enough room too store all the knowledge in two of the subjects (including all knowledge that is used by those disciplines but are technically part of another subject) on that list. Which would you choose?

If you choose anything other than medicine and engineering, then congratulations- you're responsible for our species going extinct.

[Anonymous No.4263666]

>>4263661
>Medicine and Engineering
Remove mathematics from those.

Whoops, you don't have medicine or engineering anymore.

[Anonymous No.4263667]

>Get an English/Writing major
>do professional writing and editing for a business firm
>start at 65k a year with only UP to go

"Shit Tier" you say?

[Anonymous No.4263669]

ITT: Rectally hemorrhaging math autists

You are just jelly at medfags for their godlike social status and salary. Enjoy writing equations on windows faggots.

[Anonymous No.4263670]

>>4263667
Yes.

[Anonymous No.4263672]

>>4263666
Mathfags confirmed for not being able to read

>>4263661
>including all knowledge that is used by those disciplines but are technically part of another subject

>>4263666
>666
Confirmed for satanic misanthrope.

[Anonymous No.4263675]

>>4263670
Explain how when this job ears 65-100k yearly and I don't have to bust my balls to do it?

[Anonymous No.4263676]

>>4263661
Another situation.
All information and memory except for one subject is going to be erased from current civilization. No one will remember a thing other than basic survival instincts and that one subject.

Which subject do you choose to keep?

If you choose anything other than math, you will not be able to wholly apply the subjects, nor progress them.
However if you choose math, you can derive ALL other sciences by mixing it with a little experimentation.

Math is the base of everything in science.

[Anonymous No.4263677]

I majored in structural engineering but work at a movie studio in the San Fernando Valley. Just keep in mind that 99% of the entertainment industry is run by people with worthless degrees.

I worked as an engineer for a few years after school, hated it. Fucking goofball nerds, Gooks, Curry-Niggers and Eastern Europeans. I am so much happier now.

Two of the big tv networks are run by foreign language majors.

CBS Les Moonves Spanish
ABC Paul Lee Portuguese/Russian

The only thing an engineering degree is good for is as back up. You can always be a Matlab/C code monkey, as I have been several times between jobs.

Here are some real life engineering students, note the hot Gook girls in the front row. You will be surrounded by these types, worse if you are ECE or CS.

[Anonymous No.4263690]

>>4263677
>curry-niggers
I lol'd, then I felt back.
I'm in CS. At least half of the people at my school are Indian.

[Anonymous No.4263695]

>>4263690
>then I felt bad.
fixed.
Though I really don't feel that bad.

[Anonymous No.4263706]

>>4263676
>If you choose anything other than math, you will not be able to wholly apply the subjects, nor progress them.
Why not? Did humans suddenly lose all of their innate intuition?
>However if you choose math, you can derive ALL other sciences by mixing it with a little experimentation.
Oh I see, so they're not brain dead, but apparently they only capable of thinking if they have an extensive knowledge of mathematical formalism and not much else.

I'd still rather have the vast amount of -even if only-qualitative knowledge that engineering has so we could get a head start into rebuilding civilization rather than Mathematics for which we don't even have paper to write it down on.

[Anonymous No.4263710]

>>4263540
>womens studies

[Anonymous No.4263716]

I think pharmacy should be god tier. Not based on academic merit but simply managing to convince the world its worth paying them £30 an hour to stick labels on boxes

[Anonymous No.4263718]

>>4263677
>Borderline dropout that got a shifty job after graduation.
>Associates all of engineering including God-tier jobs like Aerospace, weapons design, Chemical manufacturing etc. with his crappy job "at a movie studio".
>Values people based on how they look.

Stay classy.

[Anonymous No.4263719]

>>4263710
One time when I was handing in a report for one of my electives, I had to go into the Anthropology building. I saw a sign advertising 'Feminist Research'.

Although it's probably just researching the role of women in modern society, I can't help but wonder if they're researching crazy science in an attempt to further castrate men in western society.

[Anonymous No.4263898]

>>4263718
>Values people based on how they look.

Are you a Gook or a Curry-Nigger?

