/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4206617]

I know science is just starting and we are learning a lot and coming up with new theories all the time. What if the universe really is as simple as we think it is?

I've been thinking about the universe since I was a kid because nothing else on Earth has fascinated me more. I've finally come up with a fun idea. And I'm not high!! Go ahead, rebuke this for pothead-talk assumptions. I just want to be heard.

My idea is that there isn't such thing as a confined solar system, only that which we declare the threshold for acceptable orbiting distance. We are in a universe of solid bits of rock which may have coalesced from the elements emitted from the Big Bang. Of course we have a Kuiper Belt and Oort cloud! We probably have a Wow That's Far, It's So Far We Can't Detect It, And It Takes Absolutely Forever To Make One Whole Revolution Around The Sun cloud, and a Negligible cloud too. What you see, with regards to our Sun and every other star, is when a gravitational body grasps a hold of its surroundings, it acquires a hold of the game, wins it, and becomes a flaming hot ball sucking in everything smaller or less dense than itself, providing the rock bodies it made the necessities for life. This is no surprise why there are planets orbiting the Sun, and stars orbiting a black hole. And there's then perfect sense for a quasar. It's an entropic survival of the fittest for rocks, all of which compete for the most gravity, and eventually become stars at a gravitational threshold and black holes at a greater gravitational threshold. What the stars do is feed off smaller rocks with substantially weaker gravity. If a star gathers all of the rock from its surroundings, the outer rocks would be too far away to provide the star its required energy to maintain survival before the fuel is spent, releasing its materials.

[Anonymous No.4206620]

Think about it, as a rock accumulation gets a certain size, increasing pressure at the center overcomes the intermolecular force threshold of atoms, triggering a molten core. And what's in our tiny little planet's center core? Obviously molten rock, although nowhere near as hot as the center of the Sun. The Sun is 1.3 million times larger than Earth!

So maybe the reason Mercury has a metallic core is because it's so close to the Sun that Mercury's molten interior reacted with the phenomenal heat of the Sun. Or perhaps the Sun's gravity provides a strong bodily tide effect on Mercury, which could act as a stirrer, warming the interior of Mercury.

If any of this is true, I bet you our planet is very slowly, but surely, inching towards the Sun with every revolution. Like a very lengthy, seemingly forever, inward spiral. It makes sense that gravity eventually gets everything. Mercury should, according to my logic, be next to feed the Sun however long it takes. If black holes feed off everything, why don't stars?

It then makes sense that a vast core collided (Big Bang) and sent out all rock fragments, or today, galaxies, in opposite directions. It just has to coalesce from galaxies into greater black holes, which will take a long time and occur way far out, unless the center of the galaxy runs out of fuel. There is no such thing as dark energy or dark matter. How could there be?

The universe is simply collecting the rock it spewed out at the Big Bang through the process of gravity. Gravity; the key force; the Hungry, should never fail an endless process.

I'm interested if anyone actually fathoms this. Tell me what you think. Again, I am not high.

[Anonymous No.4206645]

Poetic, but unlikely.

captcha: theory aquials

[Anonymous No.4206649]

You have some seriously flawed conceptions of what the Big Bang is. I suggest you do some reading.
Second, you better understand that the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate and gravity can't do shit to stop it.

[Anonymous No.4206657]

>>4206649
You have to remember, our theories are just theories, nothing more. We have no evidence of it.
All I do is read about science. I like to come up with theories of my own because scientists continue to disprove one another's theories. Who knows what's true!

The reason the universe may be "expanding" is because the galaxies are moving in away from the explosion of something at a core, the fragments of rock which it ejected.

You never know, we'll never know. That's the fun of it.

[Anonymous No.4206662]

>>4206649
Humans like to think they have all the answers despite our limited technology. I wouldn't trust all of the theories circulating through our contemporary ethos. I bet you 99% of them will turn out false.

[Anonymous No.4206672]

>>4206649
You have to remember, our theories are just theories, nothing more. We have no evidence of it.
All I do is read about science. I like to come up with theories of my own because scientists continue to disprove one another's theories. Who knows what's true!

The reason the universe may be "expanding" is because the galaxies are moving away from the collision of perhaps two vast cores, the fragments of rock which it ejected.

