Evolution relies entirely on random chance, but Einstein said that God didn't play with dice. So who was right, the atheist Darwin or Einstein who believed in intelligent design??

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Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 19:53:05 2011 No.3898196 [Reply] [Original]

Evolution relies entirely on random chance, but Einstein said that God didn't play with dice. So who was right, the atheist Darwin or Einstein who believed in intelligent design??

>>	Marion Bartoli is my Waifu Thu Oct 13 19:56:05 2011 No.3898225 > Evolution relies entirely on random chance found your problem

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:01:05 2011 No.3898257 >implying the universe of the tiniest and most fundamental level isn't reliant on probability.

>>	Marion Bartoli is my Waifu Thu Oct 13 20:04:05 2011 No.3898268 >>3898257 > implying the theory of evolution is a theory of the universe

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:09:05 2011 No.3898298 Einstein was talking about quantum physics when he said that. He said that there was not merely probability, but a universal law, just like gravity.

Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 20:09:05 2011 No.3898299

LAWS OF SCIENCE
>LIFE CANNOT COME FROM NON LIFE
>THERE IS NOT ONE CASE OF A MAMMAL OBTAINING NEW GENETICS OUT OF THIN AIR.

Macroevolution says otherwise. Macroevolution is not science because it contradicts science. Science experiments trying to prove macroevolution and the big bang by constructing things together completely contradicts evolution.

Majority of evolutionists believe evolution is random. If it wasn't there is an intelligent designer behind it. God. By creating instances by manipulating cells and DNA, they are playing god/intelligent designer.

If evolution is true and we are nothing but cells,
>we have no free will
>everything we do is predetermined
>we are acting the way we are supposed.

I don't even need to begin to get into this. There is absolutely no empirical evidence of evolution. Macroevolution requires more faith than God.

Einstein believed in intelligent design, why don't you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:13:05 2011 No.3898320 >>3898299 >OBTAINING NEW GENETICS My fucking sides

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:13:05 2011 No.3898322 >>3898299 Because you're an idiot and we've explained this to you a thousand times. Fuck off, you disingenuous troll.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:17:05 2011 No.3898341 >>3898299 if no " new genetics" happen... then how about cancer?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:19:05 2011 No.3898358 EINSTEIN DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS NEE TO BE REITERATED ON /SCI GOOGLE IT PLEASE YES I MAD

Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 20:22:05 2011 No.3898375

>>3898358
"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views."
If that doesn't mean he believed in intelligent design, than what does?

>>	Marion Bartoli is my Waifu Thu Oct 13 20:23:05 2011 No.3898379 >>3898375 How about a quote where he says, "I believe in intelligent design?"

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:24:05 2011 No.3898386 >>3898375 "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly."

Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 20:24:05 2011 No.3898388

>>3898379
"I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God."
He believed god intelligently designed the universe

>>	Krakengineer !!5XY+x7grkpt Thu Oct 13 20:24:05 2011 No.3898385 >>3898196 >> Evolution relies entirely on random chance, No. Natural selection is not random. >>Einstein said that God didn't play with dice. He was talking poetically about quantum mechanics and he was wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:24:05 2011 No.3898384 >>3898299 >>THERE IS NOT ONE CASE OF A MAMMAL OBTAINING NEW GENETICS OUT OF THIN AIR. >mfw transposon footprints >mfw viral insertions >mfw you're trolling or don't know what I'm talking about

Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 20:30:05 2011 No.3898410

i don't blame you kids for believing in evolution; you've only been spoon-fed it your entire government school run lives, and taught to immediately dismiss any evidence to the contrary.

look at all the evidence. the evidence presented in this thread took 5 minutes to refute. no, it's not a walking whale, it's a dinosaur. no, that fish didn't walk on its fins, it used them to hunt prey in the water. no, man and ape do not share a common ancestor, as there is no common ancestor, only the thought that there should be, if evolution is right.

it is not right. you have to have faith in it. it begs for your faith. you have to believe that the universe spontaneously generated itself somehow, or by gravity, and you have to believe you are the product of random chance.

so your life is meaningless, in that it only has the meaning you ascribe to it.

no loving God. no angels. no devil. no heaven. no hell. just a short, brief, painful life and then a dirt nap.

the universe does not operate like that, and no amount of belief in evolution will ever change God.