[Anonymous No.4263910]

>>4263677

DEM ASIANS!

Also, CS should be God Tier.

[Anonymous No.4263934]

>>4263669
>You are just jelly at medfags for their godlike social status and salary.

Enjoy becoming an underpaid hospital drone.

[Anonymous No.4264212]

Just a quick note, I went to UCLA and graduated in 2006 as an ECE major. Out of the top ten starting salaries for engineers only one was for an actual engineering job. The rest were hired as analyst/consulting trainees by banking/investment firms.

Also the people that got these jobs did not have the highest grades, instead they were the best looking and most sociable. I work for Caltrans, not a bad job, but unglamorous.

[Anonymous No.4264240]

>>4263677

That has to be a University of California school.

[Richard Feynmann !Hwop/gspA. No.4264248]

so many posters truckling under the demands of capitalist hegemony :\

[Anonymous No.4264257]

>>4264248

Blah, blah, cryptic bullshit blah.

[Anonymous No.4264278]

>>4264248
Well that's one way to illustrate your jellyness.

[Richard Feynmann !Hwop/gspA. No.4264291]

>>4264257

i mean that judging field of study based on future salary is a stunningly sad and empty way to live one's life

they need to do a remake of a christmas carol for unhappy stem majors

>>4264278

if not living to worship the dollar is being jelly, consider me preserved

[Anonymous No.4264300]

>>4264240
>That has to be a University of California school.

probably Irvine.

[Anonymous No.4264304]

>hurr I'm a pretentious hipster who doesn't give a fuck about salary

Spoken like a true English major who won't have a job anyway and is crying every night over how poor he is.

[Anonymous No.4264306]

>>4264304
was directed at >>4264291

[Anonymous No.4264313]

>>4264304

This guy knows what's up.

Besides, as a poor-as-fuck student, I fail to see what won't be improved in my life by having a good salary. It's not a deciding factor, but it helps keep my ass studying.

[Anonymous No.4264315]

>>4264291

>i mean that judging field of study based on future salary is a stunningly sad and empty way to live one's life
Here's what you /lit/fags don't understand- a degree is for making money, almost everything can be studied in your free time (the exception being a few STEM fields that require expensive equipment).

>they need to do a remake of a christmas carol for unhappy stem majors
wat.

>if not living to worship the dollar is being jelly, consider me preserved
Will do.

[Anonymous No.4264325]

>Law at Top Tier
>Philosophy at Shit Tier
>As if those weren't the same field of study
ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.4264326]

So much hate in this thread.
Do what you love.

[Anonymous No.4264334]

>>4264326

Is it 1967?

[Anonymous No.4264342]

>>4264326
Right, because you can't be do what you love, be passionate about it, make a fuckton of money from it and hate other people for not acknowledging the superiority of your field at the same time.
>underachiever logic

[Anonymous No.4264348]

>>4264326

Some people don't have a trust fund to live off of.

[Richard Feynmann !Hwop/gspA. No.4264361]

if i can sell my labor for a higher price than other people it proves my field of study is better than theirs

love of learning? what's that

[Anonymous No.4264366]

>>4264348
well, the people that matter do. not having family money is like being the one-legged guy in a marathon, sooner or later you're going to get left behind.

[Anonymous No.4264381]

These tiers depend on what school you attended. Certainly an econ degree from Stanford is going to open more doors than an engineering degree from an unknown school.

[Anonymous No.4264383]

>>4264361

But the individual can value their learning all they want. That's not the issue. You're presuming that simply because some enjoy their fields because they make more money also don't enjoy the challenge or intellectualism involved.

Besides, isn't the value of one's labor, intellectual and otherwise, what's reflected by their pay? Thus, earning a high pay means you've either gone through a large amount of education or the job is extremely physical and/or dangerous or a mixture of all these things.

[Anonymous No.4264387]

Heres a way of thinking about it. If the world ended tomorrow, what professions would still be useful? If everything was destroyed and man survived in some bunkers, the useful subjects would be:
Medicine, Maths, Sciences/Engineering. That is it

Society would not need Law, Business Studies, Economics, IT, English, Music, Politics or any other second tier subjects

[Anonymous No.4264388]

>>4264361
>if i can sell my labor for a higher price than other people it proves my field of study is better than theirs
No, it means it is more economically valuable than other peoples field of study (i.e. your field isn't saturated by idiots because it actually requires intelligence to earn a degree in the field). But I guess we can't expect a sheltered English major to understand that.

