/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4225513]

Why is it exactly that people don't understand the borderline between psychology and psychiatry? I mean, look, one is a shitty soft science for losers and the other one is a medical profession. The latter, in no way, is associated with "talking" and "sharing" and "shrinking". That's "psychologist". You talk, he talk, he can't prescribe medicine BECAUSE HE'S NOT A FUCKING DOCTOR.

I say this because I work at a psychiatrist office and the poor guy must listen to retards who think he is also, or is, a shrink.

[Anonymous No.4225527]

my psychiatrist does talk therapy

[Anonymous No.4225526]

Psychiatrists do shrink work too.

[Anonymous No.4225534]

Remember that episode where the Doctor talks about how a race had devolved over time?

Yeah.

[Anonymous No.4225540]

>>4225526
Why would they unless there's some serious dough for it in them? Most of psychiatrist work is trial and miss. I got my bipolar disorder medicine this way, I did not talk to the guy for longer than thirty minutes in each session.

[Anonymous No.4225551]

Funny then that CBT is the most effective treatment for OCD and many other anxiety disorders. Obviously you have no clue what you're talking about. Good look in a neuroscience or psychiatry journal and tell me what the most common byline is that you see, it won't be MD.

People who've studied the brain for 4 years undergrad, 6 years PhD, and then 2 years post-doc can't prescribe drugs because the AMA has a lock down on congress and uses it to make all doctors salaries average 10-50 average American's salaries (depending on specialty).

[Anonymous No.4225575]

>>4225551
That's just ONE example. Can a psychologist help people with REAL mental diseases, like maniac depression? OCD is some faggy disease man.

Let me aks you somethin bro. I have, for one, maniac depression. How can a psychologist help me, with TALKING to me?

[Anonymous No.4225579]

>>4225575
>maniac depression

[Anonymous No.4225587]

>>4225579
Whatever, bipolar disorder. I'm in my good mood right now. Have been since I've been taking REAL PILLS.

[Anonymous No.4225615]

Hello from /lit/.

A psychoanalyst is a real psychiatrist capable of prescribing medicine yet therapy tends to revolve more around "talking" and "shrinking" and "sharing" as you put it. You ought to read more /sci/.

[Anonymous No.4225620]

>>4225575
Yes. I suffer from schizophrenia and CBT from a psychologist was most useful in alleviating my symptoms. More useful than the meds I get from my psychiatrist, even.

[Anonymous No.4225631]

>>4225620
>schizophrenia
>not taking meds

Going to post Louis Wain cats till you go crazy. Hope you kill yourself.

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[Anonymous No.4225647]

>>4225631
You're charming. If you spent a bit more time concentrating on English in school you would have noticed I said "get", not "got", implying that I am still on anti-psychotic medication. Aripiprazole to be precise. Also, I've not had serious psychotic symptoms for months.

Bye from /lit/.

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>>4225642

[Anonymous No.4225655]

>>4225631
>>4225636
>>4225640
>>4225645
>>4225642

I fucking appreciate the hell out of this.

[Anonymous No.4225656]

>>4225647
Look through my eyes before you go.

[Anonymous No.4225661]

>>4225656
Oh, the voices are coming and they're telling me to... KILL RICHARD DAWKINS. DOWN WITH SCIENCE. BURN THE PHYSICS DEPARTMENT AT MY UNIVERSITY.

[Anonymous No.4225662]

>>4225655
np, bro.

[Anonymous No.4225674]

Have this framed on my wall.

[Anonymous No.4225677]

>>4225674
You have dreadful taste.

[Anonymous No.4225692]

>>4225677
Whatever. Life's too good when I'm on Topiramate. While it's not, it sucks.

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[Anonymous No.4225708]

>>4225692
You really seems to be butthurt even while on drugs

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[Anonymous No.4225726]

>>4225708
Yes. You see, there's no god, there' no point in life, there's no point in living, there's no point in procreating, there's no point in nothing. Pills keep me going and I'm afraid there's no point in that too so why am I alive and breathing while I know it's pointless, that I don't know.

