Taking the Mensa exam

[Anonymous No.3871408]

Hello there, I have been invited to take the Mensa exam by a very intelligent women who thinks I am capable of passing and gaining admission to Mensa.

The test will cost me £17.50 (about $27 as of the 9Th of October 2011) however I will be taking an invigilated home test so I don't have to drive about 100k to the nearest test centre.

So, do you guys reckon it's a good idea? I'm terrified my score won't be sufficient though I only really want membership so I can put it on my CV.

Also, which test is best? The Progressive Matrices or the Stanford Binet?

TL;DR: Asked to take Mensa test, costs a fair amount of money, worried about failing. What do?

[Anonymous No.3871417]

Why are you even interested in joining a club with a bunch of circle-jerking social outcasts fapping to their Mensa diploma?

Go get a PhD at university if you really need to boast about your IQ

[I think I have schizophrenia !dEgrPz06hY No.3871418]

>implying you didn't google the answers to that test

[Anonymous No.3871421]

>$27
>costs a fair amount of money

any textbook costs twice as much

[Anonymous No.3871425]

Honestly, I don't think your Mensa material, you can't even use the correct 4chan board. >>>>>>/adv/

[Anonymous No.3871433]

>>3871425
you forgot a word after material

or you really need to learn the difference between you're and your

[Anonymous No.3871443]

Why do you want it on your CV? If I saw Mensa on someone's CV I would consider somewhat of a minus because it's fucking gay.

[Anonymous No.3871450]

Not looking to boast about my IQ. I think IQ and psychometrics in general are a bad representation of intelligence. Unfortunately, many schools and colleges in my vicinity take these tests very seriously. (got the pic from google)

[Anonymous No.3871459]

>I have been invited to take the mensa exam by someone with a financial incentive to convince people to take the mensa exam
good luck

[pascal !n5Z3VuZapw No.3871461]

>>3871443
around here they confuse it with nambla

it is best to leave off of a cv

[Anonymous No.3871470]

>Also, which test is best? The Progressive Matrices or the Stanford Binet?

ravens if you are autistic
stanford otherwise

[Anonymous No.3871484]

Stanford Binet has cultural bias since some questions depend on prior experience.

Raven's Progressive Matrices is 100% legitimate. Take that one.

[Anonymous No.3871491]

>>3871461
>NAMBLA

[Anonymous No.3871564]

>>3871433
yo sorry man, never claimed to be mensa material myself bro, no need to get so hostile man.

[Anonymous No.3871602]

>>3871408
>fair amount of money
No.
>terrified
Why?
Why would the thought of failure scare you? If you can't pass it, it's not like that's some scathing indictment of your intelligence. Most people can't.
And you probably can, honestly.

Just go for it and stop worrying, faggot.

[Anonymous No.3871604]

>>3871484
Cultural bias is only an issue if the test taker is from a different culture, which the OP, being from britain, is essentially not.

[Anonymous No.3871619]

Don't join Mensa. They're pathetically depressing.

[Anonymous No.3871623]

Real intelligent people that actually do things, don't join Mensa.

[Anonymous No.3871742]

MENSA is one reason you could use against eugenics.

>have high IQs, still be retarded.

[Anonymous No.3871751]

>>3871459
>>3871459


OP got sold some real handy snake oil

[Anonymous No.3871758]

>>3871619
For what it's worth, I've heard that Mensa members get handy discounts for car insurance and such.

[Anonymous No.3871779]

having a high IQ doesnt mean you're a genius. the only true form of a genius is a highly functioning autistic savant. watch this shit and try not to cringe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvUcs-BNWV0

[Anonymous No.3871810]

>>3871779
>>3871779
that video

>mr knowitall

[Anonymous No.3871817]

>>3871779
fuck fucking fuck fuck what the fuck how do you fuck fuck FUCK.

[Anonymous No.3871828]

>>3871408
>140++
>mensa level

I see what you did there...

[Anonymous No.3871840]

It's only a good idea if you like the idea of being given free money.

[Anonymous No.3871851]

Wow, a lot of subtle jealousy ITT. Take the test, OP. See if you are good enough. Do it faggot.