You'll never know, we'll never know. That's the fun of it.

[Anonymous !x1aZpVg/mw No.4206674]

>>4206620

>If black holes feed off everything, why don't stars?


if the sun was replaced by a black hole, the earth would continue to orbit as normal
remember gravity is a function of mass, and the suns mass isn't increasing, if anything its decreasing; the sun burns away thousands of tonnes of matter a second

interesting theory, but your understanding of gravity needs improving

[Anonymous No.4206676]

>>4206674
>>4206674
How do we know for sure? Have we witnessed a black hole at the centre of our orbit or a body orbiting close enough so we can get virtually exact precision measurements?

[Anonymous No.4206681]

>>4206672
>>4206662
Do you even have a basic understanding of physics and astronomy? It seems apparent to me you also have no idea how science works.
Theories are built off evidence. Physicists don't go derping around making up theories on the spot without using any jumping-off points or mathematics. Am I being trolled?

[Anonymous No.4206683]

>>4206676
It's called physics, dickwad.

[Anonymous No.4206687]

>>4206681
No, I'm not trolling. Don't get defensive. My mind underwent a creative bout and I felt like sharing it. Stop getting flustered over what's right and what isn't!

[Anonymous No.4206696]

Actually, the earth is moving away from the sun.
Mercury has a solid core due to its small size.
Galaxies are racing apart from a center, the space in-between is expanding

[Anonymous No.4206708]

>>4206687

>No, I'm not trolling.

Yes you are.

>Don't get defensive.

Why are you so imposive?
Are you a Narcissist?

>My mind underwent a creative bout and I felt like sharing it.

Why did you follow your "feel"?

>Stop getting flustered over what's right and what isn't!

Why would I?

[Anonymous !x1aZpVg/mw No.4206709]

>>4206676

we havn't observed exactly that, however we can observe other things, which prove gravity is a function of mass, for instance, the moon orbiting us, other moons orbiting other planets, and so on

a black hole has a finite mass, generally the mass of the star that collapsed to form it.

we can then use the equations;

F = (GMm)/(r^2)

to show that the black hole has the same attractive force as the star it used to be

cmon man, this is basic stuff, A2 level (i think thats high school in america)

[Anonymous No.4206721]

>>4206672
>You have to remember, our theories are just theories, nothing more. We have no evidence of it.
Evidence of what? Do you even know what the words "scientific theory" mean?
Expansion of the universe is an observed phenomenon.

[Anonymous No.4206726]

>>4206696
I love discussing this stuff! I'm going to question everything you say and see if you can give an answer on the spot!
>>Earth is moving away from the Sun.
Milankovitch cycle? Numerous other factors?
>>Mercury has a solid core due to its small size.
/just/ because of its small size? What about Titan? Does it have a metal core?

[Anonymous No.4206735]

>>4206726
solid, not metal.
the densest part of a planet is its core, so it is usually metal, as that is the densest thing floating around.

Titan is far away, and hard to probe

[Anonymous No.4206737]

>>4206708
>>4206708
>>Yes you are.
No, I'm not.

>>Why are you so imposive?
Are you a Narcissist?
You're assuming I'm imposing because I'm bringing up a new idea. I am not a narcissist, I am a free thinker.

>>Why did you follow your "feel"?
Because I was happy with what I came up with.

>>Why would I?
You seem a little disturbed, to say the least.

[Anonymous No.4206740]

>>4206687

Both sides of this debate are bad

Challenging held beliefs about the world is great, but prevalence in human society does not prove or disprove something as a scientific theory. It's generally up to the person who makes the claims to posit the evidence regarding it (and by evidence, I mean more than theoretical, you gotta be willing to get out and do the measurements)

To (>>4206708) Damn son, relax, it's the fucking internet

[Anonymous No.4206742]

Everybody's fucking arrogant and can't take no for an answer. This is the doom of humanity, and it can be witnessed right here, in this thread.

[Anonymous No.4206744]

>>4206740
I'm not asserting any of it as true. I'm fascinated with what my mind can muster up before education narrows down my imaginative creativity.

