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3850431 No.3850431 [Reply] [Original]

What would /sci/ do if you were appointed dictator of your nation with absolute power?

*Legalize drugs
*Euthanize all old people (everyone over 75)
*Legalize pedophilia
*Work towards building bases on the Moon
*Euthanize all atheists and theists. Only agnosticism will be allowed.

>> No.3850443

>>3850431
Have you shot for being an idiot.

>> No.3850449

>mfw OP is a pothead child molester agnostic who hates his grandmother

>> No.3850453

*Legalize drugs
>sure

*Euthanize all old people (everyone over 75)
>how about make doctor assisted suicide legal instead

*Legalize pedophilia
>No fucking way. stop being a self serving asshole

*Work towards building bases on the Moon
>Why.jpg

*Euthanize all atheists and theists. Only agnosticism will be allowed.
>First we need to find a common definition for what these things actually mean. Not gonna happen anytime soon.


2/10

You are a fucktard. Saging for not /sci/ related

>> No.3850462
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3850462

>>3850449
His grandmother must have touched him inappropriately as a child.

>> No.3850463

>Mfw all agnostics are either atheist or theist, they just believe there's no way to know.

Congrats on euthanizing yourself and literally everyone.

>> No.3850464

*shoot OP in the face

>> No.3850468

>Legalize drugs
Pot maybe, others no.
>Euthanize all old people (everyone over 75)
Or require everyone over 75 to commit suicide. If they don't, they have to pay a $100 tax each year.
>Legalize pedophilia
No,
>Euthanize all atheists and theists. Only agnosticism will be allowed.
mfw OP doesn't know what agnosticism is.

>> No.3850473

>>3850453
Atheism: The belief there are no gods
Agnosticism: The belief there the question of whether gods exist or not is unanswerable
Theism: The belief there are gods

These words are clearly defined and have been for a long time

>> No.3850474

two girls at the same time

>> No.3850478

>>3850463
He can't euthanize a vegetable!

>> No.3850485

There are still plenty of active old people who contribute to society. You wouldn't euthanize them, would you?

>> No.3850488

I think instead we should euthanize everyone under 25. Wipe out that shitty generation and start from scratch with a new one.

>> No.3850489

I would...

*Reinstate ban on prescription drug advertisements
*Rewrite copyright laws so Disney cannot hold onto 80 year old cartoons
*Reinstate analog TV
*Restore CRT TVs/monitors by giving manufacturers subsidies to produce them
*Undo SC ruling that corporations are people
*Reprivatize GM and Chrysler and bust up leech unions
*Revive space program
*Gay couples who have lived together for two years may collect some benefits of married couples, but they can not marry or adopt children
*End War on Drugs
*Get troops out of Europe and Asia and let them defend themselves

>> No.3850491

>>3850473

That's not the definition of agnosticism you mongoloid.

Anyone who calls himself "an agnostic" is either a theist or an atheist, those are the only two choices.

>> No.3850495

>Euthanize all old people (everyone over 75)
are you fucking retarded? people above 75 still make a contribution to society. how about they should ll be forced to become part of the granny cloud in order to motivate the young ones?

>> No.3850497

ITT: terrible ideas

>> No.3850500

>>3850473
Wrong faggot

Atheism is not a belief.

Agnosticism is just another shade of atheism

To define Theism you must define god, and that definition varies greatly

troll harder faggot. I'm going to bed because I have more important things to do than read your dumb ass posts.

>> No.3850502

>>3850489
>End War on Drugs

The only one of those ideas that isn't retarded.

>> No.3850503

>>3850485
Well...we can make an exception for cool old people like Hugh Hefner or Jerry Lewis.

>> No.3850507

>>3850491
>>3850500

>This is what gen y hipsters actually believe

>> No.3850508
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>> No.3850511

>*Legalize pedophilia

If the child is at least 8 and we forbid man-boy sex, I'm good.

>> No.3850512

>>3850500

Dawg.

Atheism is a belief, bro.

If atheism wasn't a belief, you would have never have had to arrived at the conclusion, nor would there be a word describing the nature of that belief system. It simply would be taken for granted.

>> No.3850517

>>3850507
>implying this is a Gen Y thing
>implying Dawkins didn't invent the stupid 4 pillars of belief thing

>> No.3850522

>>3850517
>Implying bawkins doesn't make his money from gen y

>> No.3850525

>>3850522
I dunno; I've seen idiots from all different age brackets repeat his talking points.

