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ITT: scientific facts that are bound to blow some minds

Let me start:
Now you are aware that colors don't actually exist in the physical world.

(Put simply, how you perceive the different wavelengths of the visible light spectrum is merely a construct of your brain.)

>> No.3915460

If you unravel and stretch out every dna strand in your body they will go from here to the sun.

>> No.3915463

'we are all made of star stuff'

>> No.3915464

>>3915451
Water is magnetic.

>> No.3915466

I bet you it was reddit that made that stupid cake.

>> No.3915468

>>3915464
*bipolar

>> No.3915469

Your brain has more memory than your computer.

>> No.3915471

>>3915468
No, i mean it's magnetic.

>> No.3915473

>>3915464
>>3915468
POLAR, water is POLAR.

>>3915460
This is not true.

>>3915469
Nor is this.

/sci/ is retarded today.

>> No.3915479

>>3915473
no you're retarded.

>> No.3915480

OP caek is different shades of gray.

Woof.

>> No.3915481

>>3915468
>>3915473
Fucker, i mean what i say:

Water is a diamagnetic material.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyqOTJOJSoU

>> No.3915488

>>3915471
Paramagnetic

>> No.3915489

>>3915488
heh, no, the opposite actually. It's diamagnetic.

>> No.3915494

>>3915488
Ferromagnetic

>> No.3915495

>>3915489
>>3915488
>>3915481
POLAR

>> No.3915501

The human brain runs on only 12 Watts.

>> No.3915504

>>3915451
I heard water is magnetic, this true?

>> No.3915505

>>3915494
Agreed, but only because of its polar superparaferromagetism caused by the magneto-gravity effect

>> No.3915506

>>3915495
Hi, you're a dumb cunt.
Water is both polar and diamagnetic.

>> No.3915519

>>3915506
Because of the magneto-gravity effect. Yes, we get it.

>> No.3915522

WILL YOU GUYS SHUT THE FUCK UP.

>> No.3915532

ITT: guys are to dumb to look up words like magnetic, polar and so on

>> No.3915537

Water is water

/thread

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3915539

You will never sex a woman.

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>>3915501
is this true? sounds pretty efficient

>> No.3915546

not science, saged, reported, ignored.

>> No.3915547

>>3915451
>>3915451
>Almost 2012...
>Op is JUST NOW trying to "blow" minds with this information...

I learned this shit 9 years ago... gtfo

What's next?
>did you know we know more about mars than we do about the human brain? MIND BLOW? AMIRITE? AM I COOL YET?

gtfo op.. learn something new

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>>3915546
>>3915547

>> No.3915573

>>3915554
why

>> No.3915585

>>3915573
oh, it's not me (>>3915554) who's mad, they are

and I just happened to have an appropriate image for them

>> No.3915593

>>3915573
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6pnPOanzjE

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>>3915554
This is by far the most mindblowing thing itt as of now

>> No.3915604

Ancient aliens are the cause of everything that you can not understand

>> No.3915611

therapist

the rapist

MIND BLOWN
KEEP YOUR DISTANCE FROM THEM

>> No.3915615

The eyes run at 60 fps

>> No.3915617

Japan US Relations - Jap Anus Relations

>> No.3915620

>>3915595
I have to say, I agree.

>> No.3915621

>>3915611
psychotherapist

pyscho the rapist

>> No.3915622

>>3915611
bricks hath been shat

>> No.3915625

I loled my way through this thread.

what always gets me is that the only reason air and even me are staying on the ground is that this rock we're standing on is sso damn big

>> No.3915626

>>3915621
N'owwww my gawd

>> No.3915634

wait...
color really doesnt exist?

then how did our brain make it exist?

>> No.3915638
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3915638

>The fact that anything exists is arguably the greatest mindfuck.
>Infinity is an interesting concept
>e^ipi +1 = 0
>and pic are all cool

>> No.3915641

>>3915615

mine run faster bitch. and I'm for real. I see crt 's with distinct on off flashes, as with some florescent lights.

generally its a curse.

although I can tell what hubcaps on cars look like even at 70-80 mph

>> No.3915643

>>3915451

I told this fact about colors to a female friend of mine not so long ago. She said: "What! You know how silly that sounds!?".
Yeah, I have dumb friends...