[Anonymous No.4206745]

>>4206742
>implying the doom of humanity isn't furries

[Anonymous No.4206758]

>>4206742
People need to forget what they know and just start asking questions. One of the most fascinating things of the human mind is that it can piece stuff together before education strolls on in

[Anonymous No.4206759]

>education narrows down my imaginative creativity
>mfw

[Anonymous No.4206774]

I'm truely amazed how many people got defensive over this....

[Anonymous No.4206779]

>>4206758
Perhaps the earth is flat?
Perhaps we can turn lead into gold through chemical means?
Perhaps zeus gives us lightning?
Perhaps the sun is a ball of charcoal burning with aether that permeates space?

There's a reason this stuff has not become part of scientific theory.
Be humble: thousands of people have tested things, written papers that those books you read are based off of.

It is hard to get a theory accepted by people without any evidence.

Also, I can't help but smiling at the irony: You read pop science books and then come up with your "own theories" without collecting data analyzing available data. Then you come and say people are being stifled by education while putting blind faith in the books you read.

Your arrogance is both hilarious and appalling. Learn some damn humility

[Anonymous No.4206781]

>>4206774

>offends people with his collosal stupidity
>wonders why are they offended
>but he cant ever end that wonder since his stupidity wont let him
>Foverer Dumblone

[Anonymous No.4206783]

>>4206774
I'm truly amazed you're still amazed.

[Anonymous No.4206787]

>>4206774
OP just made some shit up some of it blatantly wrong and when confronted on this he protested "We have no evidence of it". OP is retarded and has no idea how science works.

[Anonymous No.4206791]

>>4206779
What harm does it do if I think for myself? Am I destroying the fabric of science?

[Anonymous No.4206792]

>>4206787
Yes! It's probably wrong! I know from the start that it's wrong!

I can't believe you guys. This is ridiculous. I just wanted to share a fun idea.

[Anonymous No.4206795]

>>4206791

The harm is when you say education stifles imagination.

[Anonymous No.4206797]

>>4206781
How are you getting offended over this?

[Anonymous No.4206799]

>>4206779
This.

Especially:
> you come and say people are being stifled by education while putting blind faith in the books you read.

irony indeed.

[Anonymous No.4206800]

>>4206795
It does a lot of times. If you didn't know you were made of atoms, what would you think?

[Anonymous No.4206804]

>>4206800
I was made of some indivisible "somethings"
maybe spheres or cubes.

[Anonymous No.4206809]

>>4206804
Good, and you would go further to try to explain that, right?

[Anonymous No.4206810]

>>4206792
>/sci/ - Fun and Math

[Anonymous No.4206811]

you folks are sickening, sorry

[Anonymous No.4206812]

>>4206809
yes, I would mathematically describe how those spheres and cubes interact, and what it "meant" to be an indivisible cube or sphere.

[Anonymous No.4206817]

>>4206812
So instead of imagining endless creative ideas, you want to solve the mystery, the fun of it all, right away? Ok, you found your answer. Now what?

[Anonymous No.4206818]

>>4206800

because the ,wasting time and reinventing the wheel, kind of imagination is really precious right guise?!

Get off your high horse of idiocy already, peasant.

[Anonymous No.4206821]

>>4206811
Yep. And on that note, I'll call it a day. Hope I didn't offend you guys too much.

[Anonymous No.4206830]

>>4206742
lol were already doomed, cant you see it? stubbornness is running rampant everywhere

[Anonymous No.4206835]

>>4206817
test it.
find its wrong.
figure out something else.

There are wrong answers in science, and there is no way to tell if you have the "right" answer or even if there is a right answer. You can find corroborating evidence to a theory.

Science isn't going to stop needing creativity anytime soon.
But you need to test theories as well as think them up.

[Anonymous No.4206840]

>>4206835
dude what HAPPENS when you find the answer tho? what do you do with yourself when its all saida nd done??

[Anonymous No.4206847]

>What if the universe really is as simple as we think it is?

We don't think it's simple at all...

[Anonymous No.4206850]

>>4206847
>lol mandelbrot set

[Anonymous No.4206852]

>>4206840

We already know that there are physical limits on how much we can know, so that is utterly impossible.