>>	sage sage Thu Oct 13 20:32:05 2011 No.3898416 File: 44 KB, 454x432, obvious-troll.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3898196 1) Einstein did not belive in intellegent design 2) Darwin was not an atheist 3) Darwin was right about evolution 4) My grandma can troll better then you 0/10

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:32:05 2011 No.3898417 i don't even know how an intellectually honest person can deny evolution. it's just something that makes sense. wanna survive in a cold climate? the babies born with more fur will be more likely to survive. shit like that. it's just so simple.

>>	Marion Bartoli is my Waifu Thu Oct 13 20:36:05 2011 No.3898431 File: 41 KB, 400x621, 001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3898417 > bumping a troll thread

>>	sage sage Thu Oct 13 20:36:05 2011 No.3898432 File: 63 KB, 470x600, troll 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3898196

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:38:05 2011 No.3898436 >>3898299 you dont even know who the fuck was Einstein huh ?

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:38:05 2011 No.3898439
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>>3898196
I love "greatrig" at the bottom. you can see as his mind collapses at just the thought of being insignificant in the face of nature. How dare we tell our children they weren't created as god's special little pets.

>mfw at yahoo answers in general

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:40:05 2011 No.3898446 >>3898299 wrong the Heisenberg uncertainty principal allows to have free will w/o a magical sky wizard

>>	Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 20:40:05 2011 No.3898447 >>3898416 >1) Einstein did not belive in intellegent design yes he did. Read the quotes in this thread

The worst being that it will probably be the least retarded post in this thread Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:41:05 2011 No.3898449
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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:42:05 2011 No.3898451 >darwin the atheist >Einstein believed in intelligent design Both of those are wrong

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:43:05 2011 No.3898456 >>3898410 why do you have to believe that your life is anything more than what you make it? what do you know about death?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:43:05 2011 No.3898458 >>3898299 It's like a shotgun af bad arguements. Troll? Troll!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 20:47:05 2011 No.3898476 File: 150 KB, 346x328, bully 'em.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cool troll thread, but observe my repeating integers!

Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 20:59:05 2011 No.3898528

Hey /sci/, if you could something to any major scientific figure, what would you say?
I would tell Charles Darwin "You are a wealthy man, you married a wealthy
woman, why don't you just live quietly out in the countryside and not
torture us with your half-baked suppositions, which have caused so
much misery?"
I think the world would be better off and 12 million people wouldn't have died in the evolutionists nazi death camps

>>	Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 22:00:05 2011 No.3898798 File: 65 KB, 500x437, monkeys.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:08:05 2011 No.3898832 >>3898196 >So who w̶a̶s̶ ̶r̶i̶g̶h̶t̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶a̶t̶h̶e̶i̶s̶t̶ ̶D̶a̶r̶w̶i̶n̶ ̶o̶r̶ ̶E̶i̶n̶s̶t̶e̶i̶n̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶l̶i̶e̶v̶e̶d̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶e̶l̶l̶i̶g̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶d̶e̶s̶i̶g̶n̶?? So who cares? Fixed that for you.

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:20:05 2011 No.3898880
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>>3898299
notsureiftrollorjustFUCKINGRETARDED.jpg

life can come from non-life. it took hundreds of millions of years, but eventually RNA, proteins, and other components for life formed, then cells, then more complex organisms, and so on, until those life forms began to grow on land, then conscious life forms, billions of years later, until you have us, with life forms as smart as albert einstein and ones as dumb as OP.
>life can come from non-life
>OH WE'RE USING CAPS? OK
>THE ANIMALS DON'T GET NEW GENETICS, THEY MUTATE AND THE BETTER MUTATIONS SURVIVE AND REPRODUCE MORE
>THAT'S NOT WHAT EINSTEIN MEANT WHEN HE SAID GOD DOESN'T PLAY DICE, HE DISAGREED WITH QUANTUM MECHANICS
>INTELLIGENT DESIGN IS AN EXAMPLE OF FALSE ANALOGY
>AGAIN, YOU'RE FUCKING RETARDED, NEVER POST AGAIN
>I'M MAD, FUCK YOU
__________
>"we have no free will"
yes, we do, technically, according to quantum mechanics. our actions are not predetermined, and tiny little differences happening in our brain can translate to the macro-world
______
>"there is no empirical evidence of evolution"
okay, you're trolling, you have to be. even christians aren't this stupid. there is. drop life forms in a completely exotic environment, and within 5-10 generations there will be sufficient evidence of evolution.

i believe in skepticism, but only when that skepticism has a basis in logic and science. you're being skeptic simply because you still believe in the things your parents told you when you were young.
>fuck you, seriously, i'm gonna go full aspie mode if you don't livestream becoming an hero in the next ten minutes

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:24:05 2011 No.3898896 >>3898880 >Not sure if troll Really? We've had this thread seventeen times now. Can't you leave it alone?

Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 22:26:05 2011 No.3898908

>>3898880
>life can come from non-life. it took hundreds of millions of years, but eventually RNA, proteins, and other components for life formed, then cells, then more complex organisms, and so on, until those life forms began to grow on land, then conscious life forms, billions of years later, until you have us, with life forms as smart as albert einstein and ones as dumb as OP.
>Citation needed
The Urey Miller expirement was a failure by the way

>>	Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 22:27:05 2011 No.3898912 File: 1.45 MB, 471x4974, evolutionthouroughlydebunked.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Evolutionist please read this comic!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:28:05 2011 No.3898919 File: 49 KB, 548x398, 1318489042407.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3898299 you are a feisty little troll :3

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:28:05 2011 No.3898921 Quick check: Has anyone tried reporting this dick? B&, anyone?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:29:05 2011 No.3898924 >>3898908 yeah but life on planet earth was a success. also, boring username. "Theory is Speculation". 1. Learn what a scientific theory is 2. Theory of Gravity, Theory of Electromagnetism, Theory of IJizzedOnYourMomsFace, etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:31:05 2011 No.3898934 >>3898912 you're such a fucking faggot. Go molest little boys, faggot.

Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 22:35:05 2011 No.3898952

>>3898924
1590s, "conception, mental scheme," from L.L. theoria (Jerome), from Gk. theoria "contemplation, speculation, a looking at, things looked at," from theorein "to consider, speculate, look at," from theoros "spectator," from thea "a view" + horan "to see"

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:36:05 2011 No.3898954 >>3898196 Christianity is just a theory (a guess).

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:38:05 2011 No.3898960 >>3898952 I said "learn what a scientific theory is". Not define the word "theory" using archaic latin and greek definitions. By the way, what you just did is the exact type of [non]argument the christfag in your comic uses to "discredit" science.

>>	Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 22:38:05 2011 No.3898961 >>3898934 you sure are mad. Maybe because I'm right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:41:05 2011 No.3898973 >>3898912 crazy, man

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:44:05 2011 No.3898992 >If protons are positive and neutrons are neutral, why don't atoms fly apart? Science can't answer that I'm laughing so hard please stop.

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:46:05 2011 No.3898996

>>3898988
LOL! I missed that little gem. This is what christfags do, they are unaware of even basic principles (strong force), and use those as "proof".

Christfag: I didn't know you couldn't drive through a red light! That's proof that I am innocent!

>>3898912
you sir are a truly sad, misinformed, stupid individual. And I mean that in the most sincere sense of each adjective.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:46:05 2011 No.3898999 >>3898410 >being human >pretending to understand something as ridiculously vast an incomprehensible as the universe yah nah, you're a cunt

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:49:05 2011 No.3899006 >>3898798 oh look! Christians not being logical!

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:49:05 2011 No.3899007

>>3898912
With no proof.
>>3898528
>HURRR JEWS!
In reality, Hitler was a Catholic.
Besides, the massacre of Jews wasn't because anyone was an Atheist, but because Hitler wanted to pin the problems that faced Germany on a minority, much like how the Religious Right blames 'Punks' or 'Gangsters.'

BUT, a Theory is created by recreating the results of an experiment over and over. You are calling a theory a hypothesis.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:51:05 2011 No.3899013 >>3898908 >Miller had a few years of experiments >Earth had a few billion

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:52:05 2011 No.3899014 >>3898388 Ever heard of deism?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:53:05 2011 No.3899017 >>3899007 Hitler maybe raised Christian, but he certainly wasn't one during his reign, his and the Nazi's belief at the time were more in line with Paganism. He was a monotheist though.

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:56:05 2011 No.3899030

>>3898798
if the iphone4 evolved from the iphone3GS, why are there still iphone3GS? if C++ evolved from C, why is there still C? If life evolved from bacteria, why are there still bacteria? If Raichu evolved from Pikachu, why are there still Pikachu? If heavy metal evolved from rock, why is there still rock? If Rock evolved from blues/jazz, why is there still blues/jazz?