>> No.3915649

>>3915634
Probably an evolutionary trait, maybe our ancestors couldnt tell the difference between poisonous red frogs and normal frogs. Then someone somehow got the ability to tell the difference between them, passed this trait on to its children, and so on and so forth. the ones without the ability to see colour probably perished by getting poisoned or some shit. i dunno man, im not a scientist.

>> No.3915665

>>3915649
so what is the actual color of objects?

>> No.3915672

>>3915634
whe you mean color you mean light waves

>> No.3915675

>>3915665
>>3915665
> I dunno man I´m not a scientist.

>> No.3915678

if every object has light waves bouncing off it consistently
then they do have a color.

it doesnt matter how i interpret it but every object still has a distinct thing about them

???

>> No.3915687

Has this been posted already?

http://listverse.com/2007/12/19/top-20-amazing-science-facts/

>> No.3915701

>>3915678
Object have different surfaces that reflect light in different ways. They don't have colors, they are made of materials that make lightwaves behave differently. What your eye catches and what your brain processes are different wavelengths of light that bounce off of objects, not the objects themselves.

>> No.3915714

>>3915701
SO WHAT COLOR ARE OBJECTS REALLY? OUTSIDE OF A HUMAN BODY?

>> No.3915725

>>3915701
So wait, that means they have nothing. As in nothing pre big bang nothingness? Or what? Fuck i'm confused now

>> No.3915732

Colours do exist. Not as most people think they do though. But they definitely exist.

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>>3915732
what

>> No.3915750

>>3915732
>Colours

>> No.3915758

>>3915701
so, lets define
the color of an object as the wavelength of the light it reflects

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>yfw an object's color is defined by the wavelengths it REJECTS and does NOT ABSORB -- it is defined by what it is not

>> No.3915796

>>3915451
>construct of your brain
construct of retina and brain

>> No.3915804

You have nerves in the back of your eye, 3 different types.

The colors they can see, is all the colors you can see.

>> No.3915817

>>3915451

If it doesn't really exist then how do I know you're seeing the same colour I am?

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>>3915714
Big guy here. I know the answer to that, but it's a surprise and you'll have to wait until you die to find out.

>> No.3915825

THEN WHAT DO THINGS REALLY LOOK LIKE IF NOT THE COLOURS WE PERCEIVE THEM AS?

ARE THERE MORE COLOURS THAN WE CAN SEE? WHAT DO THEY LOOK LIKE AND WHY CAN'T I IMAGINE THEM?

>> No.3915831

>>3915825
I imagine everything is just black and white.

>> No.3915832

>>3915825
>dat der anthropomorphic problem

>>3915817
How do you even know that I'm not a brainless automaton?

>> No.3915840

>>3915825

SERIOUSLY SOMEBODY ANSWER THIS BECAUSE IT'S MAKING ME FEEL REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE, ARE THERE OTHER COLOURS? WHY CAN'T I IMAGINE OTHER COLOURS?

HEEEEEEEEEELP MEEEEEEEEEEE.

>> No.3915850

>>3915840
>dat der anthropomorphic problem

You can't imagine the 'look' of other colors, because the only visual information our brains can grok is what we see now.

What we perceive as colors is merely a specific range of EM radiation. If we could sense a greater range of spectra, we would have additional 'colors' that would represent those spectra.

That's my hypothesis in any case.

>> No.3915857

>>3915850

BUT I WANT TO SEE THEM. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. WHY AM I TRAPPED IN THIS SPECTRUM?

>> No.3915864

God exists.

>> No.3915871

>>3915857
god, you're a faggoty troll.

I hope to some day get FLIR/UV sensing contacts that can hook up to a HUD. Predator vision ftw.

