/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4067867]

How are the prospects of this sea-forming or marine-engineering look? I honestly don't know what the hell I'm talking about, what makes seabros, seabros. I'm trying to figure out whether or not to go into Ocean and Aquatic Engineering...

[Anonymous No.4067955]

electrical/chemical or dont bother

[Anonymous No.4067971]

It's a pretty good field. Any engineering major will be a lot of work though. Be prepared to spend many a night studying while your friends are out having fun. Also, the first cock is always the worst. After a while you get used to them though. I graduated in 2005 and have been working as an engineer since then and I don't even notice anymore when they go in my mouth. In fact, I'm starting to enjoy it.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4067992]

There's a lot of money there, although right now most of it is in oil and natural gas exploration. That's changing with other industries opening up in the sea like mining (on a large scale) and farming (on a small scale) as well as transformer stations that carry power out to oil rigs back from OTEC or turbine installations to shore.

If you're just looking to get underwater, there's a limited number of submersible pilot positions, and lots and lots of commercial saturation diving positions. Lots of turnover there as people typically only do it for five years or so.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068014]

As futuristic as this looks, it's entirely real; This is what Siemens' subsea power stations look like; they take incoming electricity from subsea power cables and step it down/up as needed for the various installations that use power from it. Like your local transformer station but under thousands of feet of water. If you'd like to design machinery like this, Siemens might be a good company to focus on.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068022]

If you're interested in designing subsea farming enclosures like this one, Kona Blue should be your focus. It's a relatively new industry so there's room for considerable growth, meaning it's reasonable to expect positions to open up over time even in the current economy.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068030]

If you were to study nuclear engineering with a focus on compact naval reactors there would be a place for you at FlexBlue, designing/inspecting/maintaining the naval reactors they plan to use to supply power to coastal cities from 300 feet underwater.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068032]

If you're interested in working for the military, Darpa has renewed focus on submarine technology as of late, with their most ambitious program involving the construction of a rocket powered supercavitating submarine called the "Underwater Express", capable of speeds up to 115mph.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068037]

If you're interested in deep submergence, such as piloting or riding vessels like the Alvin down as far as 4 miles, you'll want to focus on qualifying with the NOAA or the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute as either a submersible pilot or a marine biologist/geologist.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068041]

If you'd like to live and work aboard Aquarius, your options are either to become a marine biologist specializing in coral reef ecosystems or a habitat technician, an incredibly specialized occupation which understandably doesn't have very many openings. Most recently the Aquarius got a new habtech when the last one, Dewey Smith, died in an accident while out on EVA.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068053]

If you want to design environments like this, the position you want is "Marine architect". Most of their work involves the design of aquariums, which understandably employ the same materials and principles as 1atm habitats. The only firms actually building large 1atm habitats right now are US Submarines and FlexBlue.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068058]

If you're interested in designing compact deep submergence submersibles and exoskeletons, you should focus on Nuytco, leader in the field. Their primary project right now is completing the Exosuit, pictured.

[Anonymous No.4068062]

Obvious samefagging

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068070]

If you have the balls for it, you might consider saturation diving as a way to pay for your marine engineering education. Many employers will pay for your training, and you can make a fair chunk of change in just a few years. It is however a very dangerous line of work and accordingly the divers who stay with the job are of a certain type. Not daredevils in the reckless sense, but undisturbed by hanging in a frigid black abyss two thousand feet down for hours at a time, occasionally encountering benthic organisms and enduring multi-day decompression after each gig.

It's exciting in a way and I'm surprised there hasn't been a movie about it. But they do have a saying among saturation divers; "There are old ones, and there are bold ones, but there are no old, bold ones".

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068079]

If you don't mind never actually being underwater, there's a lot of money in ROVs. Piloting them, designing them, everything about them. ROVs are extensively used in deep water oil drilling, along with all manner of other robots and semi automated seafloor installations, pic related.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068097]

If you're interested in the design of nuclear submarines, they're becoming increasingly sophisticated, with features like docking collars for smaller craft and advanced deployable AUVs seen before only in science fiction. These are among the most sophisticated machines built today and are basically the starships of the sea.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068130]

Marine engineering problems that need solving:

Safely accelerate decompression. Probably by some chemical means that flushes nitrogen out of bodily fluids without bubbling. Current favored method is breathing pure O2 during staged decompression process. Quickest deco time from full saturation is around 17 hours.