[Anonymous No.4206857]

>>4206840

Why do you believe that it has a conclusion?
Why do you believe that its conclusion doesnt have any application in different theories that arent concluded yet?

[Anonymous No.4206862]

>>4206840
You can't know you have found the right answer.

[Anonymous No.4206865]

>>4206862

You dont know that.

[Anonymous No.4206867]

>>4206857
how far are you planning to go?

[Anonymous No.4206868]

>>4206791
You are the cancer of this planet.

1) You don't know how to think properly, your reasoning skills are middle school level at best

2) Thinking bullshit, and preaching bullshit, FUCKING HURTS SOCIETY. YOU ARE THE CANCER OF THE WORLD.

[Anonymous No.4206875]

>>4206868
if you know none of it is true, why do you let it bother you? there's obviously more to it

[Anonymous No.4206886]

>>4206875
We're laughing at the stupidity of people like you

[Anonymous No.4206894]

>>4206875
Wow, your reasoning skills are much shittier then I thought.

[Anonymous No.4206895]

>>4206867

>how far are you planning to go?

Where?
Which plans?

[Anonymous No.4206898]

A good thread inevitably turned into a horrible thread.

[Anonymous No.4206903]

>>4206894

Based on what?

[Anonymous No.4206904]

>>4206895
your boundaries for knowledge. when d oyou say, "ok, that's enough, let our imagination do the rest?"

[Anonymous No.4206906]

>>4206875
I'm impressed you can use a computer.

[Anonymous No.4206908]

>>4206875
Because everyone in the world (except you of course) is scared to take a look outside our windows and think. We are shocked that someone in this day and age that someone would DARE question what has been bestowed upon us by our ancestors. You are the only one smart enough to question these beliefs (that are immutable of course). So we think you are a fool

[Anonymous No.4206911]

>>4206908
i value the stuff I know..i also value the things i make up

[Anonymous No.4206912]

>>4206898

All great ideas are eventually consumed by the power of stupidity. The question is (in this case), upon which side does the stupidity lie?

[Anonymous No.4206914]

>>4206904

>your boundaries for knowledge

Why do you believe that it exsists?

>when d oyou say, "ok, that's enough

What is exactly enouqh?

>, let our imagination do the rest?"

The rest of what?

[Anonymous No.4206924]

>>4206911
how did you learn the stuff you know?

[Anonymous No.4206927]

>>4206914
if i even have to explain myself, we do not think the same at all. i think op did a good thing

[Anonymous No.4206931]

>>4206908
>We are shocked that someone in this day and age that someone would DARE question what has been bestowed upon us by our ancestors

Implying scientist don't exist? Implying philosophers don't exist? Implying NO ONE IN THE FUCKING WORLD THINKS ABOUT SHIT?
WTF?

How fucking dumb are you? Jesus fucking christ!

[Anonymous No.4206933]

[Anonymous No.4206937]

So many lessons need to be learned from this. I hope they are as vivid and clear as they are to me.

[Anonymous No.4206941]

>>4206927

The truth is that you cant explain it as it is too illoqical to defend/explain.

[Anonymous No.4206943]

>Science
>Just starting

HOLY FUCKING SHIT ARE YOU RETARDED? Humanity has been making fucking steady progress since the dawn of time. What the fuck? Are you some kind of high-school student that has only just discovered physics or something?

What about Thales, Anaximander, Pythagoras, Anaxagoras, Hippocrates, Eudoxus, Democritus, Aristotle, Euclid and Archimedes? ARE THEY NOT FUCKING SCIENTISTS?!?!?!

OH HEAVENS YOU'RE RETARDED GTFO MY /sci/ AND GTFO MY INTERNET

[Anonymous No.4206944]

>>4206908
>confuses science with religion

[Anonymous No.4206945]

>>4206941
no, to me it makes perfect sense. im not going to, figuratively, explain to a 4 year old child. they wont havea clue where im coming from

[Anonymous No.4206947]

>>4206937

>So many lessons need to be learned from this

From what?
Which lessons?
Why is it a "need"?

>I hope they are as vivid and clear as they are to me.

For who/what do you hope that?

