Classical Conditioning Suggestions!

[ANON69 No.3883858]

Hey /sci/!
I've got myself a Long Evans rat and a "Skinner Box" conditioning chamber this quarter. My final project is to condition my rat (Lorenzo) to do whatever. I've been assigned to look up A.P.A. behavioral research and come up with an experiment I'd like to do.

My guidelines are the following:
*I am not to use any negative reinforcement, so no shocking Lorenzo or anything

*Lorenzo is given 3 minutes of water per day (except Friday/Saturdays) so that he's thirsty thus allowing me to use the water as reinforcer of behavior

*I am to teach it to "bar press" in the skinner box to get water everytime he presses the lever

*Right now we're in the process of shaping the behavior of bar-pressing, he eventually is gonna learn to press the lever 10 times to get one single drink of water per cycle.

I welcome your ideas!! what should i do?!, I thought about taking advantage of their superior auditory system or something like that...

thank you for your time and interest!

also,
inb4 possible negative trolling

[Anonymous No.3883868]

Why no negative reinforcement? Serious question. You're destroying this creatures psychology, don't tell me its an ethical reason.

[ANON69 No.3883863]

>>3883858
this is what he looks like, just for the lulz

[Anonymous No.3883869]

did you ever look up operant conditoning on elvisier or g.scholar? it shows how to do everything step by step

[ANON69 No.3883878]

>>3883868
it's not up to me to choose... my proffesor told us a story about some guy who took the class before that stole all the rats and set them free out in nature. They pretty much are lab-raised rats, and throwing them out in their natural habitat was a death sentence and got eaten by owls or died

now, at the end of the quarter we get to either give it to a shop so they can be bought or sold for feeder i guess or i get to take it home, i'm taking mine home.

[Anonymous No.3883889]

dont wanna be the libfag but dude this seems kinda immoral

[ANON69 No.3883890]

>>3883869
thanks anon, school provides me with a better source actually, i'm just here for an idea and then i can go look up some stuff along the lines of it. Perhaps i should wait and look up something on my own and THEN bring it here and ask for suggestions, lets see how this goes now though

[ANON69 No.3883895]

>>3883889
yeah dude, i feel kinda bad to be honest but theer's not much i can do and my grade is important. The rats we're given are kept super happy, we get to hold them while in class and have the choice to take them home for the weekend. We make sure they are in healthy weight too. Im not trying to justify our deliberate depravation of water access at all but we're giving them a better ride than the rats at drug research labs or other shit

[Anonymous No.3883908]

I would use drug water.
So Lorenzo can access normal water without preforming a task but to get heroin water he must do a task.

[ANON69 No.3883910]

bump

[ANON69 No.3883913]

>>3883908
you're obiously trolling but this was actually mentioned by another dumbass in class, it's a no-go

[Anonymous No.3883917]

>>3883908
libfag here
do like this idea better, he may become a drug addict but at least hes not suffering + whens the last time you saw a rats life just completely ruined by drugs

[ANON69 No.3883922]

>>3883917
fucking drug companies straight up non-anesthesize a rat to assess the size of their induced cancer for research on anti-cancer drugs.

[ANON69 No.3883925]

>>3883922
non-anesthesize that is when they cut them open to see the cancer

[Anonymous No.3883924]

>>3883917>>3883913

obviously the idea dont use heroin but maybe like sugar water or something

[ANON69 No.3883929]

>>3883924
yeah, that'd be too simple though. I thought about simply teaching it to put a ball through a mini-basket hoop

[Anonymous No.3883931]

>>3883913
Ok so heroin is out- then use caffeine water, beer, or some flavoured water that he likes.

[Anonymous No.3883934]

Free the mouse!!! :C

[ANON69 No.3883935]

Going to bed now, i hope this thread is up tomorrow. If not, i'll repost if you wanna keep posted about my experiment. Thank you for your contributions /sci/!

[Anonymous No.3883941]

bump for interest

[libfag No.3883944]

yeh keep us informed interested in how it goes

[Anonymous No.3884282]

classical conditioning is boring as shit
instrumental is where it's at

[Anonymous No.3884298]

>No negative reinforcement

>Starve the Rat of water

Enjoy your F

[ANON69 No.3885049]

I'm back awake, just bumping for thread survival. Will reply again like in 6 hours after my exam

[ANON69 No.3885058]

>>3884298
you're a fucking dumbass, but Im not mad

[ANON69 No.3885067]

>>3884282
Operant, Classical, our choice

[ANON69 No.3885072]

bump

[Anonymous No.3885086]

animal cruelty.

I would fuck you up if I saw you.