Decrease the water turbulence and thus the noise profile of magnetohydrodynamic drives, while also increasing their thrust, the two issues which prevent their use in modern military subs.

Find a rocket chemistry which can employ sea water as half of the reaction, and a method of deflecting the tremendous sound it would produce during supercavitation in such a way that it either cannot be pinpointed or cannot be seen coming from specific, controllable angles.

Find a way to fabricate an atmospheric diving exoskeleton with useful articulation in the joints, from materials that will withstand pressures greater than those found at a thousand feet. Current atmospheric diving exoskeletons are limited to 1,000 feet or less. Carbon nanotubules? New kinds of titanium?

Miniaturize a centrifugal seawater oxygen separator so that it can fit in a backpack form factor and powered by batteries or a fuel cell. Alternatively, make one small enough that it can be surgically implanted as an artificial gill.

Develop reliable underwater weaponry that fires supercavitating rounds for Navy Seals. Current offerings have well known issues and hold few rounds (often in their own barrels to avoid jamming problems that plagued magazine fed aquatic rifles of the 60s and 70s)

Design a mass produceable ROV using parts commonly included in radio controlled hobby submarines. Market it as a toy/hobby product and in doing so dramatically undercut all other ROV developers, while also putting a powerful marine science tool in the hands of millions.

[Anonymous No.4068490]

Archive this shit.

[Anonymous No.4068507]

>>4068490

"this thread has received 1 of 4 requests needed to trigger archival."

[Anonymous No.4068511]

Are your hamsters dead yet?

[Anonymous No.4068515]

>>4068097
It's no seaquest DSV

[Anonymous No.4068518]

>>4068507
>>4068490
Go back to /b/ idiot.

[Anonymous No.4068521]

>>4067867
>marine-engineering

Are there homosexuals in the ocean? wtf?

[Anonymous No.4068522]

>>4068507
"this thread has received 2 of 4 requests needed to trigger archival."

[Anonymous No.4068531]

>>4068518
Deal with it nerd.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068537]

>>4068515

It's damn close. A 21st century nuclear sub is pretty high up there on the list of our most sophisticated, large and powerful machines that we're capable of building. It's a pressure hull that can touch bottom anywhere on the conshelf and go deeper than that beyond it, yet is large enough to house 134 men and provide for all of their day to day needs. It's powered by a compact nuclear reactor, which drives a shrouded pumpjet propulsor, basically an underwater jet engine, with a classified speed of somewhere between 30 and 60 miles per hour, and enough nuclear firepower to wipe out all of the biggest cities on Earth by itself. There is no greater military tool right now than the nuclear submarine, and no greater military submarine than the Virginia class.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068544]

I mean, look at this. This is just the control room.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068547]

This is what it takes to build one.

[Anonymous No.4068552]

>>4068547
Good lord.

[Anonymous No.4068557]

>>4068537
but does it have a super intelligent dolphin?

I think not. wake me when it's the future.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068558]

>>4068552

And it's not even the largest. That honor goes to the Russian 'Typhoon' class, which actually had three separate pressure hulls in a single armored skin. Two large diameter hulls for the crew side by side and a third, thin hull for critical hardware isolated from them in the middle/top.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_class_submarine

It was also one of their quietest. While the onboard systems would be obsolete by modern standards, the thing was still a beast.

[Anonymous No.4068565]

lol

this tripfag is so obsessed with sea exploration it isn't even funny

it's literally on an autismal level at this point

what the fuck are you going to find down there besides water molecules and faggot fish?

do we really care what the faggot fish look like?

[Anonymous No.4068567]

>>4068565
>herp
>derp

That's all I took away from your post.

[Anonymous No.4068576]

>global warming
>polar ice caps all melt
>sea levels rise
>incentive for undersea colonization
>underwater cities
Holy shit, I'm wishing global warming is happening faster now.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068600]

>>4068576

That's precisely the plot of this book trilogy, soon to be made into a film trilogy.

[Anonymous No.4068605]

>>4068600
Oh Mad.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.4068611]

>>4068605

Yes? Are you perhaps more a fan of Peter Watt's Starfish? Somehow I don't see Disney being as eager to option that.

[Anonymous No.4068621]

>>4068611

Now that I would go watch.