[Anonymous No.4206952]

>>4206945
What are you trying to explain?
Op can't take pop sic and start creating dumb theories and treat them as equals to real theories

[Anonymous No.4206954]

>>4206908
You bring retardation to a whole new level. Words like, "stupid", "dumbfuck", and "retard", don't even cover the kind of mental defect you have.

I bet there is some special word in german or latin, that can better describe your level or dumbassery.

[Anonymous No.4206957]

>>4206945

>no, to me it makes perfect sense

Then why cant you explain it?

>im not going to, figuratively, explain to a 4 year old child.

Explain what?
Why wouldnt you?

>they wont havea clue where im coming from

If they dont know where you are cominq from, Then explain "Where" you are cominq from to them?
Whow exactly is that a problem to you if it is as you say ,sensical to you?

[Anonymous No.4206958]

>>4206952
i'll say this briefly once, you pick up the pieces
>What are you trying to explain?
that our imaginations are limitless, and education closes doors of imaginations once were declare an educational tidbit as fact.

>Op can't take pop sic and start creating dumb theories and treat them as equals to real theories
not once did i see op say it was truth

[Anonymous No.4206967]

All I see of science today is merely a competition of who is smarter, or for profit.

[Anonymous No.4206969]

>>4206954
>>4206931

>>4206908:
8/10

[Anonymous No.4206972]

See, OP, the thing is, you seem to be comming from what is at times refered to as a 'Right Brain' stance... creative, imaginative, intuitive... that sort of thing... the part that is entertained by the 'what if?' Unconcerned with how close it is to the actual workings of reality.

The people here are predominately 'Left Brained' they don't really care some much about what 'could be' so much as what IS. Sure your... idea, is imaginative, but the majority of the evidence collected so far says 'nope... no chance.' After that sort of rejection the left culls off that idea as invalid and wasting time... it then focuses on reconciling and examining the finer details of the remaining valid theories.

In order for your idea to even be considered again, you need to throw a LOT of evidence against the current valid theories. Otherwise you are wasting it's valuable time.

People with think this logically HATE having their time wasted becasue they have already considered that it is at a premium limited by their lifespan... In short, in writing this I have wasted 5 min thinking and explain to someone who probably won't read it WHY I am frustrated with them wasting that time.

There comes a point when you realize that to advance to the higher levels, the bleeding edge of human understanding one has to take vast swaths of previous understanding on faith, because one doesn't have the time to examine each and every tine detail.

TL,DR: We can never learn to fly, if we must all first invent fire.

[Anonymous No.4206980]

>>4206972
i agree with you. however, if it bothers you, don't enter. simple as that.

[Anonymous No.4206981]

>>4206617
Congrats on liking science OP. It is great that you are interested in it. However, as of the moment, your thinking skills aren't good enough to be taken seriously.

Not to be insulting, but you are either very very underage, or just stupid. You need to have a good ability to "reason", use "logic" and have good "deductive" skills to be a scientist. You have none of these.

Maybe when you grow older (and your brain is more developed) you may do great things in science, but not now. Now you are just a little kid, making cute little hypothesis, THAT ARE SHIT.

Just like you need the proper skills and experience to be a medical doctor, lawyer, ect, you need certain skills to be a scientist. You don't have those skills yet. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.4206998]

>>4206981
shame on you for calling someone stupid.

[Anonymous No.4207006]

Reading that was more painful then reading Christopher Langan's theory of the universe. Glad you're enthustiatic but get a degree and then try to do something original.

[cyriak No.4207010]

[Anonymous No.4207013]

>>4206981

>Condescendingly lectures about maturity while insulting him in every conceivable way

The hilarious irony!

[Anonymous No.4207018]

>In shock at what this has become

People can be so harsh...

[Anonymous No.4207029]

To one man's brilliant idea is another man's hell, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.4207033]

>>4207013
>>4206998
If you are stupid, then /sci/ will call you fucking stupid.

Welcome to /sci/

[Anonymous No.4207037]

this thread has made me hate humanity that much more. i thought science was a step into the right direction of understanding.

[cyriak No.4207046]

>>4207037
What the OP was talking about wasn't science.

[Anonymous No.4207050]

>>4207037
I see no science in this thread

[Anonymous No.4207051]

>>4207037

>this thread has made me hate humanity that much more.