[Anonymous No.3871919]

>>3871779
>>3871779
>>3871779
>>3871779
>>3871779
>>3871779
FUUUCK!!!! FUCK FUCK FFF F FF FUCKK!

THEIR A BUNCH OF FAGGOTS!!

[Anonymous No.3873839]

Jeez, the people featured in that video seemed highly pretentious and somewhat up their own anal passages.

[Anonymous No.3873866]

My mom made me take Mensa entry test when I was younger.
Now the diploma is just hanging in the dining room.
I. Fucking. Hate it.
Don't join mensa. It doesn't have any benefit other than frolicking around with your mensa licence and shoving it up other people's anuses.

[Anonymous No.3873898]

>>3873866

Have you done anything substantial. ...or are you another case of the assumption that scoring high on an arbitrary test yields a superior life?

[Anonymous No.3873915]

>>3873898
No I don't. I only later realized how stupid it actually was.
I'm far more proud of my worthless 5th place diplomas from math olympiads in middle school.

[Anonymous No.3875387]

So, what's the verdict on Mensans?

[Anonymous No.3875399]

if I ever saw someone put fucking mensa on their resume I would fucking throw that shit in the trash.

[Anonymous No.3875422]

chris langan


/thread

[Anonymous No.3875449]

what if the sun turned into a black hole? would we get sucked into it?

[Anonymous No.3875456]

> Join MENSA
> Fap at how intelligent you are.
>Get a desk job.
> Die without contributing to the development of society as much as a manual day laborer.
>"I am superior!"

[Anonymous No.3875458]

>>3871408
I took an administered Mensa test recently. It was progressive matrices, don't remember the exact test type. Pure matrices anyway. It was 45 problems in 20 minutes.

Also, don't put Mensa on your CV. A lot of people are very hostile towards the idea of measurable intelligence. They find it offending. The general public does not understand what fluid and crystallized intelligence is, and most likely neither will anyone looking at your CV. A pity, but that's how it is.

Intelligence and IQ is a taboo in our society. If you decide to join Mensa, I'd recommend you keep it to yourself. As I said, most people are very hostile.

[Anonymous No.3875459]

It's fucking retarded. According to mensa's online test, I could have a chance of becoming a member, but pretty much everyone in there are immature, arrogant, smug pricks and you'll most likely lose respect from your peers by joining, not opposite.

[Anonymous No.3875460]

That org is a catch-22

People who are stupid enough to give Mensa money just to take a test are too stupid to join Mensa.

[Anonymous No.3875464]

>>3871779
>The number of stars on the US flag in an arbitrary year
>knowing how to identify poison ivy
>Trivia knowledge having anything to with intelligence
>mfw

I'm hoping the journalist was just not understanding something

[Anonymous No.3875491]

>>3871779
>what if sun turned into black hole
>fullretard.jpg

[Anonymous No.3875500]

>>3875464
so it seems to me that there's a lot of practical knowledge required.
and also verbal/quantitative/etc intelligence.
but they don't require a writing sample or anything, they don't test for creativity, which strikes me as odd.

[Anonymous No.3875535]

>>3875500
Its because their target is not specifically "the smartest people" but rather "people who want to be identified as the smartest people". By allowing the test to be something you can study for, the type of people who really want to get in will take the test perhaps multiple times, maybe paying someone to help them prepare for it, and thus mensa gets more money

[Anonymous No.3875560]

>>3875535
I don't know what the situation is in the US these days, but Mensa chapters in Europe, Scandinavia and most of Asia use only so called culture fair tests which consists solely of matrices. These type of tests measure fluid intelligence (the ability to understand complex relationships and solve novel problems) well.

The test can be taken only twice.

[Anonymous No.3875614]

>>3875535

Precisely why you see so many strange people. They have nothing else to feel good about.

The test apparently doesn't contain much that can't be memorized.

[Anonymous No.3875720]

I know myself well enough to know that I didn't put full effort in it, and I did the test in a relaxed state with music and food and whatever.
I can't help but to feel dissapointed somehow.

