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what would happen if i stay up for exactly 30 days with stimulants? would it be possible to think and be productive?

or will i died?

>> No.4120649

dead after 5 (with luck)

>> No.4120651

Depends on your genes. You'll probably die after 5 or so days if you don't allow your body to pass out (stimulants etc.) though.

>> No.4120656

It's not unusual for people to go for around three weeks on speed. Well, it is unusual, but not unheard of. You'll sure as shit not be productive though. Do some reading, erowid has a large library of users recorded experiences, especially on amphetamines.

>> No.4120679

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_Ngoc

>> No.4120690

i once stayed awake for 1.5 days or near 2 days on the adhd medicine concerta, and i was having auditory and mild visional hallucinations

>> No.4120691

>>4120649
>dead after 5 (with luck)
I really don't think this is true.

You could probably stay awake over a week, you'd just be crazy and shit.

>> No.4120696

>>4120690
>and i was having auditory and mild visional hallucinations
I stay up for 2 days at a time often, especially when on breaks from class/work/whatever.

I've never had anything like that

>> No.4120726

>>4120690
that's nothing.
just 2 days ago, I accidentally took long-acting adderall instead of the short acting version so that I could focus on schoolwork (I did actually do a lot)
but then I ended up staying up all night until morning, playing video games. I just never felt like going to bed.
The next night I stayed up until 2:00 am
that's I guess from 6 am plus a full 24hr day up until 2am, 4 hrs short of a full day. I could easily have done it again and been longer, but I am not a moron and I know it is unhealthy to do that.

thank goodness for weekends...

that's just recently...

(It is rare... but easy with medication / internet )

>> No.4120867

>>4120679

Yeah, here's another:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Herpin

None of that shit was VERIFIED.

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4120883

Obligatory.

>> No.4120928

>>4120883

fuck that was awesome

>> No.4120931

>>4120643

you'll be fine for a few days but the probability of having a stimulant induced psychosis will go up.

>> No.4120946

>>4120883
Went to much into fantasy there in the end. First two thirds was good.

>> No.4120972

>>4120883

Favorite copypasta ever

>> No.4120980

>>4120883
fuck that was good.

>> No.4120981

>>4120972
that's really not saying much, imo

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>>4120643
Any source for this story? For me it's like another "In soviet russia..." fairytale.

>> No.4121006

I have a time theory that will bring to it topics of science, philosophical, cultural, paranormal interests etc. I want to set it up on a forum that is very accessible to many people. Where particular titles for each forum topic, e.g. Stonehenge or Pyramids etc... I have no one that I would bring that question to except you guys, in case something perfect comes to mind as it is very political and I am requiring a very secure server for it.

>> No.4121007

Absolute farthest you'd get is 10 but chances are you're dead after 5.

>> No.4121026

>>4121003
I just finished reading that bullshit. And I decide its bullshit.

>> No.4121040

>>4120883
>>4121007
In soviet Russia, lack of sleep kills everyone, but you.

>> No.4121055

>>4120883

Shit reminded me of that shitty ghost of mars movie

>> No.4121056

hallucination starts at 4, you die around two weeks.

you would probably fall asleep beforehand without stimulants to keep you up.

>> No.4121090

Depends on the person

Some people would probably die after a week, while others might be able to make it to three weeks

30 days, however = ded

>> No.4121110

antioxidants would be a big requirement

>> No.4121122

sleep is not required to live.

sleep just allows your body to maintain equilibrium, organize thoughts, and repair itself for a sustained, short period.

however, using stimulants to stay awake for a month is not advisable because you will achieve near overdose amounts, or rather you will overdose, because only a certain amount will dissolve in your bloodstream past a point, the rest into fat.

the withdrawal from a dependency that high and for that long would not be fun, even if it was just caffeine, which by the way, is incredibly easy to overdose on.

>> No.4121128

>>4121122
>sleep is not required to live
dohoho

>> No.4121131

>>4121128
do any research into the subject, moron.

>> No.4121140

>>4121131
Hurr, it's not the sleep deprivation itself that kills you, but it can fuck up your mind so severely that you die anyway

>> No.4121147

>>4121140
people do not become anymore groggy after a week without sleep than fully rested.

the problem is that morons like OP, destroy their bodies and minds with drugs thinking that it is not entirely the power of the will that enables you to stay active.

>> No.4121154

>>4121122
>>4121122

Moron.

Sleep is essential to restore cranial neurons to healthy physiological conditions. Your brain will literally take damage if you dont sleep.

On average, people would die after 5 days of absolute zero sleep.