YOU ARE SUCH A DUMB FAGGOT.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 22:57:05 2011 No.3899031 File: 34 KB, 500x341, NaziPriestsSaluteHitler.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3899017 Yeah, but he used a blessing from the Catholic Church to push propaganda. Not only that, but

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 23:02:05 2011 No.3899049 >>3899031 That doesn't make him religious, just using religion to front his agenda.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 23:03:05 2011 No.3899051 >>3899049 spoken like a true christian apologist.

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 23:04:05 2011 No.3899053

>>3899030
>If heavy metal evolved from rock, why is there still rock?
This is a better work of your argument, bro.
You see, rock is much different today than when Black Sabbath got together. Does The White Stripes sound like The Doors? Of course not, but they're still rock.

Much like monkeys and men. Just because men have been evolved, doesn't mean that the apes didn't branch from men and evolve into gorillas, chimps and baboons.

Also, macro-evolution has happened. It's called cauliflower. You see, cauliflower has been bred into creation after Columbus found the New World.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 23:05:05 2011 No.3899056 >>3899051 Now you're just using a sloppy ad hominem against an atheist...

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 23:05:05 2011 No.3899058

every christian who engages in violence or propagates an agenda or is just a piece of shit, filth scum human being isn't REALLY christian! Just manipulating christianity to push their beliefs!

Oh, but you know those muslims, they really believe in violence and shit. Not anything like christianity. Muhammad was a pedophile too. Fuck islam!

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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 23:07:05 2011 No.3899066 >>3899053 well said sir. Although I still think my "If Raichu evolved from Pikachu, WHY STILL PIKACHU?!" says it more succinctly than anything :p

>>	sage Anonymous Thu Oct 13 23:29:05 2011 No.3899174 >>3898196 God doesn't play with dice. God plays with dice that will always land and give results. Maybe the next generated universe will have non-chemical life on it. sage.

>>	Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 23:34:05 2011 No.3899193 >>3899031 Hitler was not a christian and he and the other nazis were millitant homosexuals. Read The Pink Swatstika

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 23:42:05 2011 No.3899235 >>3898196 >areyoufuckingkiddingme.jpeg 3/10 'cause you managed to get people to actually respond

>>	Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Thu Oct 13 23:50:05 2011 No.3899276 Bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 23:56:05 2011 No.3899295 >>3898908 no it wasn't it still produced amino acids on the first go the second try produced amino acids, protein, and a chemical for RNA if it "failed" it wouldn't have proved anything

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 00:03:05 2011 No.3899321 >>3899193 What bullshit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_homosexuals_in_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Holocaust Yeah, it's wikipedia. Sue me.

>>	Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Fri Oct 14 00:15:05 2011 No.3899363 >>3899321 Read was Conservapedia has to say on it

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 00:17:05 2011 No.3899370 >>3899363 Which by that title implies bias. Not only that, but conservatives bashing fascists? It's like Greens bashing Communists.

>>	Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Fri Oct 14 00:22:05 2011 No.3899387 >>3899370 Hitler was for big government, he was a liberal

>>	& !!tSqR6hj9NpI Fri Oct 14 00:32:05 2011 No.3899418 >>3899387 Except "Liberal" implies "Liberalistic ideas" which implies "Equal rights"

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 00:33:05 2011 No.3899424 >>3899387 Did you sleep through history class? Registering on the political spectrum, Adof Hitler was a Fascist, and on the political spectrum, Fascism is Authoritarian Right/Economic Right. I'm left, and I disagree with a lot of his policies.

>>	Scientist !!ThFjnJh4EkH Fri Oct 14 00:33:05 2011 No.3899425 >>3898196 Have fun spamming that shit?

>>	Scientist !!ThFjnJh4EkH Fri Oct 14 00:34:05 2011 No.3899429 >>3899424 >Using a 2 axis system for classifying political ideas. Sure is retarded in here. You can be a "right" fascist like Hitler (?), and you can be a left fascist like Chavez.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 00:38:05 2011 No.3899442 >>3899429 Than what do you use?

>>	Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Fri Oct 14 00:44:05 2011 No.3899468 File: 109 KB, 1076x610, exobanned.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why are the mods such nazis about critiquing evolution if they have nothing to hide?