[Anonymous No.3875750]

>>3875720

If you know you're intelligent, never let one test invalidate all the experiences you've ever had.

[Anonymous No.3875761]

>>3875750
You're right. Thanks
Also, on the curious side: How legit is this test actually? It's quite popular but isn't it quite...one-sided?
It does test various things but it feels like the test misses something.

On a side note:
>>3871779
Jesus christ how horrifying.

[Anonymous No.3875776]

>>3875761
Don't give a shit about iqtest.dk. Last time I took that test I scored 143. Nevertheless, I almost dropped out of hs.

A number can't define you, your achievements define you

[Anonymous No.3875783]

>>3875776
That is true, but dropping out of high school is not really evidence that you don't have a high IQ. Performance in school/college and actual fluid intelligence are only very marginally correlated

[Anonymous No.3875791]

>>3875783
>>3875776
Academic succes depends alot on motivation and discipline.
And some subjects are simply memorization.

>>3875776
Thanks, that's some good insight you got there.

[Anonymous No.3875810]

>>3875761
iqtest.dk is the internet test of Danish Mensa. The official test uses similar problems, but of course has more of them and less time to solve them. If anything can be said from the result it is that you won't score higher in the official test.

[Anonymous No.3875881]

>>3875776
too bad your achievements are constrained by the number to a degree.

[Anonymous No.3875936]

>>3875491
>would we get sucked?
FUCK
YOU

[Anonymous No.3875943]

Also, the thing about the iqtest.dk thing is, it's based on the answers of other people who have taken the test.

I doubt very many stupid people are looking for ways to test and challenge themselves.

[Anonymous No.3875950]

>>3875943
Is that so?
That surely is interesting.
I imagine some people quitting 3/4 into the test because they found it too hard, only to justify it later to themselves.

[Anonymous No.3875952]

>>3871779
So it's supposed to impress me that people with jobs like a plumber have a high IQ? That's called wasted potential. I'll take a dumbass who works hard to contribute to society over some lazy,naturally gifted jackass who jerks off to his high score on some meaningless test. Those people piss me the fuck off. Don't join that shit OP.

[Anonymous No.3876007]

>>3875952
>naturally gifted
>meaningless test

So, which one is it?

[Anonymous No.3876084]

>>3875952

A high IQ is simply not an accurate predictor of success in life. This has been verified by decades long studies, not just the employment of people who scored well on the Mensa test.

The fact that they're not millionaire astronaut cowboy break dancers doesn't make them stupid... necessarily.

Having said that, these people sound and look like complete fucking tards. I have an EXTREMELY hard time believing even a small fraction of them have an IQ above 130. No legitimate IQ test would be so obviously culturally biased as to ask a question that necessitated knowing the number of stars on the American flag on some arbitrary year.

These people are good at memorizing things. Like those tards and their tard kids who think knowing 15 decimals of pi makes them a genius.

FUCK these people are annoying.

[Anonymous No.3876095]

>by a very intelligent women

let's hope grammar isn't on the test

[Anonymous No.3876121]

why did they put a bunch of shitting anuses in the background of that website

[Anonymous No.3876271]

>>3871408
Wow fuck... I got like 115 on that. I think I missed the last 10 at least.

WTF are you looking for at that point? I couldn't see any patterns in repetition, movement, addition, retention like fuck I couldn't see anything.

feelsbadman.jpg

[Anonymous No.3876508]

>>3876271
iknowthatfeel.jpg

[Anonymous No.3876540]

>go to /sci/
>eugenics threads laud IQ as the most perfect indication of intelligence ever, use it to prove the superiority of asian/white race
> MENSA/general IQ thread
>HERP DERP IQ IS MEANINGLESS NUMBER ONLY CIRCLE-JERK FAGGOTS USE IT
>mfw i don't have a face for it

[Anonymous No.3876567]

>>3876271

Some of them have the two lined figures being combined but with any lines that overlap disappearing from the combination.

The one with large circles with little circles either inside or outside the large circle meant for you to add small circles that were inside and subtract those that were outside. So if the first large circle has 1 little black cirlce inside and the second has 3 little black circles outside the third should have 2 little white circles outside because you have negative two. At least I think I'm explaining that correctly. That was the pattern I just might have mixed details somewhere.