However, this length would be impossible to obtain without inhuman conditions. (Such as putting a human into a deep swimming pool with no way to get out)

>> No.4121157

>>4121147
Nigga, the reason you don't hear about sleep related deaths more often and hear about people dying from using drugs to stay awake is because if you're not using chemicals, your brain will force you to sleep regardless of your intentions

Insomnia kills people because it prevents the brain from "force-sleeping"

>> No.4121171

>>4121154
lol'd.

what you say is entirely hypothetical.

even wikipedia will refute your myth

>> No.4121199

heart damage if you live, I'm sure 420chan isn't joking about staying up for 30 days though since they are retarded addicts.

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>>4120883

What in the living fuck did I just read?

>> No.4121240

>>4120883
>>4120883

confirmed for 100% unadulterated bullshit

>> No.4121243

>>4121240
Do you have evidence to backup your claim?

I WANT TO BELIEVE!

>> No.4121272

Batshit insane then died.

>> No.4121282

<<.4121154

wouldn't they die a lot faster from drowning?

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>>4121272

>> No.4121306

>>4120883
>triple the average oxygen in blood
dayum nigger
fuckin superhumans

>> No.4121308

>>4121240
>>4121240

-No gasous chemical agents exists that can diffuse through the lungs in to blood, through blood-brain barrier, through glia into synapses THAT can actually keep a human without falling into sleep. Sleep cannot be controlled through chemicals for such long perios. Maybe for a 1 day maximum with caffeine, BUT with a gas and these time periods it is absolutely impossible.
-Even with hypothetical stimulants, outside physical force must be applied to disorient the person from sleeping. The pure sleep pressure cannot be resisted after a certain period.
- Said equipment did not exist in the 1940's. "Live oxygen INTAKE monitoring" Impossible without integrated circuits.
- Overwhelming visual and auditory hallucinations kick in after 2-3 days. Source said subjects were discussing calmly on even day 5.
- The list is endless...

Ps. The original article is the one making the claim and they didnt even post a source...

>> No.4121323

>>4121282
>>4121282

Absolutely not! The whole point of the set up is that the human stays awake by having to perform a continous physical task, in this case, slowly tread water.

It is impossible to sleep if you are using your muscles to perform tasks.

If he falls asleep, water entering the nose will trigger the nasal drowning reflex and you will wake up immediately and perform a cough.

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>>4120883
>>4121003
>>4120972
>>4120980
>>4120946

I've seen it on /x/ many times.
It's in my /x/ copypasta folder, sans pictures.
Actually... looking at it now, the version I have is slightly different from the one with pictures.

>> No.4121342

Humans cannot stay away for more than 80 hours without dying.

>> No.4121361

>>4120883
The ending was too thematic and unrealistic; otherwise, great pasta.

>> No.4121370

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Gardner_%28record_holder%29

>Randy Gardner holds the scientifically documented record for the longest period of time a human being has intentionally gone without sleep not using stimulants of any kind. In 1964—as a 17-year-old high school student in San Diego, California—Gardner stayed awake for 264 hours (eleven days), breaking the previous record of 260 hours held by Tom Rounds of Honolulu.[1] Gardner's record attempt was attended by Stanford sleep researcher Dr. William C. Dement. Gardner's health was monitored by Lt. Cmdr. John J. Ross. Accounts of Gardner's sleep-deprivation experience and medical response became widely known among the sleep research community.[2][3][4][5]

>Gardner stayed awake for 264 hours (eleven days)

Guess you're wrong, >>4121342

>> No.4121387

>>4120649

Crackheads regularly stay up for longer than 5 days, then they sleep for like 2 or 3 days.
They're like some obscure kind of car radio thieving vampires.

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>>4121370
On average smartass.

That like saying

>Hey guys can I run for 200 runs straight or will I die

And then you mentioning that one guy from California...

That's why I hate all you cocksuckers. You are all arrogant assholes who got bullied on when they were little so now they need to compensate by being a huge douche.

Yes, I am fucking mad.

>> No.4121390

>>4120883

I don't care if that was real or fake that was amazing

>> No.4121395

>>4121389
And this is why I hate typing with laptops.

Flat typing surfaces lead to bad grammar.

That and also my seas of rage.

>> No.4121404

>>4121389
Your statement was presented as an absolute.
Had you said, "most humans die after 80 hours" my one example (which is really 2 examples, considering the guy whose record Gardner broke was also greater than 80 hours) would have meant exactly nothing.

There is no need to get so upset. Let's assume you did say most, and not all. Can you cite any legitimate sources for the claim that most people would die after 80 hours (3 and 1/3 days) without sleep? If so, please do.