Scientist !!ThFjnJh4EkH Fri Oct 14 00:45:05 2011 No.3899470

>>3899442
Dunno. Popular political parties are useful. Unfortunately I lack a concise way to describe my political views because I don't fit nicely on that chart. It's obnoxious.

In short, I believe that we should avoid the worst possible suffering for everyone, and moreover that we should try to avoid needless human suffering. Anyone who disagrees is a psychopath or lying to themself or deluded.

Thus, there are right and wrong answers to questions of public policy. The difficult part is that we lack perfect knowledge of the efficacy of plans.

My beliefs are thus focused on promoting human happiness and human well being.

In short, I'm a capitalism when it works, and a socialist when it doesn't, such as when there are externalities, free rider problems, tragedy of the commons, lack of perfect information amongst the populace, differing time horizons of the populace, deviations from perfect rationality in the populace, and so on.

I support individual gun rights because I believe that will lead to better human happiness by promoting a culture of the government is subservient to the people.

I support very unrestrained freedom of speech because I believe that the harm of hearing something "offensive" is marginal, and to use laws to prevent it is too open to abuse and any practical system will do far more harm than good.

to be continued

Scientist !!ThFjnJh4EkH Fri Oct 14 00:45:05 2011 No.3899473

>>3899470

I believe that private property is a means to an ends and not an ends unto itself. I believe that it's an ends to a happy populace. To that end, I believe that absurdly rich people have little moral claim to most of their private property. Remember, private property is finite, so if someone has a shitton of property going to waste, that is doing me demonstrable harm because they are denying my enjoyment of the property. I support capitalism because it's the most effective way we have to generate material wealth, not because I morally support people becoming filthy rich. I also believe that unrestrained collection of wealth in a small number of hands destabilizes the government and can lead to tyranny.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 00:50:12 2011 No.3899484 >>3899468 i didn't grasp any of this was the mod talking to himself in the report box description they fill out? sage because of 'evolution is just a thoery, a gauss"

>>	Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Fri Oct 14 00:51:56 2011 No.3899489 >>3899484 He was quoting that user's appeal with the bear/bare part

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 00:51:56 2011 No.3899491 OH LOOK THIS THREAD AGAIN.

>>	Theory is Speculation !!MdLGm3ji380 Fri Oct 14 01:20:40 2011 No.3899621 >>3899491 I'll make this thread every day if I have to

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 01:26:14 2011 No.3899646

>>3899468
As for this, it would be me reporting you. Again, and again.

Why? I can hear you start to scream in false self-righteousness. Easy. In the rules, no religion vs. science threads. You consistently make it about that very subject and for that are worthy of a ban.

If not only that, you refuse to even use this board seriously, denying or blatantly making false several things to keep your ass of a show going.

And yes, I'm reporting you again.

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 01:31:01 2011 No.3899682

Atheism is not a religion. It is a lack of faith. A lack of faith is not faith. Not collecting stamps is not a hobby. Atheism is not the Big Bang theory and it is not the theory of Evolution. Science is not a religion, it is a method for discovering new knowledge. Atheism is only a religion in the same way that not believing is Santa Clause is also a religion. If everything you don't believe in is considered a religion then there are an infinite amount of religions. The burden of proof lies on people claiming that a god exists. There is no purpose for our existence, only causes. Morality is independent of religion. Actions done under the belief that punishment awaits are impure. "Good" and "bad" are only human perceptions.
Religion is the epitome of ignorance, it is a deadly ignorance. It is an abomination and insult to reason. It is a political tool used to manipulate large populations. It is a security blanket for those that fear death. It is a cheap answer to questions that science cannot at this time explain. It is the result of a lack of information. Religion is holding mankind from it's potential. Religion tries to cheapen the natural beauty of the universe and replaces it with ugly lies.
Religion continues to exist because of tradition, early indoctrination and an emotional response to deny the coldness of reality. Once indoctrinated the believer becomes loyal to his religion. Because he has invested so much of his life/time and emotion into his religion he becomes openly hostile to people that question his faith. He responds with anger and emotion instead of curiousity. He is unable to look critically at his beliefs. Religious people are feelers. They believe in their religion because they WANT it to be true. They are our lost brothers and sisters. They live a life wasted in ignorance.

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