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what is matter and energy made up of?

>> No.4153314

>Matter
>Molecules
>Atoms
>Quarks
>String Theory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory

Picture middle right.

>> No.4153315

Higgs Boson

>> No.4153316

Peanut butter.

>> No.4153317

>>4153314
what are the strings made up of then?

>> No.4153319

>>4153317
Themselves.

>> No.4153320

>>4153317
cotton

>> No.4153321
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4153321

the matrix

>> No.4153322

You're asking for the definition of a definition. We can't explain it anymore than it's already been explained (at the moment).

>> No.4153324

everything is made of condensed rainbows.

>> No.4153325

>>4153319
Things cannot be me up of themselves. For if it did, then strings would need to be inside the strings, which need needs to be inside the strings inside the string, and so on. That doesn't make anysense

>> No.4153331

tl;dr no one knows

>> No.4153334

>>4153325
>Things cannot be me up of themselves.
Yeah they can.

>> No.4153336

>>4153325

>>Implying that (providing sting theory is correct) quarks aren't just advanced string amalgamations that are less advanced than sets of proton string amalgamations

We're barely able to observe quarks, and even that is pushing it.

>> No.4153348

>>4153334
give me one real life example of things being inside of themselves

>> No.4153351

A three layered cake can be made up of 3 smaller cakes

>> No.4153353

>>4153348

Flashlights.
Niggers.

>> No.4153355

>>4153348

>>4153336, and the fact that Helium atoms are made up of Hydrogen atoms, and the heavier atoms are all derivatives of the smaller atoms. When does a molecule of water become a body of water? When does it become a puddle? A drop?

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>>4153353
>flashlights inside flashlights inside flashlights inside flashlights inside...

NOPE

>> No.4153360

>>4153348
Fractals.

>> No.4153362

>>4153360
>implying fractals actually exist in real life

>> No.4153363

>>4153357
>>4153348
>>4153325

ITT: OP is a terrible troll and/or loves to ignore anything that doesn't fit his agenda

>> No.4153364

>>4153351


>cakes atop cakes atop cake
umpossible!

>> No.4153366

>>4153363
>implying you have given any proof of things inside themselves

>> No.4153369

>>4153362

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal#In_nature

Also, cracks in ice, snowflakes, etc.

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>>4153362
>Implying they don't

>> No.4153372

>>4153364
Are you saying my cake in a lie

>> No.4153376

>>4153366
>implying there isn't a smallest indivisible particle which forms the basis of things and is not made of anything smaller.

>> No.4153373

>>4153366

>Implying you aren't a cunt

>>4153336
>>4153351
>>4153355
>>4153360
>>4153369

Post proved.

>> No.4153377

>>4153376
>implying that small indivisible particle can't be divided

>> No.4153380

>>4153370
>>4153369
Oh yea forgot about those. However those are still just patterns not things in themselves.

>> No.4153383

>>4153377

even if you manage to divide them, both parts are the same thing just smaller

>> No.4153384

>>4153383
S/2 != S

>> No.4153386

>>4153383

>implying it wouldn't stop existing when divided

>> No.4153389

>>4153380
My mention of fractals is not related to anything else posted by anybody else.

>>4153373
I fail to see the difference between a pattern for an object and the object itself. Take, for instance, a star trek style transporter or replicator. Giant leaps of technology aside, it merely reassembles atoms into the pattern given on an input. All complex objects are just patterns of assembled energy and/or matter. So, wouldn't the smallest divisible be the pattern itself which is recursive? Just a thought.

>> No.4153390

Um, so what's the relationship with energy and matter, how does that shit connect?

>> No.4153393

>>4153384

why not?

>> No.4153397

>>4153384
>S/2 !=S

S=0

Oh shi~

>> No.4153401

Energy and matter are made of anti-spacetime. Because they destroy the nothingness of empty spacetime.

>> No.4153402

>>4153401
citation needed

>> No.4153404

>>4153389

>>Implying patterns form human bodies

Sure, but to a degree. There's a point where patterns form patterns of patterns, and patterns of patterns form patterns, producing different end structures.

>>4153390

According to Einstein's theory of general relativity, energy is just mass multiplied by the speed of light squared. 1 Joule (unit of energy) = kg (mass) times meters squared per seconds squared (change in area per second, per second).

>> No.4153405

>>4153402
Because I said it and I'm a troll.

>> No.4153406

>>4153390
No such thing as energy, only matter, forces, and waves

>> No.4153408

>>4153401

That's an interesting theory, but it also isn't true. It's like saying everything is made up of the opposite of things, which is nothing. Everything can't be made of nothing; tht just doesn't make sense.

>> No.4153409

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXmzcroUmdU

it all makes sense

>> No.4153413

>>4153404
>>4153406

Does anything in the atom/quark change when there is energy? No. Therefore energy is a human construct for kinetics/heat/sound/etc.

>> No.4153414

>impyling OP's question is sensical

define "made of"

>> No.4153419

>>4153413
Well, yes, something does change.

Einstein established this. E=mc^2. With a change in energy, the mass changes, proportional to the speed of light squared.

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>>4153390
Energy equals Mass times the speed of light squared. This means a tiny amount of mass can become a tremendous amount of energy.

Normally, Mass isn't in a hurry to do that however. Energy is released only when mass undergoes decay, fission or fusion.

Most of the energy that powers are modern lives was inefficiently captured by plants from the fusion reaction undergoing in our star. That energy was used by the plant to create a chemical bond. We break that chemical bond to release the energy. The mass that was sacrificed to make a car run? Came from the sun.

The other energy came from stars much, much longer ago. At the end of their lifecycle they blew up with enough force (because of, again, matter being converted to energy) to shove mass into heavy radioactive elements, like uranium. We dig that uranium up and make it undergo fission, causing it to decay and lose just a teeny-tiny bit of mass in the processes, releasing a tremendous amount of energy.

All matter in the universe is very, very slowly being turned into energy. If our universe is open (endlessly expanding/infinate) then eventually their will be no mass left.

>> No.4153465

>>4153420
>If our universe is open then eventually their will be no mass left

only on average..