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>>3850431
>>3850431

>euthanize atheists

is dis nigga serious?

on the other hand, Pedophilia and Drugs sound like a cool idea OP, srsly.

>> No.3850534

>>3850489
i like this plan, shit used to be way better than it is now
can you ban dubstep and fund new episodes of seinfeld too?

>> No.3850541

*Lower the Age of Consent to 14
*Legalize drugs
*Legalize handguns completely
*Build more homeless shelters
*Build state-funded rehab centers
*Reform the prison system to look more like Norway
*Drastically reduce the number of cops

>> No.3850553

>>3850512

Anyone who has never heard of the concept of God is an atheist. It IS the default state.

>> No.3850558

wow pedos everywhere, fuck your pimply virgin asses

>> No.3850565

>>3850553
The default state is irreligious i.e. having no thoughts or feeling about religion at all

>> No.3850579

>>3850565

Atheism: lack of a belief in a deity.

Someone who has never thought about God lacks the belief in one.

>> No.3850584

I'd do the following, then reinstate a new democratic system as outlined below.
>legalize some drugs. Only alcohol and drugs that are already legal in most first-world nations, as well as marijuana and other drugs that you cannot get physically (as opposed to mentally) addicted to. You are allowed to possess the legal drugs, not produce them/sell them without a license; drugs, alcohol are taxed
>driving age, minimum age to do drugs/drink is 18
>legalize euthanasia
>legalize prostitution over 18
>stricter regulations on who can buy firearms, who can get concealed-gun permits, etc. Background checks, proof on file in a national database
>adopt first 8 amendments of American Constitution, 9th and 10th also but to a lesser degree
>abortion is legal, but only in first trimester
>death penalty is an option for criminals with life sentences without the possibility of perole
>gay marriage is legal
>much simpler taxation system, essentially a flat tax with a few exceptions
>simple welfare system, only barely enough money to buy food and pay for incredibly cheap rent
>barriers to trade (such as subsidies, price floors/ceilings) only erected if absolutely necessary (e.g., minimum wage, to protect workers in an overflowing market)
>environmental concerns are important, strict regulation in place to ensure that the environment is not affected too badly
>research in alternative energy and other technologies that may positively impact the future is funded a good bit
>government would be composed of one chamber containing ~250 people, with several committees that check the legality/constitutionality/etc of legislation passed in the chamber. Legislation would be passed if 60% approval in chamber. It would then go through each of the committees who would have to approve the legislation, this time by majority vote (50%)
>president's role is mainly diplomatic, delivers speeches on the current affairs of the country, etc.
>voting works by instant-runoff voting (IRV)

>> No.3850594

call for a day of repentence, and turn back to God as they did in Ninevah

>> No.3850615

>>3850565
atheism and irreligion are not mutal exclusives

and why do you have to heard about a god to lack faith in it?

>> No.3850623

>>3850553
odd, then, how people who never heard of God know God exists, and you, who have been told that God exists, deny it

>> No.3850648

>disband government

>? ? ?

>profit

None of us can manage a society as well as all of us.

>> No.3850649

>>3850615

If you don't include Buddhists and Confucians, most atheists ARE irreligious.

>> No.3850654

>>3850623

That explains why un-contacted tribes are typically Christian when we first come across them.

>> No.3850665

>>3850623

>how people who never heard of God know God exists
>never heard of God know God

herpity derp

durpy hurp

hurr

>> No.3850672
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3850672

Continue building industry and fossil fuel economy and ignore global warming fears. I'm not saying global warming isn't real. I'm just saying that humanity tends to advance the most when there is chaos. The world wars gave us penicillin, mass production of products, and invaluable advancements in Aviation, Submarines etc etc… Cold war fears gave us the internet and other neat stuff too. There will be more incentive to develop green technology if the danger is perceived and can't be denied or ignored. All of these advancements are from us fearing each other, imagine all the neat stuff that will show up when we're scared of mother nature.

>> No.3850678

>>3850665
yeah his troll-fu is pretty weak, but this is no reason for not saging this thread

>> No.3850700

>>3850654
they all have a supreme being, yes, whether it be the Great Spirit, or the All-Father, or what have you.

>> No.3850704

>>3850665
His laws are written in their hearts; the heavens proclaim His glory; the earth shows His handiwork

they have everything they need to worship the one true God, or to not do so. every man has a choice. even you.

