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3831102 No.3831102 [Reply] [Original]

anyone care to discuss the possibility of cryogenics being achieved in our life time

also Neutrinos are faster than light what do you think about that Einstein.

>> No.3831154
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3831154

>>3831102
I am pretty much okay with this since I am dead now.

>> No.3831158

>>3831102
>discovery travels back in time
>einstein hears it on death bed

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>>3831102
So did we go to the moon yet? I mean you can travel back in time, but what about the moon.

>> No.3831183

>>3831179
Yeah we can go there, big whoop stop making a fuss over it

>> No.3831191

>>3831179

Nah. Some Americans tried to make it look like we did to fight off the ruskies in the space race, but I've never been there, so as far as I know, it doesn't even exist.

>> No.3831195

>>3831179
We went to the moon because we were in a dick-swinging contest with the Soviets. There was legitimate science too, but it was mostly dick-swinging.

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>>3831102
Thats a mighty fine distorted tesseract, i love the idea of a 4th dimension, i would love to visit it(if it exists), unfortunately that is impossible...

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>>3831191
>>3831183

Funny you should put out these two teories at the same time. This proves my Teori that every teori will always create an opposit or DARK Teori of itself.

>> No.3831246

what? people are already cryogenically frozen. do you mean unfreezing the ones frozen by current methods? i dont think thats gonna happen without some advanced nanotechnology. not in our lifetimes.

or do you mean the invention of a whole new method of cryogenics that is easy to unfreeze someone from? that'd come sooner i think if it comes at all. but again not within our lifetimes

>> No.3831254

interestingly the magnetic freezer method used to freeze sushi without busting open the cell walls turning it to mush. is now being used to preserve teeth, and scientists say they're working on using these big magnetic freezers to store organs, freezing them without busting the cell walls so that organs like hearts and shit can be kept for years between transplants.

and if they get that far one day freezing and unfreezing an entire human may not be out of the question

more info
http://singularityhub.com/2011/01/23/food-freezing-technology-preserves-human-teeth-organs-next/

>> No.3831260

Maybe not in our lifetimes, but if you help out by running programs like Folding@Home we'll get there faster.

>> No.3831272

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8024991/Patients-to-be-frozen-into-state-of-suspended-a
nimation-for-surgery.html

Freezing people is cool.

>> No.3831303

>>3831260

Has F@H helped significantly to make any discoveries with decent implications?

>> No.3831332

>>3831303

Probably.

http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Papers

>> No.3831357

>>3831102
You are probably confusing terms. Cryogenics is very much possible and I work with that every day.
Achieving ~20mK is a piece of cake. Record is few pK.

If you are talking about cryonics (freezing humans with possibility of unfreezing and revving them), probably no. Freezing water mechanically destroys cells, there's no known workaround and not even a distant idea how to prevent it (except for draining body of all water).

Also, neutrino experiment was probably an error, see:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1109.6160
basically, GR is fucking up your synchronisation. This effect is experimentally verified, so even if GR is wrong, this effect exists and is approximated by GR well enough.

>> No.3831381

honestly i don't know much about either subject just enough to sound like i know what i am talking about
i red that i t was probably a mistake, because Neutrinos from a supernova reached the earth at about the same time as the light and if Neutrinos traveled faster as the tests suggest then it would have reached earth a good deal be fore the light

also yes i meant cryonics not cryogenics
i know that water in cells freezes into shards tearing and bursting cells but if we could lower the freezing temperature or introduce a compound that caps the forming Crystal so the cells will not burst

>> No.3831417

>>3831381
Well, yes. That crazy U.S. company that does this is pumping dead people with something that is basically antifreeze. The problem is that if you take the person out of the cryostat they are pumped with toxic antifreeze.

And if neutrinos had the speed OPERA suggests, the'd be here 4.5 years sooner from that supernova. It would also invalidate good portion of quantum field theory (which predicts that at this speed beam would be depleted of high energy neutrinos) which is incredibly well tested.
So yeah, it most probably error.

>> No.3831419

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ0m13iJw0k

>> No.3831433

>>3831417
Even if there's a small chance of there being a cure for antifreeze poisoning + whatever kills me, I see no real reason not to get frozen. It's fairly cheap to add to a life insurance policy, the potential benefits are phenomenal, and the probability is non-negligible.

>> No.3831434

>>3831433
You can waste your money in whatever way you see fit.