>love of learning? what's that
It's that thing most /sci/entists have, that thing they practice when their studying for their degree and in other subjects in their free time.

[Anonymous No.4264392]

>>4264388

Nailed it.

I enjoy the field... it's just nice to know that my knowledge is valued so highly because I work my ass off learning shit while others around me enjoy their "college experience" (whatever that means).

[Richard Feynmann !Hwop/gspA. No.4264393]

>>4264383

>Besides, isn't the value of one's labor, intellectual and otherwise, what's reflected by their pay?

ideally, yes; realistically, almost never

[Anonymous No.4264399]

>Society would not need Law, Business Studies, Economics, IT, English, Music, Politics or any other second tier subjects

Without these things we would become savages.

[Anonymous No.4264405]

>>4264393

Kinda seems like the ideal case is happening in the god tier... just sayin'.

[Anonymous No.4264409]

>>4264399

Without all of them, we become savages.

[Anonymous No.4264410]

>>4264387
>Heres a way of thinking about it. If the world ended tomorrow, what professions would still be useful?
math and pure sciences would be useless, staying alive is a completely unrelated set of practical skills

[Anonymous No.4264412]

>>4264366
>well, the people that matter do. not having family money is like being the one-legged guy in a marathon, sooner or later you're going to get left behind.
Well the one-legged guy can still laugh at the two legged guy that ran the wrong way.

[Anonymous No.4264417]

>>4264387

I think you're valuing the wrong fields a little.

[Richard Feynmann !Hwop/gspA. No.4264418]

>>4264388

"i am more intelligent because my field is more economically valuable because i am more intelligent"

it is in the interest of the military industrial complex for you to buy into this circular reasoning -- you're so smart, please keep designing us weapons!

[Anonymous No.4264427]

>>4264412

Until he kills himself from the crushing depression that even though he's running, one-legged, in the right direction, the dicks running in the other way will always be more successful.

Martyrdom is for the religious and teenagers. Some of us are just trying do what they love while being realistic about financial matters.

[Anonymous No.4264432]

>>4264418

You are bringing in way too much /pol/ for this just being a dick measuring contest amongst smartass college students.

Calm down, you're scaring the fish.

[Anonymous No.4264438]

>>4264418
What circular reasoning? I never claimed to be:
>more intelligent
...than anyone in this thread or anyone in Arts department for that matter.
I said it requires more intelligence to earn a degree in Engineering/Science/Math, because it does (entrance requirements are higher compared to other majors, drop out rates are higher etc.) which means there are fewer people in the world that are available to do the job, which is why it has larger economic value compared to easier fields.

[Richard Feynmann !Hwop/gspA. No.4264447]

>>4264438

how are other fields "easier"? i'd like to see you write a halfway decent poem

[Anonymous No.4264453]

ITT: People without jobs bragging about their salary

[Anonymous No.4264457]

>>4264447

There's no metric. I can't do your hardest work, but you can't do mine.

This does not mean that they are equal, it just means the work is different. You've successfully proven that poetry is not the same as science.

[Richard Feynmann !Hwop/gspA. No.4264463]

>>4264457

if theres no metric for comparing them what are you doing saying one is easier than the other

[Anonymous No.4264467]

>>4264453

Did you figure that out by the fact that the image contains college majors and that those posting in this thread would be people still in college meaning that they are studying but as yet lack the aptitude to actually gain employment in that field so they're using projections to gauge their future salaries?

Because that's how I understood it.

[Anonymous No.4264473]

>>4264447
Eh, Med student here lurkin this thread for a while, i thought i'd pipe in.

Half decent according to whom?

I took a few poetry classes in undergrad. It was a joke, an easy A. All I had to do was figure out the style they were aiming for (ekphrastic, stream of consciousness, or any of the various structural styles) and then write something, ANYTHING on the paper.