[Anonymous No.4225736]

relevant

[Anonymous No.4225745]

>>4225726
Schizo here, not the person you quoted. Though I suspect that you're the person who just said they hope that I kill myself I'll still say this much. You're talking out your arse. Even with a serious mental illness things can and do improve. Regardless of whether life is pointless, it is not necessarily futile - you can enjoy yourself.

Here, have another trippy cat even though I find them an insult to aesthetics.

[Anonymous No.4225769]

>>4225745
>you can enjoy yourself
There's no point in that.
Circle of pointlessness.
I wish there was a god.
I'm _NOT_ saying there is, fuck "G"/"g"od.
I'm saying I wish there was an afterlife where you could spend your life in infinite happiness. The same life on something like Topiramate.

[Anonymous No.4225799]

>>4225769
Well, clearly you think there is some purpose to enjoyment, otherwise you wouldn't be taking drugs that induce what seems to be a euphoric effect and you wouldn't lust after an eternal blissful state. If you wish to be emo and wallow in your misery though, fine by me. I of course have come into contact with a few manic depressives in my time and the ones who cope best are the ones who make some semblance of an attempt at being optimistic.

[Anonymous No.4225816]

>studying psychology
>majoring in cognitive psychology
>a field trying to figure out how the human brain works
>a field trying to understand the biological/cognitive/mechanical processes behind what makes us human
>have to deal with dumbfuck assfucked opinions like the OP everytime I mention I study psychology

why /sci/ hate brain

[Anonymous No.4225826]

>>4225799
I'm not emo it's just facts you discover by spending years alone by yourself. Maybe that's why Abraham invented religion. I heard he was a pretty reclusive fellow. There's _NOTHING_THERE_TO_BE_OPTIMISTIC_"ABOUT".

[Anonymous No.4225844]

>Had serious psychological illness
>Attention seeking, histrionic
>Liked art
>Loved cats
>Took walks at night
>Spent a shitlot of time alone
>Kept a journal, which made no sense

Louis Wain was tumblr before tumblr was tumblr

[Anonymous No.4225845]

>>4225826
>I'm not emo
>NOTHING_THERE_TO_BE_OPTIMISTIC_"ABOUT".

Giving up on the old suicide watch. You're a miserable git and there's no fixing it.

[Anonymous No.4225848]

>>4225816
Maybe you should have chosen a major like neurology. It's soft science and retarded shit, but most people wouldn't know that. Just like people think IT is hard computer stuff.

[Anonymous No.4225859]

>>4225848
Has a point.

>>4225816
If you really wanted to understand how brains work why not look at the molecular reactions that happen at the neurotransmitters and what causes the release/formation of certain chemical gradients of dopamine and etc.

That's Neurology. Cognitive Psychology is asinine bullshit that doesn't even require analysis or deserve respect.

[Anonymous No.4225864]

>>4225845
"In life there are certain sores which, like a kind of canker, slowly erode the soul in solitude. [...] What relationship could exist between the lives of the fools and healthy rabble who were well, who slept well, who performed the sexual act well, who had never felt the wings of death on their face every moment—what relationship could exist between them and one like me who has arrived at the end of his rope and who knows that he will pass away gradually and tragically? [...] Finally I realized that I was a demi-god and that I was beyond all the low, petty desires of mankind. I felt the eternal flux within me. What is eternity? Eternity for me was playing hide-and-seek with that whore on the banks of the Suren river; it was a momentary closing of my eyes when I hid my head in her lap."

[OP No.4225879]

>>4225864
I feel like shit already. Where's my mom with my pills. DAMN MAN LIFE IS POINT_LESS.

