/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.3911770]

maybe the reason we haven't found a 'cure' for AIDS is that HIV isn't the cause of AIDS

[Anonymous No.3911776]

we're not trying to cure AIDS, we want to cure fucking HIV.

[Photon !g2Boson6mM No.3911782]

>>3911776
You don't cure a virus. You develop a vaccine for that virus to stop the spread of the disease associated with that virus.
>>3911770
HIV causes AIDS. Spend 30s on Google and you'll find that out.

[Anonymous No.3911784]

we have found some pretty good treatments based on HIV causing AIDS.

so maybe not.

[Anonymous No.3911788]

You're asking why they haven't found a cure that affects drug users, gay people and poor promiscuous people?

[Anonymous No.3911792]

HIV is just a passenger virus. And anyway; retroviruses can't do what is claimed of HIV, largely because a retrovirus wouldn't last very long if it killed its host before it could propagate. Also, HIV has not been found in some patients exhibiting the symptoms of AIDS, since AIDS is just a broad spectrum of around 30 or so diseases caused by other agents as Cytomegalovirus that ARE NOT HIV.

[Anonymous No.3911807]

>>3911782
Too have too much faith in google.

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/aids/cause/index.htm

1. The appearance of AIDS in the USA and Europe coincided with the introduction of crack cocaine, the use of alkyl nitrites by homosexuals to enhance anal sex, and the approval of glucocorticoid aerosol use to treat inflammation of respiratory systems in 1976.

2. AIDS in drug users and homosexuals in the USA and in Europe results from heavy ancillary use of glucocorticoids and other immunosuppressive agents. Physicians prescribe these drugs to treat a wide range of chronic illnesses of the respiratory and gastrointestinal systems, and other organs.

3. AIDS in hemophiliacs relates to the use of corticosteroids and other immunosuppressive agents to prevent the development of antibodies for factors VIII and IX, and used to treat other chronic illnesses such as joint disease.

Think before you derp.

[Photon !g2Boson6mM No.3911821]

>>3911807
>1.
HIV spreads mostly through promiscuity. Amyl nitrates (poppers) increase the amount of unprotected sex, hence the rate of infection.
>2.
I need a citation for this.
>3.
Again, citation.
I have access to a few medical journals, so even citations of academic articles would work.

[Sciontist !t73JkdmVlQ No.3911830]

The evidence that HIV causes AIDS is completely overwhelming and beyond the point of rational skepticism. HIV/AIDS denialism has been responsible for an extremely large number of preventable deaths and infections. Many AIDS denialists are motivated by religious or political views, I.E. non-rational and non-scientific beliefs that are not supported by available peer-reviewed evidence.

Here are some links about the overwhelming evidence that HIV causes AIDS, and the proof that AIDS denialism is pseudoscience:
>AIDS Denial is Pseudoscience
http://www.physics.smu.edu/pseudo/AIDS/
>Websites that refute AIDS denialists
http://www.aidstruth.org/science/anti_denialism_sites
>List of AIDS denialists that died of the disease
http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/denialists/dead_denialists

>why so srs?
I know that there will probably be a lot of trolling and homophobia in relation to this topic, but AIDS denialism is something that should be taken very seriously and is probably about as anti-science as you can get. It's one thing that I do feel passionately about.

[Anonymous No.3911834]

>>3911788
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98fBiOVEcyI

[Anonymous No.3911837]

>>3911821
The citation is google, derp.

[Anonymous No.3911843]

>mfw people actually think AIDS isn't caused by HIV and aren't trolling

[Photon !g2Boson6mM No.3911842]

>>3911837
>Accusations of having too much faith in Google.
>Cites Google.

[Sciontist !t73JkdmVlQ No.3911848]

>>3911807
These are all things that were disproven as much as 20 years ago. Drugs do not cause AIDS- drug use is a common manner of HIV infection, as well as unprotected sex. The screening of donated blood for HIV has virtually wiped out infections via transfusions- that alone is almost irrefutable evidence that HIV causes AIDS, and is spread by contact with contaminated bodily fluids. Many hemophiliacs died as a result of coming into contact with these contaminated blood products in the early years of the crisis, but when such blood products began to be screened for HIV, the infections stopped almost instantly.

[Photon !g2Boson6mM No.3911857]

>>3911848
>>3911807
Told level:
[] Told
[] Not Told
[] Mega Told
[] Combo Told
[x] Knights of The Told Republic

[Anonymous No.3911866]

>>3911842
Are you a moron? Try reading the references. Start here: >>3911782
Realize, the point was GOOGLE, is not the answer to questions if you're too stupid, as you apparently are, to understand information.

[Anonymous No.3911872]

>>3911857
Oh, my fuck.

You don't even realize that you were the one being told.

This is why the world is in ruins.

Look, google: http://www.google.com/search?gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=aids+causes

Now, tell me, how many of those google hits are real and which are derp that you seem to be clueless about realizing in your 'search google for 30s' answer of a clap trap

[Anonymous No.3911877]

don't you dare.

[Anonymous No.3911893]

maybe the reason we haven't found a 'cure' for cancer is that cancer isn't real

[Anonymous No.3911897]

>>3911770

[Anonymous No.3911899]

maybe the reason we haven't found a 'cure' for faggotry is because the OP is a faggot.

[Anonymous No.3911918]

>>3911792
>retroviruses can't do what is claimed of HIV, largely because a retrovirus wouldn't last very long if it killed its host before it could propagate.
it doesn't though. it takes years to kill its host

>Also, HIV has not been found in some patients exhibiting the symptoms of AIDS, since AIDS is just a broad spectrum of around 30 or so diseases caused by other agents as Cytomegalovirus that ARE NOT HIV.
anything suppressing the immune system is likely to cause AIDS like symptoms. this does not mean HIV doesn't cause AIDS. similarly to how the fact that a baseball bat to your face causes trauma doesn't mean iron bars to the face don't cause trauma.

your arguments are childish

[Anonymous No.3911934]

>>3911782
>search google for answer
>>3911842
>don't cite google for answer


Derp much tRipfag?

[Anonymous No.3911969]

2/10 OP