For instance, I want to write a villanelle (or however you spell it) about trash bags. So long as it includes those 5 triplets and closing quatrain, no fucking prof would dare call the work unsubstantial.

Why? Because if I was obvious about my bullshitting they would call it clever because of how I parodied the method. If it seemed sincere (it never was, i wrote a poem about my mom having breast cancer, she never had it... the class was in tears, i shit you not) the would fucking shower it with praise.

Ask your lit prof, they will be hard pressed to give you some formal rubric or standard (outside of the style they ask you to write in) to judge your work.

Poetry is among the easiest of the humanitites

[Anonymous No.4264475]

>>4264463

I didn't.

[Anonymous No.4264478]

>>4264447
And I'd like to see you write one too. No, better yet I'd everyone in your class to write me a decent one, but I doubt all of them be able to deliver.
Now if you ask everyone in an engineering class to solve this PDE...
It's easier to get through an arts degree, which is why everyone and their mother has BA nowadays.

This is difference between the fields, STEM fields are more rigorous and it's harder to earn a degree, still I never meant to imply that there aren't excellent writers in English department who will probably be a lot more successful then me.

[Anonymous No.4264500]

Waiting for poem to change my perspective...

[Anonymous No.4264511]

>ctrl + v "Geoscience"
>0 results

;_;

[Anonymous No.4264512]

>*I'd like everyone
>*them would be able to deliver.
>Also add the missing commas.
fixed

[Anonymous No.4264523]

Astrophysics undergrad here, >>4264473 speaks truth.
I live with an English student, and one day happened to glance at his work...
It actually made me rage. I was fucking upset. I respect the guy, but what he had written was fucking appalling. I sincerely wrote better stuff when I was fucking about in GCSE English.
And the (sad?) thing is he's getting good marks. And is probably on track for a first.

I used to have some respect for most degrees... Maybe physics has made me somewhat jaded/elitist.

[Anonymous No.4264526]

>>4264500
Most of us are emotionless apsies, why on earth would you think we'd appreciate poetry?

[Anonymous No.4264529]

>>4263540

My uncle got a certificate in engineering (a fucking certificate) and then an MBA. He's not smart at all. I would almost say he's stupid, but not quite. He's just a good bullshitter and can talk the talk. Makes over a mil a year being an executive for some contracting company or some shit. I jelly.
If anything it taught me that it doesn't matter how smart you are, it's how well you can deal with people and how well you can convince them you're worth it. And those kinds of people aren't on /sci/ comparing fairy tale wages and trying to one-up strangers they'll never meet.

inb4coolstorybro

[Anonymous No.4264541]

>>4264447
sweet just what the human race needs, more poems. have 100,000 gold billions bro. you are a credit to our species.

[Anonymous No.4264547]

>>4264387
wouldn't need music? bra, people would go insane having no music. people would pay musicians tons to perform for them. it'd be like, the only luxury available to them.

[Anonymous No.4264548]

>>4264526

Because, apparently, it's as worthwhile as what we do.

So, judging that this tripfag enjoys the fruits of the labor of STEM-educated folks and thinks it's not difficult to achieve, I should be open-minded about what these world-changing pieces existing in a field that I've largely been told to ignore.

[Richard Feynmann !Hwop/gspA. No.4264551]

>>4264523

well really it might be a case of him being a bad writer or it might be the case that you as an astrophysicist aren't familiar enough with literature to evaluate it properly

i mean if i started critiquing your astrophuysics you wouldn't take it seriously, why should your critique of his writing be taken seriously

[Richard Feynmann !Hwop/gspA. No.4264553]

>>4264541

a whole bakery's worth of neckbread

[Anonymous No.4264570]

>>4264553
>being a butthurt poet
>2012

go put your trenchcoat on and storm out of a coffee shop bro

[Anonymous No.4264575]

>>4264529
>it doesn't matter how smart you are, it's how well you can deal with people and how well you can convince them you're worth it.
If you can't communicate with/influence (or can't learn to) people effectively then you're not smart, your uncle is probably a lot more intelligent than you, you just haven't realized it yet.

