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Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:26:22 2011 No.4098360 [Reply] [Original]

i have a physics degree and can't find a job. i am fail.

i now wonder if i should have gotten a business degree even though that would suck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:28:30 2011 No.4098363 Just a bachelor's, right? I'm a sophomore phys major but I even I know phd is mandatory. you're ahead of me bro, keep truckin'

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:29:46 2011 No.4098366 >>4098363 phd in physics is better than becoming bill gates, as far as posterity is concerned.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:42:05 2011 No.4098389 >>4098360 No, you shouldn't have gotten a business degree. Get a PhD in physics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:44:21 2011 No.4098392 >>4098389 what jobs exist for phd's in physics? i haven't seen any...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:45:29 2011 No.4098395 http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=130296

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:50:02 2011 No.4098407 >>4098392 http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=391553

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:51:09 2011 No.4098413 >>4098395 the link in that thread are dead. thanks for trying though.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:56:49 2011 No.4098424

Fuck a Ph.D. You idiots realize modern physics will probably be shattered completely in the next 20 years? Continue into Mathematics and astro or CE/EE if you are hardcore and don't want to see your entire life's work invalidated by some faggy college hipsters when you're 40.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:58:06 2011 No.4098427

>>4098407

i know i'm brushing irony here, but just because random people on the internet say that getting a physics phd *could* be worth it in terms of salary /job opportunities, doesn't make it true.

it also doesn't answer the question of what kind of jobs physics phd's get. i get that there are "technical" jobs, but does anyone here really know specifically?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:59:06 2011 No.4098429 Is there something you'd like to specialize in? I'd look into something where you could begin to earn security clearances that will be helpful later on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:02:29 2011 No.4098437 Los Alamos National Laboratory, Gemini Observatories, Antarctica, the Instuitute for Quantum Computing (accelerated grad program).

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:03:38 2011 No.4098442 >>4098424 at no point in history has science been "shattered completely" and there's no evidence it'll happen any time soon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:08:09 2011 No.4098451 Every former physics major I know has a job... in information security. Hey, it's better than help-desk.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:08:18 2011 No.4098453 >>4098427 > it also doesn't answer the question of what kind of jobs physics phd's get. i get that there are "technical" jobs, but does anyone here really know specifically? I'd like to know as well.

almostphysicist Sun Dec 4 02:08:18 2011 No.4098454

>>4098360
I graduated with a BS in physics in may. I will be starting grad school in the spring, going for a masters in geophysics.

There are options for you now OP. Nuclear power is an industry you should look into. There are also positions in the medical industry. Look out for medical physicist openings, they will often require bachelor's degrees.

I don't know of too many other options.

almostphysicist Sun Dec 4 02:11:34 2011 No.4098471

>>4098427
>>4098427
Other than theoretical physics, most (if not all) major companies hire physicists to research new technologies and techniques. The applications are diverse - computer manufacturing, aerospace, naval research, power research.

Engineers are tasked with optimizing systems, physicists are responsible for creating new systems altogether, although that's not to say that the roles aren't occasionally reversed.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:18:29 2011 No.4098494

Physics graduate here.

Got my bachelor's degree last spring, and I'm in a graduate program now, not because I'm super excited to do research and specialize in some obscure field and get a doctorate, but rather because I have nothing to lose; they're paying my tuition and giving me a stipend.

Unfortunately, I'm miserable in graduate school right now. I'd quit but there seems to be a general consensus that a bachelor's degree is worthless. I don't know if I believe that, but it scares me into trying harder every time I want to give up.

I don't know if I want to go all the way and get a Ph.D.-- maybe I'll get my M.S. and stop -- but the other day, one of my classmates implied that even a master's degree is worthless, and that a Ph.D. is the only way to go. Is he just trolling the shit out of me?

almostphysicist Sun Dec 4 02:21:46 2011 No.4098501

>>4098494
>>4098494
Depends on what you specialize in. I want to enter the oil/mineral exploration industry, and a masters should be sufficient.

There will always be demand for oil and/or minerals, and there will always be geophysicists/geologists to look for reserves.

Well, at least for another thousand years or so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:28:34 2011 No.4098519 File: 74 KB, 261x363, 1322772909489.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >degree in physics >no job Fuck you. Just... Fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:42:09 2011 No.4098542 >>4098519 do you have a job? or are you just being a douche?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 03:02:33 2011 No.4098596 >> love physics >> smart enough to be an engineer then go into grad school for physics >> making money from inventions i've made and have good job security if it fails

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 03:12:46 2011 No.4098619 Switch masters to geophysics. Graduate and make nice money (>$100k is pretty normal).

>>	/hnd/ Sun Dec 4 03:12:46 2011 No.4098620 >>4098596 Are you Tony Stark?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 03:22:57 2011 No.4098636 Well this thread ruined my day. Are there ANY sciency majors that offer employment with a bachelors?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 03:23:06 2011 No.4098637 >>4098636 With engineering you can be a gay escort.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 03:38:49 2011 No.4098676 >>4098636 Biology.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 04:03:45 2011 No.4098742 Become a high school physics teacher Suck up your pride

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 05:20:50 2011 No.4098937 >>4098636 chemistry yet, you have to live near a chemical cluster in your country and the work is quite repetitive pro: at least the pay is good (where i am from at least)

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 05:23:14 2011 No.4098949

>>4098494

in EU btw
i know you can get a job with your MS in chip fabrication
big companies like ibm subcontract work to semi independant research centers

however when they hire you, they hire you as a phd student which means tax benefits for them
so you are employed at a place that'll keep you for a longer time, you'll also get a phd out of it

con: don't expect a raise untill after you got your phd

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 05:26:31 2011 No.4098958 >>4098501 Considering going Geo., possibilities for money, Job availability,and travel all sound awesome.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:13:26 2011 No.4100003 don't' go into astrophysics. no jobs at all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:17:58 2011 No.4100008 Only pathetic losers take anti-depressants anyways.

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