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The nature and intensity of some of the mainstream scientists’ reaction to any
form of spirituality, in general, and to transpersonal psychology, in particular,
seems to mirror the fanaticism of religious fundamentalists. Their attitude lacks
solid scientific grounding, ignores or distorts all existing evidence, and is impervious to facts of observation and logical arguments. Closer scrutiny reveals that
what they present as an image of reality that has been scientifically proven
beyond any reasonable doubt is a colossus on clay feet supported by a host of a
priori metaphysical assumptions.
One of the most salient examples of this category of scientists was Carl Sagan, professor
of astronomy and space sciences at Cornell University in New York City. An outstanding representative of his field, he achieved worldwide acclaim by his participation as
experimenter in most of the unmanned planetary probe missions, by founding the
project SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence), and creating the highly acclaimed TV series Cosmos. He also designed, jointly, with Frank Drake, the gold plaque
with the message of Earthlings for extraterrestrial civilizations carried by Pioneer 10,
the first spacecraft to leave the solar system. Shortly before Sagan’s death, of myelodysplasia, his science fiction novel Contact inspired a widely acclaimed movie with the
same name.
However, instead of enjoying his professional success and reputation in the area of his
expertise, Carl Sagan embarked for unknown reasons with unusual emotional charge
and determination on a crusade against everything he considered irrational, unscientific, and occult. He assumed a highly authoritative position of an arbiter and judge of
observations reported by a variety of experts from several other disciplines, including
parapsychology, thanatology, psychedelic research, anthropology, and comparative
religion.

>> No.3971061

> The nature and intensity of some of the mainstream scientists’ reaction to any form of spirituality, in general, and to transpersonal psychology, in particular, seems to mirror the fanaticism of religious fundamentalists.

Perhaps you should cite some examples.

> Their attitude lacks solid scientific grounding, ignores or distorts all existing evidence, and is impervious to facts of observation and logical arguments.

Then we could actually decide this based on looking at what they write, rather than you just telling us what you think.

> Closer scrutiny reveals that what they present as an image of reality that has been scientifically proven beyond any reasonable doubt is a colossus on clay feet supported by a host of a priori metaphysical assumptions.

Not sure what you mean by this. You're right to point that that all were doing is making images of reality.. it's not that equations of physics are literally true. They're just really useful and highly correlated with reality.

> One of the most salient examples of this category of scientists was Carl Sagan, professor of astronomy and space sciences at Cornell University in New York City. An outstanding representative of his field, he achieved worldwide acclaim by his participation as experimenter in most of the unmanned planetary probe missions, by founding the project SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence), and creating the highly acclaimed TV series Cosmos. He also designed, jointly, with Frank Drake, the gold plaque with the message of Earthlings for extraterrestrial civilizations carried by Pioneer 10, the first spacecraft to leave the solar system. Shortly before Sagan’s death, of myelodysplasia, his science fiction novel Contact inspired a widely acclaimed movie with the same name.

Oulling out some dope smoking pop sci tard to prove your point is just not fair, there are always exceptions you should try to pick a real scientist instead.

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3971068

>>3971023
>complains that scientist require evidence
>also a piss poor troll

>> No.3971080

>>3971068
> calling it a troll thread because you don't actually know how to refute his central point

ahahahaha

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>>3971080
>implying the troll makes any point

Nicesametroll.jpg

>> No.3971108

>against everything he considered irrational
>anthropology
wait, what?

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Too long, didn't read.

>> No.3971119

>>3971113
fuck off then you dyslexic fuck

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>>3971023
>>3971113

>> No.3971144

>>3971125
fuck off then you dyslexic fuck

>> No.3971167

sage