>> No.3915874

>>3915840
well.. say all these electromagnetic waves are hitting an object. we just see a portion of the band called "visible light" which is reflected back. say a green t-shirt only reflects green, out of the visible lights so we can assume that the object absorbs all the other colours.. red, yellow, blue, purple, and all inbetween. but it absorbs it. now i don't know where to go from there..

>> No.3915881

>>3915871

I'm not a troll. It just blows my mind that there are more colours. It makes me sad that I can't see them.

>> No.3915893

>>3915857

Dude, chill the fuck out.

Also, every visual sensation our retina receives, is projected upside down.

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>>3915893
This is true. And neat.

If you wear glasses that flip the image again (ie, the image is upright when it enters your eye, but you will see everything as upside down), your brain will eventually flip it right side up again.

>>3915881
OK. There's nothing that inherently separates the visible spectrum of EM radiation from any of the others, other than it's energy/wavelength. The fact that we only see that spectrum is not anything special.

Birds can see ultraviolet radiation. Most of our taxonomic cousins can only see two colors.

>> No.3915933

>>3915881
there aren't

there are more electromagnetic wavelengths, colors (as you seem to use the term) are something your eyes and brain creates

and to wonder about a sensations you yourself are fundamentally incapable of is just stupid

its like

I WANT THERE TO BE A '2' (not just 0 and 1) IN THE BINARY SYSTEM

or

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT NEUTRINOS TASTE LIKE

>> No.3915943 [DELETED] 

>>3915933

Scientific advancement was made by the people who wanted to taste neutrinos, not the ones happy with toast.

>> No.3915951

>>3915933

I will rephrase:

It would be cool if my body had the ability to perceive and organise even more electromagnetic wavelengths.

It is sad that I don't have these capabilities, and wonder how nice it would be to be able to see infrared or ultraviolet light.

Are you happy, Mr. Pedantic?

>> No.3915952

The whole colour thing got me thinking:

If you broke light speed, wouldn't your colours just start going faster than your matter?

>> No.3915963

>>3915952
Hey guys, in this impossible physics scenario, what would physics doing?

aka your answer is meaningless because the question is impossible.

>> No.3915965

>>3915963

So how are you enjoying being autistic?

>> No.3915966

>>3915963
>And overhears you say it's impossible
>A neutrino walks into a bar

>> No.3915967

>>3915943
i doubt that

dreamers are overrated
curiosity is capable of breaking preconceptions on its own just fine
you don't have to consider the impossible to learn something new, if anything you dull or break your tools and methods of reliable discovery

>> No.3915989

>>3915451
You may as well make a post here saying "Hey guys! Water is wet! Ain't that remarkable?" because your post is about as insightful and intelligent as that.

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>mfw I just made a double rainbow by cleaning my window filter screen outside with a hose

>> No.3915992

>>3915966
neutrinos were proven to go actually slower, italians forgot to include the fact that gps satelites were in different reference frame.

>> No.3916001

>>3915992
Until I've seen a paper on the subject, I still believe that neutrinos go faster than light.

>> No.3916018

>>3916001
Do you believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and the Great Pumpkin, too? How about the Tooth Fairy? Ghosts? Demons? Angels? Black Republicans?

>> No.3916030

>>3916018
None of those is a little ball that can pierce the curtains of time.

>> No.3916036

>>3916030
I'm pretty sure santa claus has to pierce the curtains of time to get his fat ass down every chimney.

Just saying.

>> No.3916045

>>3916030
>>>/x/
>>>/b/

>> No.3916053

>>3916036
Well, Santa COULD be real. The figure we know as "Santa" would have to be several people working for the same person though.

>>3916045
>NO FUN ALLOWED
Calm down, I'm still waiting for my question to be answered.

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>mfw this thread

>> No.3916065

>>3916053
Don't you read the news? It was a measurement error. NOTHING went faster than light, it was an equipment fuck-up, just like I figured it would be.

>y'all niggers are posting in a TROLL thread

>> No.3916069

>>3916065
The original question had nothing to do with neutrinos.

Although I still don't believe you.

