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4084587 No.4084587 [Reply] [Original]

>Ph.D. in Math
>any job I want
>$300k starting

>> No.4084588

Wanna-be mathematician reporting in.

>> No.4084590

Why do people find math to be so hard?

>> No.4084591

Also, is mathematics an art?

>> No.4084594

I always thought that this meme has no basis to reality. Then I checked the math programs on the later years and actually found out that you can make a shitload of cash and that you get easily hired with some applied math. Nowhere near the 300k, but still.
>tfw even if I finish my physics degree I won't be as employable as mathematicians
Sage for stupid thread

>> No.4084597

>>4084594
That must suck. Can't a physicist do anything a mathematician can do?

>> No.4084598

Problem solvers should be nr 1, rest are 0. Simple math can take you far.

>> No.4084615

>>4084597
I dunno. Like I said, I was just looking at my uni programs and all physics has is Physics - research (the one I'm in) and then about four or five different courses to make you a high school teacher (only physics teacher, chemistry-physics combo, math-physics combo and shit like that). They all last five years and you choose in your freshman year.
Math on the other hand has three years where everybody has the same classes and then the last two years you choose a field like theoretical math, economy, statistics, something with fluids or whatever; and even have subdivisions in those courses.
I got the feeling that if I don't get into research if and when I finish my degree I'll have a hard time finding a job dealing with physics.

>> No.4084618

there is no way you start anywhere at 300k with any degree. enjoy your dreams.

sage for shit meme

>> No.4084620

>>4084615
There are many physicists in the finance field. They are generally hired to some firms because of their abilities for logical problem solving skills. It's a similar reasons for mathematicians. However, you are correct, I am afraid. Mathematicians are more hire-able than a physicist, since a mathematician can apply mathematical models to many more things outside of physics, ie "real world" applications. If a physicist is doing such, they are generally not doing anything in physics and are akin to a mathematician.

This is why I want to be an applied mathematician.

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4084628

>>4084594
really? No where near 300k+?

pic related....

>> No.4084631
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4084631

>>4084618
>>4084618
Oh shit nigger, I have another one!

>> No.4084637

>>4084620
Well, that sucks. My dream would be doing some sort of research. Hell, if I was even just a step above janitor at CERN or something similar working for a pittance I would be very happy. I just suck at math (at least right now) so I don't know if I can make it.

>> No.4084659

>>4084631
>>4084628

Highly competitive for those positions means somewhere around 120k. That 400k is either a typo or an indication of what they will offer for an industry professional with 8+ years of experience. For econometrics/finance/applied maths/computer science 120k starting for excelling PHD students isn't uncommon, but 300k is.

>> No.4084688

>>4084659
Pay for mathematicians is still quite high, and it does hold true they can achieve many different career paths; many more than many when compared to those in sciences.

>> No.4084740

>>4084688

Average pay for mathematician debutants in the workforce is lower than most engineers, all doctors economists and even nurse-midwives.

And the latter part just isn't true, mathematicians are only good for quantitative roles. I'd argue that (overall) people with a degree in philosophy or history have more options.

>> No.4084750

>>4084740
[citation needed]

>> No.4084766

>>4084628
So it's confirmed. 300k starting.

Other majors, are you even trying?

>> No.4084786

OK math whiz, I've a question.
How can I get 26.846 and 28.636 by multiplying / dividing 14.318 (the latter one is just *2).
And how can I get those same two numbers by multiplying / dividing 17.734?

>> No.4084805

>>4084750

Elsevier in corporation with 'Stichting Economisch onderzoek': study and salary research 2011 in the Netherlands.

>> No.4084814

>>4084805
>in the Netherlands
Hahaha, are you serious? Their nominal GDP is lower than Mexico, and PPP GDP lower than Hong Kong.

>> No.4084837

>Their nominal GDP is lower than Mexico,
considering mexico has over 10x their population THAT FUCKING MAKES SENSE
you're an idiot

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4084840

>>4084814

>western europe
>GDP per capita larger than that in the US

>> No.4084841

>>4084814

>comparing countries with unequal sizes by absolute GDP

>> No.4084843

>>4084814

The GDP of your house is lower than Haiti what a loser lolololololol

>> No.4084845

>>4084837
The population of Hong Kong is lower than that of the Netherlands, so your argument is invalid.

Another example in the Japan and Germany. Two vastly different populations, but Germany has a slightly higher PPP GDP, with Japan having a higher nominal GDP. This makes your argument invalid, as well.

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4084848

>>4084840
>2011
>Compares several countries to one country
ISHYGDDT

>> No.4084849

>>4084843
lololol the same goes for you what a loser lololol

>> No.4084851

ITT: brilliant economists

>> No.4084852

>>4084841 see >>4084845

>> No.4084857

I'm confused. Are we implying Hong Kong is poor?

>> No.4084858

>>4084845

Hong Kong is not a country.

Also

The GDP of Bill Gates is higher than your houseblock! Dohohohohoho fgt

>> No.4084860

>>4084858
Then that makes your argument even worse. A non-country has a higher GDP than an entire country. Good job.

>> No.4084861

>>4084845
use per capita fucktard, you're too stupid for this board

>> No.4084862

>>4084848

I have been trolled.

>> No.4084867

>>4084860

No. If I take the GDP per capita of a certain region of Amsterdam it will be higher than that or Norway, which has one of the largest GDP per capita in the world. You can't just compare a single city to an entire country.

I have been trolled

>> No.4084868

>Bill Gates
>PhD In Gatesology
>over 1 billion starting +

>> No.4084872

>>4084861
>implying that wasn't done

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29_per_capita
Germany: 40,274
Japan: 42,783
>higher nominal GDP per capita

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
Germany: 36,081
Japan: 33,885
>lower PPP GDP per capita

Oh, shi-.

>> No.4084873

>>4084867
[citation needed]