The very last one everything is shifting to the right, and the symbols are changing. If I remember correctly, the triangles are changing into x's, the o's into triangles and the x's into o's. So everything shifts over one to the right and the symbols change. That's the pattern.

Sometimes there's an arrow pointing in one direction. That usually means the shape is being stretched in that direction.

The ones with circles, triangles and squares follow a top right to bottom left diagonal pattern such that the large shape that's in the middle of the top and the left of the middle is the one you have to choose plus the little shape inside it you can usually see the pattern for that more easily.

If you just relax and clear your mind you can usually see the pattern. Don't freak out. Just let your mind find the pattern and don't let it hang on the one it saw first if it's not right.

[Anonymous No.3878546]

Mensa is a circle-jerk and has never really accomplished anything. I qualified for Mensa, then looked up what is so good about paying to get into Mensa, and realized that there are literally no benefits.

Your employers would just feel threatened and it wouldn't help you get a job; grad schools honestly don't give a shit about your Mensa status (grades, MCAT, LSAT, etc. are way more important).

Better idea: fill your CV with ACTUAL accomplishments.

[Anonymous No.3878584]

>>3876540
Nobody likes niggers so it's easy to band on them and use IQ studies as halfhearted ammunition.

But when the subject of the discussion shifts to us, it's a different matter. We are the ones targeted. Suddenly everything is serious. Most of us are of average intelligence and feel threatened by the concept of IQ and the idea of measurable intelligence. "I'm not a number!" we shout, trying to reassure ourselves.

I believe a discussion about IQ could be possible here if we stuck to the definition of g-factor, fluid and crystallized intelligence and to discussing IQ tests themselves, not the people who take them. But alas, this is /sci/. Personal attacks are our daily bread.

[Anonymous No.3878754]

I didn't know it was possible, but the 133 IQ the mensa test gave me is actually higher than the IQ any random online one gave me, which usually averages out at 123-125.

I thought online tests were supposed to inflate your IQ?

[Anonymous No.3878773]

>>3878584
That's because of assholes that listen to televised Jewish crap about IQ tests instead of common sense.

[Anonymous No.3878779]

>>3878754

On the lower ends they can actually deflate your iq depending on the test.

Since most of the people taking IQ tests online are in the top 50 percent intelligence wise , if the test self-adjusts for the average then it's going to hurt your "true IQ"

On the other hand it can inflate scores on the upper margins since they tend not to have extremely hard questions for the upper margins and cap at 140-150.

[Anonymous No.3878781]

>>3878754
>I thought online tests were supposed to inflate your IQ?

No. They're just unreliable bullshit.

[Anonymous No.3878785]

>>3878754
No, Mensa tests are known to inflate IQ scores. They are often on the verge of bankruptcy and are struggling for money. They know most people who qualify will join and pay dues. So why not make that a little more possible by making the tests a bit easier?

If you want a legitimate test, go to a university psychology (yes, lol psychology) department and ask if you can schedule a test for a fee.

[Anonymous No.3878796]

GEORGE BUSH jr. IS A MEMBER OF MENSA.

Thread over.

[Anonymous No.3878805]

>>3878785
Or, you know, you can ignore this worthless crap and fucking study instead.

IQ is shit, psychology is shit, and people that believe in magic are shit.

[Anonymous No.3878811]

I will invent a drug or procedure to vastly increase intelligence.

Just you watch. This is my life's goal, because I believe intelligence is the one way to enhance the future of mankind. I also want this so that I myself can be much more intelligent than I am (IQ of 119).

If I fail, I will an hero. Seriously. You have my word, /sci/. If/when I do actually develop the intelligence booster, watch me drop the keyword "marble." That will be how you know a /sci/tard was behind it.