>> No.3850713

>>3850704

dat OCD dat OCD

>> No.3850716

>>3850713
feel special now? good

>> No.3850717

Step down immediately

>> No.3850719

>>3850431
>Euthanize all atheists and theists

Everyone is dead now.

>> No.3850720

"If atheism is a belief then not collecting postage stamps is a hobby"

>> No.3850722

>>3850500

>Atheism is not a belief.

WHY ARE YOU ALL RETARDED?!

You can actively believe there is no god. You can not believe in god. These things are just negative and positive descriptions of the same fucking position.


You can be convinced that there is no God, but concede that definitive proof isn't a possible.

These are all different positions under which you can be rightly called an atheist.

You can also be so indecisive that you could just call yourself purely agnostic.

>> No.3850724

>>3850700

If they tended to match up in the particulars of metaphysics, that might mean something.

As it stands though, the best you can say is that when god is talking to most people, they either have no idea what it is saying, despite claiming that they know for sure, or it is making itself clear, but it is lying to them for some reason, or it is genuinely talking to some people, but there is no way to tell the real ones from the fake ones.

Maybe a kind of lowest common denominator idea of god is fine for you, though, I don't know.

>> No.3850728

>>3850722

If it is a belief, it's of a different sort than a religious belief.

It's in the same category as believing Santa Claus doesn't exist. Technically a belief, but it's not quite the same as the belief Santa Claus does exist. For one thing, only one of these says they know anything about Santa Claus and have good reason to think their knowledge is accurate.

>> No.3850729

>>3850584
But alcohol is physically addictive.
Why make the exception for alcohol, but not heroin or cocaine?
Alcohol addiction is much worse than an addiction to smack or crack.

>> No.3850730

I would gear the entire nation towards supplying me with drugs and a harem of beautiful sex slaves.

Are you faggots gay?

>> No.3850731

>>3850724
a God who makes it a simple choice to believe in Him or to not believe in Him does appeal to me; i like simple things. believe in Jesus, go to heaven. do anything else, go to hell. simple.

and i'm not talking about hearing voices; i'm talking about looking up at the desert sky and seeing millions of stars, and a moon, and having something inside you yearn to reach out, to become one with, to meet, to find, the creator of all things

>> No.3850733

>Kill everybody I hate
>Start state-funded orgy centers, where every person is required to go and have sex with everybody else in the room (this includes gay, except for me I don't really wanna get done in the butt) at least twice a month
>Everybody who I don't hate but kinda bothers me gets pieces of my shit sent to them in the mail, which they must eat and send me pictures proving that they ate.
>If I ask/tell/imply somebody ought to do something, they must do it, or else they'll have to eat my shit or be killed depending on how I feel about them not doing it
>Picture of me in every room of every house
>Taxes go to fund only the military, orgy rooms, law enforcement, firemen, healthcare, science, and my own interests. If I decide not to fund anything I said I would fund, people must shut the fuck up and deal with it.
>We must win at least one war per decade, until we are the last remaining country.
>Protesters get tortured for no less than one months straight before being killed. Torture shall be recorded and shown on the new torture channel on television.
>When I feel like it, every channel must show what I say they must show.
>The Statue of liberty shall have giant naked tits sculpted onto it, so that I can have a cheap laugh.

>> No.3850734

>>3850730
dude, that never ends well; see caligula

>> No.3850738

PICTURE A FREE MARKET AND A FREE SOCIETY
/thread

>> No.3850741

>>3850489

I agree with everything you said except the homophobic statement.

>> No.3850743

>>3850722

>You can also be so indecisive that you could just call yourself purely agnostic.

What, it's 50/50 ?

>> No.3850744

>>3850734
It's worked pretty well for Kim Jong Il, amirite?

>> No.3850748

>>3850744
little fucker looks crazy as shit to me; wonder if he still enjoys fucking 5 year olds

>> No.3850754

*legalize masturbation
*equal rights for dogs
* make learning to play the kazoo mandatory.
*subsidize bicycles and outlaw any engine greater than 8 horse power. (10 h.p. if the horn plays a melody)
*divert all military funding to give everyone on our continent a free breakfast.

>> No.3850756

>>3850744
For a while, but he's almost 70 and in rather poor health from the years of excess catching up to him.

>> No.3850757

>>3850734
>implying everyone wouldn't worship me as a god

>> No.3850760

-Instill anarcho-communistic principals throughout the nation
-Dissolve the nation-state
-Allow communities on a larger scale to flourish independently without government

>> No.3850765

>>3850754
i can support these

>> No.3850766

>>3850731

I'm not talking about the choice of yes or no. I'm talking about the innumerable conflicting, contradictory claims about what god actually is and wants.