>> No.3916078

>>3916069
>posts pic of "troll cake"
>text is nonsense about colors

*shrug* whatever.
/exit

>> No.3916081

>>3916069
prepare your anus

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnfarrell/2011/10/14/netherland-scientist-claims-solution-to-the-ftl-n
eutrino-problem/

http://www.neontommy.com/news/2011/10/cerns-faster-light-neutrinos-explained-special-relativity-clai
ms-physicist

theres also a paper from them on arxiv

>> No.3916093

>>3916078
No, I meant MY original question.

>>3916081
Well, that may be so, but I still don't completely believe in it. It just seems like these people want attention for someone's findings.

>> No.3916097

>>3915989
Good sir, if you are not fascinated by the fact that water is wet then you are a sad and boring individual and not a true scientist.

Please leave /sci/ and never return.

>> No.3916106

>>3915451
>>3915473
define magnetic, define polar. lets look at a single water molocule existing in a vacum.

>> No.3916112

Seagulls are actually lizard men

lol so randum kawai desu ~

>> No.3916114

>>3916112
>seagull

no such species

>> No.3916127

>>3916001
You're religious, aren't you?

>> No.3916129

>>3915933
The phrase you are looking for is category error.

but there is no raisin that we can't sometime soon sense those spectra.

>> No.3916139

OK, here it comes:

You can actually see x-rays with your eye.
No shit! Look it up.

>> No.3916141

>>3916081
That paper is wrong. The author claims that the error was carrying out the calculations in the frame of the ground rather than in the frame of a GPS satellite. This is just a guess; the actual reference frame used for the calculations wasn't specified in the OPERA paper. And he's wrong; it doesn't matter what frame of reference you work in, as long as you're consistent. According to special relativity, the two 30-ns "errors" he identifies due to calculating in the wrong frame cancel each other out rather than adding together to get 60 ns.

>> No.3916146

>>3916141
what paper?

Those are magazine articles.

>> No.3916150

>>3916146
The one the magazine articles are talking about:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.2685

>> No.3916157

>>3916139
Yes, but after reading it, it's clear that putting yourself in the position to see the effect is a very bad idea. The guy was just shooting x-rays at his eyes.

>> No.3916169

>>3916150
>We end this short letter by suggesting an analysis of the experimental data which would illustrate the effects described.
>We end this short letter by suggesting an analysis of the experimental data
>short letter
>suggesting analysis

it's not a paper. It's a letter.

>> No.3916175

If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe

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>>3915451
>colors don't actually exist

Yeah, I knew about this. But it's kinda sad if you think about it...

>> No.3916207

>>3915464

Really, why?

>> No.3916214

>>3915488
>>3915481

I really need to check my chemistry book again T_T

>> No.3916223

If "magnetic" includes diamagnetic, paramagnetic, and ferromagnetic materials then almost everything is magnetic.

>> No.3916242

>>3916175

why?

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>>3916207
>>3916242
>I'm 4 (in my "why" phase) and WHY is this?

>> No.3916277

>>3916266

So now I'm not allowed to ask why because I look like a kid?
Okay!

>> No.3916281

>>3916277
Science is not concerned about the why, only the how and what. If you want to know why go join a philosophy forum.

>> No.3916324

Water can act as an acid or a base to itself.

The idea of a single electron causing a wave interference pattern with itself, spawned two ideas for a possible solution. That the electron could exist in two states, simultaneously, thus allowing for it to interfere with itself. Or that the electron exists in two universe, in one universe the electron has the opposite spin of the other universe. The former idea is called super-positioning.

There exists something called negative kelvin. It's when a system - because of a state flip of its components - is able to accept energy from any other system.

Di-positronium has been made. It is basically a anti-matter equivalent to Helium. Due to how parity works, it does not have the same mass as a helium atom.

>> No.3916325

>>3916281

how and what are you here?

>> No.3916328

>>3916325
Actually that is one (two) of the questions science can meaningfully answer. Just, not now. It will take time to collate all evidence and validate it.