[Anonymous No.3878818]

>>3878811
just dont test your drug on any monkeys, James Franco

[Anonymous No.3878896]

>>3878785

eh, I already had an official percentile test applied to me in I believe grade 9 or 10, I think it was because I did fucking no work whatsoever and they wanted to figure out if I should be in one of the learning disability classes.

can't remember the exact score I got, but it was between 95 and 98 percentile; they basically told me to stop being a lazy piece of shit.

canadafag btw, failed grade 10 twice purely due to never doing the work. graduated with principals honours eventually then did not go to college. Took mostly applied classes despite them being brain numbingly easy and me getting 80's-90's in the academic classes I did take.

[Anonymous No.3879130]

>>3871779

Bunch of pencil neck nerds

[Anonymous No.3879148]

>>3878811
Are you familiar with dual N-back studies? If not, you might find them useful on your quest.

[Anonymous No.3879150]

shut the fuck up.

seriously, shut the fuck up. If I ever own a business and I see someone putting their "IQ" on their CV, I will make sure they never work with me.

and by the way, I'm not mad or jelly or something stupid like that, I'm a math major and hope to do a Ph.D.

[Anonymous No.3879171]

>>3879150
Why are you so offended by the idea of measurable intelligence?

[Anonymous No.3879198]

>>3879171
iq tests do not measure intelligence.
if you study iq tests, your score will improve dramatically.
however, you have not gotten smarter all of a sudden.

[Anonymous No.3879199]

>>3879171

Intelligence is measurable. The IQ tests currently do not measure intelligence.

[Anonymous No.3879203]

>>3879171
Psychology is a shitty measuring stick.

[Anonymous No.3879208]

>Minecraft
>scores high on IQ tests

coincidence?

[Anonymous No.3879211]

>>3879199
>>3879198

Do provide proof for your statements. I'm intrigued, for example, as to why you think matrices do not measure fluid intelligence when numerous studies show otherwise.

Present your facts.

[Anonymous No.3879221]

>>3879211
>GOD EXISTS

>PROVE ME WRONG

[Anonymous No.3879222]

>>3879171

You do know that spread is about 60 fucking IQ points, right? As in, the difference between a highly intelligent person and a retard?

[Anonymous No.3879225]

>>3879171

Why are blacks dumber than whites?

[Anonymous No.3879280]

>>3879221
IQ and intelligence can be studied empirically. If you have nothing concrete to back your statements with, then perhaps you should refrain from commenting on the matter.

If you do, however, have solid data to support your premise, then by all means do present them.

[Anonymous No.3879284]

>>3879280
>replies to a troll, misinterprets trolls point anyway.

Your're are an pathetic, needy troll.

[Anonymous No.3879294]

>>3879284
Ad hominem accomplishes nothing. All you have presented so far are opinions that you seem to be unable to support with any evidence.

[Anonymous No.3879315]

>>3879294
Your reply to my post did not prove me wrong, so god exists and you're a incomprehensible idiot.

[Anonymous No.3879323]

the only IQ test currently 'accepted' by anybody who matters (ie steven pinker) is the ravens IQ test, and it's wildly different from the shit that passes for IQ tests nowadays.

[Anonymous No.3879332]

>>3879323
Most European, Scandinavian and Asian Mensa chapters use pure matrix tests for that very reason.

[Anonymous No.3879333]

>mfw richard feynman had a 125 IQ
>mfw when he rediscovered major theorems of calculus independently as a teenager, and used his own notation

[Anonymous No.3879350]

>>3879333
Hard work > Jew-Q tests.

[Anonymous No.3879367]

>>3879333
I recommend you do a bit of background checking on that "Feynmann had an IQ of 125" statement.

As a partially unrelated note, expressing IQ as number without giving it any context---namely the standard deviation used---is quite meaningless.

[Anonymous No.3879370]

>>3879367
ok

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_feynman#Education

[Anonymous No.3879385]

>>3879370
Well, shit.

Work > implied brains.

[Anonymous No.3879389]

>>3879385
well honestly i believe it's both. my point is that most IQ tsting is bs.

[Anonymous No.3879396]

>>3879385

You are not getting the point.

The point is that IQ tests do not validly measure intelligence.

[Anonymous No.3879397]

>>3879370
>wikipedia

7/10

[Anonymous No.3879398]

>>3879389
>>3879396

Now that you both agree...

