/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4212344]

If locality is an illusion and solidity is an illusion and velocity is an illusion, is there anything real at all?

[Anonymous No.4212347]

Sometimes I wonder if the shit that comes out of my ass isn't just an illusion...

So I leave it in the toilet for the next person to verify.

[Anonymous No.4212368]

i fail to see how its just illusions

[Anonymous No.4212383]

Illusions aren't real now?

[Anonymous No.4213032]

>>4212368
il·lu·sion/iˈlo͞oZHən/
Noun:
A false idea or belief: "he had no illusions about her".
A deceptive appearance or impression: "the illusion of togetherness".

What don't you get about it?

[Anonymous No.4213035]

>>4213032
illusions are real though,

[Anonymous No.4213036]

Cum into your mouth.
Taste it then tell me how real it is.

[Anonymous No.4213041]

>>4213036
really gay

[Anonymous No.4213077]

Unreal is the new real and we've gone full circle.

[Anonymous No.4213083]

>>4213036
It's not. It's an illusion. What you don't seem to get is that illusions DO feel real, even when they in fact aren't.

Is this board populated by 12 year olds or what.

[Anonymous No.4213084]

If the self is an illusion, who is it fooling?

[Anonymous No.4213088]

>>4213083
It's time to stop shitposting.

[Anonymous No.4213094]

>>4213088
So stop posting.

[Anonymous No.4213100]

>>4213083
but how is a fucking illusion? and just quoting the definition of illusion isnt an explanation.

[Anonymous No.4213102]

>>4213083
unreal=real. fucktard

[Anonymous No.4213109]

>>4213100
Science tells us so. The very idea that reality around you is exactly how you perceive it is fundamentally wrong.

[Anonymous No.4213842]

>>4213109
>Science tells us
>The very idea
>reality around you
>exactly how
>fundamentally wrong
buzzphrase-telefaggot.jpg

[Anonymous No.4213848]

>>4213842
How about a real reply and not some candy-ass underage crap?

[Anonymous No.4213857]

It doesn't matter whether or not reality as real. The harsh fact is that you can't get out of it.

[Anonymous No.4213864]

>>4213857
Ofcourse you can suicide.

[Anonymous No.4213870]

>>4213864
There are no verified accounts of what happens after suicide.

[Anonymous No.4213882]

>>4213870
>hurr durr implying that someone may or may not be dead after suicide we just don't know

[Anonymous No.4213891]

>>4213870
Body stops functioning it ends.
Sorry dualist faggot you're wrong.

Also there are no verified accounts of what happen after I anally rape you but I can tell you if you want.

[Anonymous No.4213897]

What if we create our reality.

[Anonymous No.4213904]

>>4213891
But not the whole body stops functioning. Parts of the body still hangs on desperately to life. There are accounts of nails still growing after the person's buried. Is the entirety of a person composed just composed of the brain?

[Anonymous No.4213906]

>>4213882
He looks dead, but is he really

[Anonymous No.4213913]

>>4213904
Snopes.com explains the truth behind the legend. The human body begins to dehydrate after a person dies. Because the skin is so dry, it "pulls away from nails and hair." This makes it appear as though the nails and hair are growing, but in fact, it's really the opposite. The body is shrinking.

So this is just an illusion. Snopes notes that the body's unfortunate tendency to dry out is the reason funeral homes are so liberal with the moisturizer. Without it, the newly departed would appear unrecognizable well before the casket is shut. Creepy.

You're wrong.
Also Yes you are just your body which is largely controlled by the brain.

[Anonymous No.4213921]

>>4213913
>you are your body
So ideas are generated in my brain? You make no fucking sense.

[Anonymous No.4213928]

>>4213921
Oh and I suppose a super natural cartesian theatre where Ideas dance for an audience to shitty music Is a lot more appealing and makes more sense?
If you answer yes to that get the fuck off sci because you're too retarded go to /b/ or /pol/

[Anonymous No.4213934]

>>4213913
But what about taking some cells out of my brain and body and letting them thrive and reproduce on petri dishes? Are they still me after I die?