Interpersonal, Linguistic and verbal intelligence is still intelligence.
Just because you have more Logical intelligence (good with math and logic) etc. doesn't mean your all round more intelligent. You aspies always make this mistake.

>And those kinds of people aren't on /sci/ comparing fairy tale wages and trying to one-up strangers they'll never meet.
Don't make that mistake either, I know some very rich/successful people (as in- ChemE who owns his factory and makes 30k/month) irl that browses /sci/, basically introduced me in fact. They might post less than college students because they have more shit going on, but that doesn't mean they never get bored.

[Anonymous No.4264617]

Medfag here again,

>>4264551
>i mean if i started critiquing your astrophuysics you wouldn't take it seriously, why should your critique of his writing be taken seriously

Is there some "objective" metric other than grammar, spelling, and style that you can measure poetry by?

This is where your argument doesn't seem to hold much weight to me.

His roomie could easily point out the mathematical errors in his astrophysics homework. AND HE WOULD BE JUSTIFIED BY ANYONE WHO HAS KNOWLEDGE IN THE SUBJECT TO DO SO.

This is why mathematics and science get so much more respect from me: there's not as much room for bullshit. Sure, there are examples of bullshit in science, but the method actually self-corrects to eliminate the bullshit over time.

Namely, science uses quantifiable data and mathematics are subject to a rigorous number of proofs to support their conclusions.

What is literature's metric? Other than spelling, grammar, and style, it seems to be ENTIRELY OPINION.

This is why I don't have as much respect for the humanities.

[Richard Feynmann !Hwop/gspA. No.4264670]

>>4264617

that is why the study of literature is infinitely more complex though

no rubrics to hide behind, no rigorous proofs to tell you the right answer -- it's up to you to distinguish between "bullshit" and the genuine article -- it is a game full of pitfalls and danger

it is, yes, why it may be easier for lackluster pupils to "bullshit" in the humanities, but it is also why it is possible to achieve greater things in literature than science coudl ever aspire to

[Anonymous No.4264679]

>>4264670
Cool novel bro, made me feel things for a bit and think

Those guys who cure life destroying diseases are OK

[Richard Feynmann !Hwop/gspA. No.4264688]

>>4264679

when have you ever seen anyone on /sci/ interested in curing diseases? didn't you see the anons saying that the borders of india should be closed off and the whole population allowed to die of tuberculosis?

[Anonymous No.4264741]

>>4264688
Hey, grownups have to make difficult decisions. Doesn't mean we won't give India a cure (which we had before they fucked it up by not finishing their courses) if we had one.

[Anonymous No.4264760]

Medfag here again
>>4264670
>that is why the study of literature is infinitely more complex though

I mean call me a pragmatist, but how exactly is Poetry 205 leaving the world qualitatively better than before? I mean, you could say something like "it teaches us lessons about life" or "helps explain our situation in life". I don't necessarily think these aren't noble pursuits, but they seem muddied up by the unmistakable orgy of nonsensical postmodernism.

>no rubrics to hide behind, no rigorous proofs to tell you the right answer -- it's up to you to distinguish between "bullshit" and the genuine article -- it is a game full of pitfalls and danger

This is just a very poetic way of saying "Nobody knows what makes a poem good or bad". I have so much more respect for people who actually *try* to do that. The Philosophy of Asthetics at least attempts to figure out why some dresses are prettier than others. I have an explanation: it's a tower of bullshit inhabited by the shittees who, if they had to call each other on their bullshit, would watch the very ground under their feet erode as their own bullshit plummeted away.

>it is, yes, why it may be easier for lackluster pupils to "bullshit" in the humanities, but it is also why it is possible to achieve greater things in literature than science coudl ever aspire to

Like WHAT?
What does literature do for the human race that science hasn't done better?
I'm not saying that art and literature aren't worthwhile. However, I do think these "studies" are completely overblown, primarily by the fact that the trend seems to be built upon the collective opinion of THE SAME PEOPLE WHO BUY INTO THEIR OWN BULLSHIT.