[Anonymous No.3879401]

>>3871779
>knowledge of american history = intelligence

[Anonymous No.3879410]

>>3879396

You cannot lump the wide variety of bogus and valid IQ tests under the same label and then claim them all unreliable. That is plain silly.

[Anonymous No.3879416]

join the freemasons instead.

it's better for your career.

[Anonymous No.3879421]

I randomly answered some in the end, know i'm 99% wrong but i couldn't be sure about it, your IQ is 105 FML

[Anonymous No.3879422]

>>3879421

Don't worry about it brother. There's a guy I know who's doing a Ph.D in physics, his IQ is 103.

[Anonymous No.3879437]

>>3879416

Im a free mason.

I dont recommend joining.

[Anonymous No.3879439]

I.Q tests are only a measure of how good you are at I.Q test. I take one about once a year for the lulz and my I.Q has apparently increased by 30 points...

[Anonymous No.3879446]

>>3879439
I'll also add that the very idea of Mensa and specialized clubs in general are retarded. They serve no practical purpose except to allow one to believe they are superior. It's just a name you can attach to yourself for bragging rights.

[Anonymous No.3879459]

>>3879446
A typical hostile, narrow view characteristic of a low IQ. Incapable of seeing the bigger picture, the multitude of other reasons one might have. Truly the statement of a simple-minded man.

[Anonymous No.3879463]

>>3879459
Please enlighten me on the practcal benifits of Mensa, then.

[Anonymous No.3879470]

>iq test does not measure intelligence

This is what low iq idiots actually believe. With the current definition of intelligence then yes iq test is a pretty decent measurement.

[Anonymous No.3879472]

>>3879470

No it's not because it doesn't correlate highly with academic or real-world achievement.

[Anonymous No.3879474]

>>3879463
To join one of the tens if not hundreds of special interest groups? To find like minded people? To make new friends? To take part in the online forums which actually provide a fertile ground for debate unlike your typical internet forums? To attend dinners, eat and drink well and have fun with other Mensans?

[Anonymous No.3879491]

>>3879474
>special interest groups?

BSDM and dildos in your ass.

How to be a sub.

BSDM and electricity.

BSDM and needles.

BSDM and hemp ropes.

The African swallow.

BSDM and the African swallow.

BTW, -all- groups are discussion & support groups.

[Anonymous No.3879521]

>>3879472
>IQ doesn't correlate highly with academic or real-world achievement.

I take it you're basing this argument on this Wikipedia snipper:

>The American Psychological Association's report "Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns" states that wherever it has been studied, children with high scores on tests of intelligence tend to learn more of what is taught in school than their lower-scoring peers. The correlation between IQ scores and grades is about .50. This means that the explained variance is 25%. Achieving good grades depends on many factors other than IQ, such as "persistence, interest in school, and willingness to study" (p. 81).[38]

Did you actually read that? It's about children in elementary school, but you're using that text as a basis for stating that there is only weak correlation between IQ and all kinds of academic achievement, including master's and doctoral level studies. You do understand how silly you're being?

Honestly, trying to discuss this matter with you is fruitless. I have to point out elementary mistakes in your logic after every single post. I think it is clear by now for everyone why you're so hostile towards the concept of intelligence.

[Anonymous No.3879526]

>>3875720
odd. i i've taken it several times and get roughly 120.

i'm happy about it. can't wait to take an actual test though.

[Anonymous No.3879531]

>>3879521
>>IQ doesn't correlate highly with academic or real-world achievement.
>I take it you're basing this argument on this Wikipedia snipper:
>implying it wasn't a deductive statement

[Anonymous No.3879532]

>>3879521
fucking thank you.

>IQ correlates with income and general life achievements
>HURR YOU THINK SCORING HIGH ON A TEST MEANS YOU'LL GET INTO HARVARD DURR

fucking strawmen.

[Anonymous No.3879533]

122, but this IQ test only tests visual pattern and pattern recognition so the result is useless to gauge any form for intellectual ability.