[Anonymous No.4225882]

>>4225826

I'm not trying to win you over but I've had happy and not so happy times in my life, so I've reflected a bit on this. If you need something to make you even care about my words, I live with my mom and brother and at one time she was clinically depressed at home for a whole winter and being bipolar our life was hell. When she was hospitalized I spent a couple of months being the adult in the house for my brother at the same time I was going through my first exams period on university. (All is fine now)

My opinion: You are right, there is nothing to be optimistic about. It is all overall pointless. Luckily, all of this pointless stuff is fun to do. Our brain works in such a way that it actually feels good to do dumb unnecessary pointless things. The best way to live life, it sounds to me, is letting yourself go and just experience stuff. Fear, love, friendship, all that cheesy shit. This shit doesn't matter. Have fun exploiting it. (protip: its what people you hate like jocks and sluts do 24/7)

Unfortunately the brain isn't perfect and if you are depressed all these words will sound hollow and you wouldn't be able to enjoy these things even if you tried.

[Anonymous No.4225887]

>>4225826

>Is schizophrenic
>Referencing Abraham

Funny you should say that.
There's a certain line of thought in psychology which posits that a lot of prophets did suffer from some kind of mental defect (for lack of a better term), like a schizotypical disorder or e.g. temporal lobe epilepsy.

In fact, check out the Book of Ezekiel, and tell me that's not a straight up account of schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.4225892]

>>4225859

But I actually care about the implications this has on human society. I don't want to blindly acquire information, I'm curious as to how this affects human behavior and what social variables display what results. It's also cool that this information can be implemented to simplify and better the way society deals with itself.

You misunderstood me. I don't want to know, I want to understand. Is this bad?

[Anonymous No.4225898]

>>4225887

>Book of Ezekiel
>schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.4225904]

>>4225887
He's the bipolar chap, I'm the schizophrenic (the one who briefly attempted to cheer him up) and have always been an atheist.

That said, I suppose there isn't that much difference in some cases. I suffer from serious bouts of depression and occasional psychosis. Bipolar people get that plus mania.

[OP No.4225912]

>>4225882
Quite the contrary, I'm an egoistic person and I think exploiting life is what low-class people of south American societies do by dancing around barrel fires. I think a good, yet pointless anyway, life is a productive life.

[Anonymous No.4225921]

>>4225904

Something I've wanted know about MD:

Do you get psychotic episodes during your depressed stages too, or just purely in your manic ones? Or does it just depend on the individual?

[Anonymous No.4225923]

>>4225912

So in your opinion a good life and a happy life are different, in fact opposite, things. I know nothing about you, but that is a childish opinion. I respect a productive life, but still.

As someone who thinks all is pointless why do you value the productiveness of a life, anyway? I would expect you to consider it a waste of time and effort.

[OP No.4225925]

>>4225923
I said, ego.

[Anonymous No.4225944]

>>4225925

This may be my knowledge of the english language failing me, but I don't see how being "One devoted to one's own interests and advancement; an egocentric person" makes sense of the fact that even though you think all is pointless you value productivity, even if egoistic productivity.

You think all is pointless and yet you despise dancing around barrels because it's fun. That's just being a cynic.

[Anonymous No.4225950]

Psychiatry is a bunch of pseduo scientific bullshit as well, all they do is follow whatever is in the political zeitgeist of the time, homosexuality used to be considered a mental illness in the DSM, in the future racism will be considered a mental illness, Soviet psychiatrists used to medicate whoever spoke out against the state.

Both branches are just jewish bullshit.

Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.4226030]

>>4225950

>in the future racism will be considered a mental illness
>has never heard of the Authoritarian personality

[Anonymous No.4226986]

>>4225551

Psychologists in some states can prescribe, actually. Who can and cannot prescribe is up to the state, not the federal governments.

[Anonymous No.4226990]

>>4225575

CBT is first-line therapy alone or with meds for almost every psychiatric disorder. It just happens to be especially useful in anxiety disorders like OCD which is, despite your greatest hopes, a real disorder.