Simple it would be if we had a way to know what god actually says and what it doesn't. Abominable it is if god is really there and it's impossible to know the rules by which we will be judged.


>saging because this is basically a thread derail at this point

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3850769

>Mfw my glorious /int/ thread has been perverted by a pedophilic agnostic

And you fucking butchered the OP.

>> No.3850770

>>3850757
GODS DON'T BLEED

>> No.3850773

>>3850502
>fixing copyright
>terrible idea
you aren't smart enough to be on /sci/
and no, I'm not complimenting /sci/ with that statement

>> No.3850776

>>3850744
Yeh, but Kim is a very wily, smart guy. Caligula was an idiot.

>> No.3850780

Euthanize all theists and agnostics and ban religion
Legalize marijuana and prostitution
Make marriage illegal
Reproduction would require a license by the state
Make sports scholarships illegal

>> No.3850781

>>3850766
yeah, if we had, like, eyewitness accounts of a man who claimed to be God, and performed miracles and wonders to demonstrate that He was God, and walked out of His grave three days after He was publically executed, and said believe that I am the Christ, the Son of the Living God, and you will be saved

if only we had some sort of collection of writings that has been preserved for thousands of years

are you still reading this, or have you grabbed a bible yet and are reading the Gospel according to John?

>> No.3850782

>>3850776
They'd probably both be neat guys to make friends with, though.

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3850783

>>3850733
>>3850733

Thomas Hobbes is ok with this.

>> No.3850789

write an absolute, unchangeable document that:
legalizes drugs, and funds education about detrimental effects of drugs
requires 75% of all annual government income to be spent on research and development of science/technology related areas.
implement a voluntary eugenics program (to be funded either separately or by the 75% set aside above)
makes lobbying and any sort of corporate interference in governmental mechanisms punishable by death by drawing and quartering.
makes formation of any sort of political party punishable by death by impalement.
requires all political candidates to have achieved at least a B+ in: chemistry, calculus, physics.
makes media bias or misrepresentation of facts or presenting lies as fact punishable by the hook.
sets aside a set amount of money available to anyone who wants to run for political office, and outlaws any outside funding, violation of which is punishable by firing squad.
makes religious interference in ANY state function (education, legislation, political philosophy) punishable by flaying.
alternative to above - require registration of religious affiliations, which voids your right to participate in the political process.
guarantees myself and my family and ancestors 1% of national income and a sizable chunk of land.

then i would set up means for holding elections, and step down as dictator.

>> No.3850795

>>3850780
I fucking hate sports scholarships, I vote you dictator... but the equal rights for dogs guy should be vice dictator.

>> No.3850810

>>3850741
What did I do that was homophobic?

>> No.3850811

>>3850781

If only, but we don't have such a document. And even if we did, unless it had something more than it's own declaration of accuracy to back itself up, it would be identical to any of the other countless revelations in existences. And even if we could be sure that it was the one correct revelation, we'd still need to pick between the countless competing interpretations.

It's safer to just make no specific propitiation and try to live by your conscience and common sense. Any other other choice is certain to make an unjust god madder, and a just god disappointed.

>> No.3850816

>>3850810

I think that banning any group from signing contracts or adopting children would be considered prejudiced against them, unless you had a very good reason.

>> No.3850823

>>3850816
...I wouldn't want the kid to get bullied at school because his parents are...

>> No.3850828

>>3850816
the reason is to please the people of Uganda, whose entire population will be imported in our country for my amusement

>> No.3850830

>>3850823

Mixed race?

>> No.3850850

Atheism is not a religion. It is a lack of faith. A lack of faith is not faith. Not collecting stamps is not a hobby. Atheism is not the Big Bang theory and it is not the theory of Evolution. Science is not a religion, it is a method for discovering new knowledge. Atheism is only a religion in the same way that not believing is Santa Clause is also a religion. If everything you don't believe in is considered a religion then there are an infinite amount of religions. The burden of proof lies on people claiming that a god exists. There is no purpose for our existence, only causes. Morality is independent of religion. Actions done under the belief that punishment awaits are impure. "Good" and "bad" are only human perceptions.
Religion is the epitome of ignorance, it is a deadly ignorance. It is an abomination and insult to reason. It is a political tool used to control large populations. It is a security blanket for those that fear death. It is a cheap answer to questions that science cannot at this time explain. It is the result of a lack of information. Religion is holding mankind from it's potential. Religion tries to cheapen the natural beauty of the universe and replaces with ugly lies.
Religion continues to exist because of tradition, early indoctrination and an emotional response to deny the coldness of reality. Once indoctrinated the believer becomes loyal to his religion. Because he has invested so much of his life/time and emotion into his religion he becomes openly hostile to people that question his faith. He responds with anger and emotion instead of curiousity. He is unable to look critically at his beliefs. Religious people are feelers. They believe in their religion because they WANT it to be true. They are our lost brothers and sisters.