Why do you think that your sweeping generalisation is a step in the right direction of anything at all?

>i thought science was a step into the right direction of understanding.

Unfortunately for individuals that are illogical like you, it isnt.

[Anonymous No.4207058]

>>4207037
sure op looks up above him and wonders, using the basics he knows. that's science and creativity together.

you obviously don't appreciate science because if you did, you should appreciate everyone around you. that's my story, anyway. i've come to accept everybody who doesn't do any harm to their own kind.

[Anonymous No.4207061]

>>4206981

Actually her parents are German and Dutch, but nice try trying to claim her as your own you fucking filthy, ignorant American.

[Anonymous No.4207066]

>>4207037
Science is about the truth, about the cold harshness of reality. Scientists are the most critical motherfuckers on the planet.

If you want to convince them of something YOU BETTER HAVE TONS OF EVIDENCE TO BACK UP YOUR SHIT.

If you don't have evidence to back up your shit, maybe you should try and make it into a religion (no evidence needed).

[Anonymous No.4207070]

>>4207066
where did he say he was he trying to convince? nowhere. this is where everybody in this thread has gone wrong. your ego must be huge

[Anonymous No.4207073]

OH SHIT NIGGER WHAT IS YOU DOING!!??

>2012
>not serving Satan

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http://www.angelfire . com/empire/serpentis666/Outsiders.html BUT I IS AN ATHIEST!?!?!?
http://www.angelfire .com/empire/serpentis666/Tree.html SATAN CREATED HUMANITY THROUGH GENETIC ENGINEERING
http://www.angelfire . com/empire/serpentis666/Incubus.html HAVE SEX WITH DEMONS

Don't miss out on this shit nigga, you'll be mad if you do. ANCIENT ALIENS NIGGER.

[Anonymous No.4207074]

lol OP wtf are you taking about?

Learn2gravity you n00b. You don't even need GR to see why your ideas are retarded

[Anonymous No.4207076]

>>4207074
why is it retarded? explain on what levels of your imagination this is retarded.

[Anonymous No.4207081]

>>4207070
Only thing that matters is the validity of OPs claims. People need to learn early what science is really about. Partially related words from Gerard Hooft: "They believe this, only because they understand totally nothing about the real way problems are solved in Modern Physics"

[Anonymous No.4207082]

>>4207066

>reality

What is reality?

>Scientists are the most critical motherfuckers on the planet.

Physical reccords needed.

>If you want to convince them of something YOU BETTER HAVE TONS OF EVIDENCE TO BACK UP YOUR SHIT

Where is your exvidence for that proposition?

>If you don't have evidence to back up your shit, maybe you should try and make it into a religion

Then why didnt you do it?

>no evidence needed)

Prove it.

Damn you've asserted so much conerning the necessity of exvidence yet you havent proposed any exvidence for your assertions.
Whow hilariously ironic and hypocritical.

[Anonymous No.4207087]

>>4206931
>>4206944
>>4206954
>>4206969

Guys, it was sarcasm. A joke. He's making fun of the guy he replied to. God, you people are stupid.

[Anonymous No.4207089]

>>4207081
he recognizes how awesome and fascinating the universe is. that's all i care about

[Anonymous No.4207098]

3000 years ago, a man asks, "what if there is no God?", and gets lynched for it. This is what this thread reminds me of.

[Anonymous No.4207102]

LOL OP you are a major retard.

Learn2physics and math

[Anonymous No.4207116]

>There is no such thing as dark energy or dark matter. How could there be?

Yes! Yeas! FUCKING NOBEl FOR THIS GUY!

[Anonymous No.4207119]

>>4207098
>>4207098
>>4207098

[Anonymous No.4207238]

OP don't listen to these people. I think your ideas are great. Go out there, write up a paper, and show it around.
Those stoopid scientists will have their MiNdS BLOWN

[Anonymous No.4207252]

>>4207238
This. People here are just jelly cause they can't figure out their own original theories.

[Anonymous No.4207262]

Oh shit wait. I understand now. The theory was just an illusion, all just a hoax.
The real point of the thread was to show how much of an aspie-infested crapper /sci/ was.
>>4206792
He admit he was wrong. What could have happened at this point is the thread could have died off peacefully or only a few people interested in the poetic potential of the theory continued posted.
What happened is the great shitstorm of our time. Posts by people who couldn't help posting over and over again that OP is a shitstain.