>> No.3916335

You are now aware that all of the physical objects you think make up your world are simply different configurations of energy. Your brain has evolved to create the world as you know it, converting the raw information into something more pleasing to you.

>> No.3916337

The event of lightning can create anti-matter.

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You know that when light is energy, right? OK. And he [Einstein] gave us the theory that energy equals mass times the speed of light. E=mc^2. OK. If we take that formula, and we think that there's a lot of mass, right? OK. If you collapse all the mass down into the universe, so that there is no space between the mass, do you know how much mass there is in the entire universe? You think you're a lot of mass, right?... Well, the whole universal mass can be consolidated down into the size of a bowling ball. That's all there is in the whole universe. So, how much mass are you? That's right, an infinitesimal amount. So if you take that formula, E=mc^2, you can almost cross out mass. So the formula ends up being "energy = the speed of light."

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>>3916342
>the whole universal mass can be consolidated down into the size of a bowling ball

You just blew my fucking mind.

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>>3916335
You are now aware that you are retarded.

>> No.3916385

>>3916370
Howso?

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>>3915554

>> No.3916403

>>3915451

Color.

We don't even know how colors are constructed by the brain. How is it possible to convert the frequency of the wavelength to something which is not explainable?

>> No.3916408

Read some physics of vision. It is explainable but just too complex. People are already working on recording visual data electronically directly from your brain.

>> No.3916410

>>3916342
Bullshit.

If you collapsed all the weight of the sun alone it would be 3km. The observable universe would be about 10billion light years.

>> No.3916418

Fuck i want cake NOW!!

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>>3916410
You must be like one of those scientists who didn't fall into Hahnemann's camp. That's why God sent us another Einstein called Steven Hawkings. Steven Hawkings gave us the string theory. It says that everything is made of little vibrating U-eys. And since the body is so well designed, it has both light receptors, eyes, and string -- vibratory receptors, ears.

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Glass is a very slow-flowing liquid.

>> No.3916444

>>3916422
What kind of receptors are the other senses?

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>>3916444
I don't know, but I'm really mad at my neighbor's dog.

>> No.3916463

>>3916410
I think he means removing all the empty space at the atomic level, so electrons and neutrons and protons are all just smushed together with no empty space.

Considering that most atoms are empty space this would reduce an extremely significant amount of the universe's apparent mass.

>> No.3916468

Pulsars are pretty awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuyA3zaiNg

>> No.3916470

>>3916463
Why don't you just listen to exactly actually how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0c5yClip4o

>> No.3916478

>>3915615
no they dont

>> No.3916479

>>3916410
You're confusing an event horizon with a singularity.

>> No.3916481

>(Put simply, how you perceive the different wavelengths of the visible light spectrum is merely a construct of your brain.)

This is why I hate atheists. If it isn't a number they deny it exists.

>> No.3916516

BUT IF COLORS DON'T EXITS THEN DOES LIGHT EXIST?

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>>3915539
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa???!!!!!

>> No.3916524

>>3916481
What?

>> No.3916526

>>3916242
In this quote, the phrase "from scratch" is being taken to the extreme, as in the atoms that go into it. We can only get the atoms that go into an apple pie (and essentially every atom that isn't hydrogen or helium) through a sun supernova. How do we get suns? The big Bang. The quote is designed to get you to think about how we are connected to the universe, it is from a documentary called Cosmos by Carl Sagan

>> No.3916546

>>3916481

No, stop being retarded. Everybody who thinks colors don't exist are retarded.

>> No.3916568

>>3916546
You think you can see your whole computer screen clearly, but if you fix your eyes on one point, you'll see you can't read anything but the words right at that point. The idea that you can see the rest of the screen clearly is an illusion.

Therefore color, beliefs, will, and consciousness could all be illusions, too.

>> No.3916572

>>3916546
Everybody who doesn't share the same opinions on unanswerable philosophical questions with you is retarded.

>> No.3916681

>>3916572
No, you take your skepticism too far. We define what colors are and those colors have real, physical representations in the em spectrum. Stop this pseudo intellectual hand wank.