[Anonymous No.4264771]

>>4264760

It's just a flat-earth society. Instead of being interested in reality as it IS, you are interested in fabrication and escapist prose to somehow justify the fact that you aren't actually contributing any of the energy you sucked out of this planet's many resources to making said planet BETTER.

Science has landed people on the moon and eradicated smallpox. Science cuts out your appendix when it's inflamed and provides you an LCD screen to project your blobs of modern art to the rest of your sheepish humanties students.

Poetry is *nothing* compared to science.

[Anonymous No.4264777]

Yeah how about humanities, social sciences and natural sciences are all good for different things, you should know as much as possible about all of them, and you can all shut the fuck up now.

[Anonymous No.4264796]

/thread

also, really /sci/, why is this image on the front page nearly every single time I visit

[Anonymous No.4264810]

>>4264777
>eah how about humanities, social sciences and natural sciences are all good for different things
>all
Riiiight, feminist studies has been a commendable field for humanity, surely we'd still be hunter-gatherers without it.

[Anonymous No.4264822]

>>4264810
Right, and I can claim alternate therapies are a real boon to science too. There are bullshit worthless degrees pretending to be humanities and there are bullshit worthless degrees pretending to be science. What's your problem exactly?

[Anonymous No.4264837]

Oh and by the way, "all" referred to all three of the aforementioned categories, not every single possible random shitty field you can think up, in case that wasn't clear for some reason.

[Anonymous No.4264847]

>>4264796
because everyone on 4chan has a gargantuan complex of one form or another so status is everywhere

engineering student btw.

[­­ No.4264864]

AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME THEN YOU'RE A FUCKING FOREVER ALONE WEEABO FAGGOT!

[Anonymous No.4264872]

>>4264822
>>4264837
>What's your problem exactly?
Humanities and social science faculties consists mostly of money grabbing whores giving "bullshit worthless degrees" to people expecting that their degree will get them a decent job or that they NEED it to enter the workforce. The result is thousands of "students" going to college each year to drink their parents money away for a few years.

I'm not in a position to change any of that, but I sure as hell can express my disgust about it.

[Aquila !!gAQL6Rry0wi No.4264909]

>this thread
>everyday
>nothing but ad hominem

[Anonymous No.4264952]

>Implying people pursuing libral art degrees aren't the reason why BS majors can be payed so well.

I always wondered if the anons of /sci/ would be willing to take a hit in pay if it meant everyone else decided that math and science degrees should be the rule. When it comes to higher education. Would you all really be so open to that situation?

[Anonymous No.4264962]

Womens Studies should be much higher, at least top tier.
They have done a lot for womens rights and scientific research in general.

[Anonymous No.4264981]

>>4264952
The fact that I don't have much respect for the humanities *and* generally agree with the tier list as presented does not logically lead to me *wanting* everyone to get science degrees.

For a number of reasons:
1. They can't. The content is actually difficult enough to prevent most people from pursuing it.
2. Just because I think scientific studies are superior doesn't lead me to assume that everyone SHOULD become a scientist against their will.
3. The world needs workers as well as intellectuals.
4. The value of one's work doesn't have to be a matter of supply and demand. There are far more physicians than there are PA's, but physicians are paid more? Why? Because the work physicians do is worth more and requires more training and expertise. A meritocracy SHOULD be in place, but the current free-market system does not account for it.

[Anonymous No.4265006]

Geology student here, and I've got to say, putting geology in top tier is pretty generous. While it certainly can be a top tier or better science, in general practice most geologists are fucking retarded, and barely even understand their own field, much less those upon which it is based (math/physics/chemistry).

[Anonymous No.4265021]

Does anyone have that picture of the meeting between Einstein, Curie, Planck, Lorentz, etc. handy? I saved it but lost it. Would really appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4265022]

>>4265006

This is based more on pay grade than intellectual elitism I

[Anonymous No.4265025]

Does anyone have that picture of the meeting between Einstein, Curie, Planck, Lorentz, Heisenberg, Schordinger etc. handy? The one where they're all sitting and Einstein is in the middle/front row? I saved it but lost it. Would really appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4265030]

What about linguistics?

It's like the mathematics of soft sciences. Definitely higher than Womens studies and music, FFS.