[Anonymous No.3879535]

>>3879533
>pattern recognition
>not the most important "form" of intelligence

[Anonymous No.3879542]

>>3879535

You obviously don't know what you're talking about, since you put "form" in quotes.

[Anonymous No.3879548]

>>3879542
i wasn't able to use patterns to aid in remembering proper terms.

sorry bro, but i'm stupid. stop trying to stick up for me.

[Anonymous No.3879561]

>>3879548

an IQ of 120 does not qualify one as "stupid."

[Anonymous No.3879567]

>>3879533
Pattern recognition (matrix) tests are one of the most reliable measures of fluid intelligence (the ability to understand complex relationships and solve novel problems).

[Anonymous No.3879577]

>>3879561
And IQ doesn't cover all aspects of intelligence. He can very easily have that high of an IQ and be a totally ignorant shit-headed fool.

[Anonymous No.3879589]

>>3879577
Do not confuse fluid intelligence with crystallized intelligence, "wisdom" and common sense.

Using intelligence as a general term when discussing IQ and IQ testing only leads to misunderstandings and petty meaningless arguments.

[Anonymous No.3879590]

>>3879577
>He can very easily

is it the case that individuals with high IQs are generally ignorant? just because it's possible doesn't mean it's plausible.

[Anonymous No.3879925]

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[Anonymous No.3879937]

>>3879925
And Gf, aka. fluid intelligence, is exactly what is measured with pattern recognition/matrix reasoning tests. Gf forms the core of human intelligence, picture related.

[Anonymous No.3881729]

>Real-life accomplishments

>Average adult combined IQs associated with real-life accomplishments by various tests:[6][80]
- Neurosurgeons, research scientists, university professors 135+
- MDs, JDs, or PhDs 125 (WAIS-R, 1987)
- College graduates 112 (KAIT, 2000; K-BIT, 1992), 115 (WAIS-R)
- 1–3 years of college 104 (KAIT, K-BIT), 105-110 (WAIS-R)
- Clerical and sales workers 100-105
- High school graduates, skilled workers (e.g., electricians, cabinetmakers) 100 (KAIT, WAIS-R), 97 (K-BIT)
- 1–3 years of high school (completed 9–11 years of school) 94 (KAIT), 90 (K-BIT), 95 (WAIS-R)
- Semi-skilled workers (e.g., truck drivers, factory workers) 90-95
- Elementary school graduates (completed eighth grade) 90
- Elementary school dropouts (completed 0–7 years of school) 80-85
- Have 50/50 chance of reaching high school 75

>Average IQ of various occupational groups:[6]
- Professional and technical 112
- Managers and administrators 104
- Clerical workers; sales workers; skilled workers, craftsmen, and foremen 101
- Semi-skilled workers (operatives, service workers, including private household) 92
- Unskilled workers 87

>Type of work that can be accomplished:[6]
- Adults can harvest vegetables, repair furniture 60
- Adults can do domestic work, simple carpentry 50
- Adults can mow lawns, do simple laundry 40

[6] IQ Testing 101, Alan S. Kaufman, 2009, Springer Publishing Company, ISBN 0826106293 ISBN 9780826106292
[80] Kaufman, Alan; Lichtenberger, Elizabeth (2002). Assessing adolescent and adult intelligence.

[Anonymous No.3881730]

bump

[Anonymous No.3881865]

In his book The g Factor (1998), Arthur Jensen cited data which showed that, regardless of race, people with IQs between 70 and 90 have higher crime rates than people with IQs below or above this range, with the peak range being between 80 and 90.

The 2009 Handbook of Crime Correlates stated that reviews have found that around eight IQ points, or 0.5 SD, separate criminals from the general population, especially for persistent serious offenders. It has been suggested that this simply reflects that "only dumb ones get caught" but there is similarly a negative relation between IQ and self-reported offending. That children with conduct disorder have lower IQ than their peers "strongly argue" against the theory.[75]

[75] Handbook of Crime Correlates; Lee Ellis, Kevin M. Beaver, John Wright; 2009; Academic Press

[Anonymous No.3882105]

got bored and guessed 2 or 3 questions but im ok with results. didnt expect mensa level, tbh