>> No.3850844

>>3850816
Homosexuals should not be allowed to adopt children, by being gay you should accept that you can't have children not try and get around the rules by adopting instead.

>> No.3850851

>>3850830
Did I say anything about that? No.

>> No.3850866

>>3850851
>tfw he didn't get the point Anon was trying to make

>> No.3850868

Repatriate non whites
No social programs for poor people

>> No.3850871

>>3850830
Mixed race people, under my government, will have to pay double the taxes of not mixed. Actually, not just mixed race, mixed ethnicities (Irish/Italian, Han Chinese/Japanese, one kind of nigs/other kind of nigs) in the same race should have to pay 1.5 the regular taxes

>> No.3850872

>>3850844

are you just stupid? Homosexuals have children all the time... do you even know what the word means?

>> No.3850873

>>3850844

You also oppose single people adopting? Infertile couples?

>>3850851

I'm sorry, I though you were worried about the effect of bigotry on children? I think this is the fault of people who are prejudiced, but obviously some people think it's the parents fault for bringing such targets into existence in the first place.

>> No.3850893

step 1) minimize public welfare programs
step 2) those that fail to support themselves emigrate or die

>> No.3850910

>>3850872
I never knew that Bob and Harry could conceive a child by inseminating feces.

>> No.3850914

a·the·ism   [ey-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2.
disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

A disbelief is the same as a belief, it's just a negative description. So people are right to call atheism a belief.

If you simply have no religious beliefs one way or the other, well...I think it would be more accurate to simply call yourself "areligious" or something. That isn't the same thing as Agnosticism because agnosticism is an active stance.

>> No.3850915

>>3850871
How do you propose detecting ethnicity in such a "black-and-white" manner? Besides diversification is a good thing in biology.

>> No.3850919

>>3850910

Most men could inseminate most woman. Homosexuality only indicates a disinclination to engage in activities that would allow this, nothing more.

>> No.3850927

Bases on moon since all the others seem horrible.

I guess I would be weak leader.

>> No.3850938

>>3850919
But fags having butt secks is not inseminating women.

>> No.3850939

>>3850914

We have a word already, irreligious.

Not all atheists are irreligious, you have Buddhists and Raelians, or even Confucians and Secular Humanists if you want to stretch it, who are all atheists and religious. And not all the irreligious are atheists, deists certainly belong in the category.

>> No.3850944

>>3850914
It's the same thing as the difference between immoral and amoral. The a- signfies a lack of morals/belief et.c. Not the opposite of moral/theist/whatever. Using areligous would be the exact same thing except it would be in respect to religion not the belief in a god.

>> No.3850959

>>3850915
I don't really care about the second thing, but people know what their ethnicity is... Although I guess I can change it to making ethnicities bigger (germanics, latin whites, slavs,).

And I didn't say kill them, I just said make them pay more because I don't like them.

>> No.3850961

0/10 shitty ass troll thread

>> No.3850962

>>3850944

The definition is right there, straight out of the dictionary, if you are going to just deny it then this conversation cannot continue. Your personal intuitions about what words should mean are invalid when they disagree with the dictionary.

>> No.3850963

>>3850961
fun-hating faggot detected

>> No.3850971

>>3850488
good luck

>> No.3850978

http://www.newnation.co/forums/showthread.php?t=181001

I LOLed.

>> No.3850979

>>3850873
Why don't we just kill all the fucking orphans? Adoption's for faggots anyways.

>> No.3850986

>>3850431
faggot

>> No.3850989

Gay: Got AIDS Yet?

AIDS: Anally Injected Death Sentence

>> No.3850990

>>3850962
Dictionaries arn't the end all of a word's meaning(especially not free online ones), use dictates what a word means and dictionaries are updated based on that. From the Greek root a- theos it makes a lot more sense to derive "Without gods" rather than "The oposite of belief in god". As one does with a- moral.

>> No.3850991

>>3850978
>butt boy