[Anonymous No.4213950]

>>4213928
Well, statistically speaking there is a fair chance. The only reason your point of view is widely accepted is because it makes more sense to humans. Which has nothing to do with how the universe is put together, which regardless of what you may think, is still a great mystery.

[Anonymous No.4213960]

>>4213950
Nope you're an idiot thanks for playing go fuck the laws of physics on some other board thanks.

[Anonymous No.4213979]

>>4213960
>mfw I study hard science
>mfw I despise people like you for having such a naive way of thinking about the universe

[Anonymous No.4213993]

Locality, solidity, and velocity are not illusory.

[Anonymous No.4213999]

>>4213993
Well they appear to be something but when you understand them in detail, you see that they're really behaving in a counter-intuitive manner. How is that not illusory?

[Anonymous No.4214107]

>>4213979
mfw I don't give a shit?
no face because I don't give a shit.

[Anonymous No.4214116]

>>4214107
Fair enough. I still think you're a wacko though.

[Anonymous No.4214564]

intreseting. tell me more

[Anonymous No.4214575]

>>4214564
>bumping /phi/ thread after two hours
Drone, I am disappoint.

[Anonymous No.4214613]

Actually, there could be some point to this. The term illusion was a bit poor chosen, but misperception would be a better one. I am very convinced that position and momentum are something created by the mind in order to be able to understand this enormously complex world. Yet all physics seems to hinge on those ideas. To truly understand the world around us, we should first think harder about what position actually is.

Wow. That was a lot for 2am.. Maybe I should just go to sleep.

[Anonymous No.4216111]

>>4214613
You are absolutely correct.

[Anonymous No.4216114]

>>4214575
How is it a /phi/ thread? Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.4216123]

>>4214575
How does it feel knowing i'm going to turn your precious little planet into raw material for the dyson sphere, bitch?

[Anonymous No.4216302]

>>4216123
>implying I didn't just use all the immense amounts of minerals and energy I got from the fungus to fast-track my own transcendence project
Maybe your workers would have worked fast enough if you had cared for their suffering.

[Anonymous No.4216312]

more info OP's image?

DAT feel

[Anonymous No.4216314]

Locality, solidity, and velocity, are not the only things, so yes, things will still be real.

If you're implying that those three are illusions, modern science hasn't heard of that yet, so anyone that says they are is very probably wrong.

[Anonymous No.4216315]

>>4216314
They are illusions ACCORDING TO modern science.

[Anonymous No.4216319]

>>4216314
Wrong, all these things are illusions. Our brain creates the impression of solidity, the passage of time, movement, and a lot of other things some scietists take for granted.

[Anonymous No.4216336]

>>4216315
>>4216319
>locality
Not an illusion. According to science.
>solidity
Not an illusion. According to science.
>velocity
Not an illusion. According to science.

Only by the strictest, most autistic interpretation of quantum mechanics do those resemble illusions, but no serious scientist is foolish enough to do so, only the worst science fans.

[Anonymous No.4216348]

>>4216319
how is solidity an illusion made by the brain? solidity is real, something is solid when the atoms are close together enough to repel other solid objects. just because its not 100% like you amused it was doesn't mean its now an illusion. and i dont get how its the brain that does it.

[Anonymous No.4216356]

and how the fuck is velocity an illusion? momentum is one of the most basic properties something can have.

[Anonymous No.4216372]

>>4216336
>autistic interpretation
lolwut

[Anonymous No.4216384]

>>4216348
100's of millions of neutrinos are currently passing through your body, without striking a single object in thier path.... yet you body is solid?

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[Anonymous No.4216387]

>>4216356
Velocity is an illusion because it's a concept wrapped around something moving with certain speed. But it's always in respect to something else. Take an isolated universe, for example, with the same rules as our own. Then put an object there. How do you tell it's velocity? You don't, because there are no reference points. So in this way, it's illusory.

[Anonymous No.4216388]

>>4216356
Movement is an illusion, read book: "the end of time"

[Anonymous No.4216410]

>>4216387
>doesn't know about reference frames
Everything you have ever said is now invalid.

>>4216388
>the end of time
Same goes to you motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.4216451]

>>4216410
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