/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4120038]

Get in here and discuss how we would crash Europa into Mars thus creating a new planet suitable for life. Why? Because fuck you thats why!

[Anonymous No.4120123]

Europa crash into Mars? What would Zeus think?

[Anonymous No.4120134]

sounds like a Clarke novel.

[Anonymous No.4120139]

>>4120038
Rockets. Lots and lots of rockets.

[Anonymous No.4120169]

I'm no astrophysicist, but wouldn't an impact of that size really fuck up mars?

[Anonymous No.4120176]

>Crashing Europa into Mars
>Crashing one of the most interesting and scientifically valuable celestial bodies into Mars
>Not using just some asteroids

[Anonymous No.4120202]

Instead, let's crash a few thousand tons of tardigrades with equal quantity food source into mars.

>mfw we conquer the galaxy with our new spacebear friends

[AL !yYNJ4o.o86 No.4120207]

Europa mass: 4.80×10^22 kg
Jupiter mass: 1.8986×10^27 kg

distance mars to Europa: 7.715×10^8 km
orbital radius Europa: 670,900 km

energy needed: 9*10^30J

you are going to need allot of rockets. it will be a little less because of Mars's attraction, but its still a lot. thats 2*10^15 megatons TNT or about 500 trillion of our best nukes.

just calculated Mars's effect, it lowers the energy needed by 0.1%

i think it would be best to take something not bound the the largest mass in the solar system excluding the sun.

[Anonymous No.4120213]

"MEIN FURHER I CAN WALK"

[Anonymous No.4120225]

Do we really need to crash something into Mars? Can't we just pump greenhouse gases into the Martian atmosphere?

To delve even deeper. Would it be possible to filter out excess gases from our atmosphere and ship them to Mars? Granted we don't have enough excess to heat up Mars, but it would help keep our temperature cool.

[AL !yYNJ4o.o86 No.4120234]

>>4120225
there is a lot of gasses in the rock that will get released if we warm it a little, so we dont need to import all the ass from off planet. just enough to get it started.

[Anonymous No.4120245]

>>4120234

Can you please articulate that better? I didn't quite get that.

[Anonymous No.4120268]

Mars would become an ocean world. Europa has much more water than the Earth.

[AL !yYNJ4o.o86 No.4120274]

>>4120245
mars has trapped gas, if it gets warm the gas escapes. only a little gas from earth will heat it enough to let the other gas escape, after that it will heat up and release more gas.

[Anonymous No.4120280]

>>4120274

Ahh okay. So my idea of transported some of our excess to Mars could actually work then?

[Anonymous No.4120307]

>>4120038
>creating a new planet suitable for life

Mars is a dead planet hence the lack of a magnetic field now and atmosphere.

You'd have to do something really horrible to the planet to get it back up and operating.


Alternating you could crash venus into it

[Anonymous No.4120318]

It would be very difficult to get europa out of jupiters orbit, a couple nukes wouldn't even do the trick

[AL !yYNJ4o.o86 No.4120319]

>>4120280
>>4120280
yes

[Anonymous No.4120322]

>>4120307
Mars has a atmosphere, its just all CO2

[Anonymous No.4120328]

>>4120038
>crash Europa into Mars thus creating a new planet suitable for life

Nope. All you will get is a bigger mars.

[Anonymous No.4120335]

What would happen if we went 1 million of our best nukes at the sun?

[Cunt !rdCUNTjJsk No.4120338]

>>4120328


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.....a... kingsize mars..?

[Anonymous No.4120341]

>>4120335
they would not even make it to the sun (we couldn't launch them very far)

[Anonymous No.4120348]

>>4120341
once in space what's stopping them? Aside from melting before it reaching the sun

[Anonymous No.4120349]

Why crash Europa into mars? I would just plant a shit load of trees and take the CO2 out of the atmosphere

[Anonymous No.4120366]

>>4120348
theres inertia in space

[Anonymous No.4120388]

>>4120348
Thinks vacuum really is vaccum
>ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.4120414]

>>4120388

It's a good enough vacuum that all the planets have stayed in pretty much the same orbits for billions of years and will continue to do so for billions more. What's your beef?

[Anonymous No.4120582]

>>4120038
The friction caused by crashing the mass of europa into mars would increase the surface temperature to levels way beyond useful for hundreds of thousands of years.

The energy expenditure of first accelerating and then braking europa in such a way that the water becomes a resource on the planet is just so humongous that we would have to be beyond Kardashev 2.

And frankly at that level we would probably have found smarter ways to make mars habitable than hauling a whole moon through space.

[Anonymous No.4120589]

> crashing europa into mars

this is stupid.
Europa is a moon orbiting Jupiter, you would be better off establishing a colony on europa or at least a water shipping program
MAYBE you could try crashing comets into it, but I am hoping that we find more water under the surface of mars.

I have to mention, that in terms of what we currently actually know about the solar system, we really do not know very much. A lot of the detailed descriptions have lots of speculation in them, and we have not been able to drill into Mars at all yet. The problem is that rovers cannot go to the caves and lava tubes that would probably provide the basis of fantastic martian habitats.

Also, there is water ice in the soil at higher latitudes (see Phoenix Lander) and historically it is extremely likely that there were large quantities of subsurface water (according to clays, veins), but the martian atmosphere is not able to support the water cycle and so evaporation did not return as rain, so water sank down to the bedrock.

If we wanted to somehow restore Mars's wetness and warmth, we would probably first want to restore the atmosphere and temperature (greenhouse effect) however the atmosphere can't last really long on Mars, since it doesn't have enough gravity.

[Anonymous No.4120594]

It's better to just use comets.