He... He just wanted to share a fun idea....

[Anonymous No.4207266]

>>4207252
>>4207238
Stop samefagging this already shitty thread up and accept the fact that you're not doing any help to science with these threads

[Anonymous No.4207267]

Yes, yes yes and yes.

and whilst OP is not yet doing a science to a higher level, i hope he/she does, as at least he/she will love it! :D

[Anonymous No.4207290]

if i wanted to help science, would i be on 4chan? no, whilst i am in labs or at uni i am working with the aim to further science, right now i am bored and cannot sleep, and i saw in OP a bit of me from when i was a retard doing GCSE's. So i was nice. :P

[Anonymous No.4207297]

>>4207252
An ignore 500 years of science. come up with your own

[Anonymous No.4207304]

will never understand why people got mad at this.

[Anonymous No.4207326]

>>4207304
And this is a group of unimportant 4channers. Think about the rest of the world.

[Anonymous !x1aZpVg/mw No.4207328]

OP isnt faggot

/thread

[cyriak No.4207337]

>>4207304
Many of us do. You apparently don't.
See >>4207116 and >>4206943

[Anonymous No.4207347]

Retards can't sage. This proves just how intellectual /sci/ really is.

[Anonymous No.4207380]

>>4207337
Well? Science is just starting, isn't it?

[cyriak No.4207387]

>>4207380
>What the fuck?
Did you not read his post?
How long is your attention span?

[Anonymous No.4207392]

>>4207387
He got mad because OP made a claim that science is just starting, that of which neither you, him, nor I can justify.

I think it's safe to say that in a span of 4000 years of endless discovery, we've just scratched the surface.

[Anonymous No.4207429]

I don't mind if people go full retard with philosophical or meta-physical things but if you start throwing all kinds of ignorant shit, you deserve all the hate we'll dare to give.

[Anonymous No.4207440]

I think I will archive this thread for future references.

[Anonymous No.4207454]

what evidence do we have of dark matter and dark energy besides the fact that galaxies are distancing from one another?

[Anonymous No.4207457]

>>4207454
sorry and "holding" a galaxy together

[Anonymous No.4207462]

>>4207429
isnt dark matter and dark energy metaphysical?

[Anonymous No.4207480]

>And I'm not high

This should have been the signal to stop reading

[Anonymous No.4207488]

>>4207480
lulz xD no kidding

[Anonymous No.4207501]

>>4207454
The fact that stars at the very edge of galaxies orbit the centers of their respective galaxies at nearly the same velocity as stars close to the centers of those galaxies implies that galaxies contain much more mass than we can detect from visible light. Enter dark matter. As for dark energy, it's a consequence of the theory of relativity, but as of right now we have no solid proof or evidence of this force existing. There are experiments going on right now to detect dark matter particles, but this is difficult due to the fact that those particles do not interact with ordinary matter.

[Anonymous No.4207507]

>>4207501
exactly, so what happens if they don't find it?

"if the theory doesnt fit the facts, change the theory"

[Anonymous No.4207541]

>>4207507
Well yeah, if nothing turns up then it's back to the drawing board, though several particles which we know exist, such as neutrinos, could be candidates for dark matter.

[Anonymous No.4207558]

>>4207541
> neutrinos
>could be candidates for dark matter neutrinos, >mfw

[Anonymous No.4207607]

There is no fun in ignorance. Stop trying to promote ignorance as fun.

[Anonymous No.4207622]

>>4207607
Haven't you heard? Ignorance is bliss. I can vouch for that.

[Anonymous No.4207656]

>>4207622
Ignorance is dangerous and deadly.

[Anonymous No.4207683]

Fantasy is fun. But only as long as you have a clear grip on what is fantasy and what is real. OP's proposition falls in the category of fantasy.

If he had started this thread "I'm writing a story that happens in a universe that is such-and-such, can you help me make it more consistent", he'd have gotten a lot more positive response.

Granted that the people opening up on him could have done it in a more civil and polite way...