Biogenesis thread 2

[Anonymous No.3815341]

Biogenesis, /sci/.

Get it here:
http://biogenesis.sourceforge.net/

So this is what my enviornment turned into. Life expectancy 10, mutation 0.02%, and the pictured settings. I started with just a single fairly neat looking entirely green organism.

I think this is a really good demonstration of evolutionary pressures. At one point it developed the ability to move and kill other organisms, and then the species must have evolved a way to defend itself against itself. This is due to mutation and mutation only, since the green stationary organism would have survived and flourished if it hadn't mutated, but once it developed one grey offspring, of course the grey ones took over.

[Anonymous No.3815364]

>>3815341
Biogenesis cannot into multithreading, sadly my 5000x5000 map has started to lag now everything has evolved into more complex organisms.
Still biodiverse as fuck, but might make a smaller map next time.

[Anonymous No.3815372]

BTW if anyone wants to introduce some havoc into my environment:

24.117.220.6 Port 6881


To connect, just click manage connections and enter that information. It opens two portals, one that dumps some of your creatures to me, and one that dumps some of my creatures to you.

[Anonymous No.3815382]

And now my enviornment has AIDS.

[Anonymous No.3815396]

HA! My enviornment beat the AIDS. The population of plants was reduced, but the ones that survived had a strong blue shell, and they mutated a white/blue shell, and are once again dominating the enviornment.

[Anonymous No.3815397]

>>3815382

Oh, man. I didn't realise I'd spammed so many.

[Anonymous No.3815402]

>>3815372
enjoy the locusts (if my connection works)

[Anonymous No.3815406]

>>3815402
Come at me bro, I beat the AIDS needles!

[Anonymous No.3815409]

What do you guys have your parameters set to? pic related.

[Anonymous No.3815413]

Did someone just send me a bunch of shuriken?

[Anonymous No.3815414]

>>3815409
Do you really want to make an organism have to use 15 energy every time something touches its shield?

[Anonymous No.3815417]

IM GOING TO BREED WARRIORS AND CONNECT TO YOU OP

[Anonymous No.3815420]

>>3815414
Yes, blue covered plants are OP as fuck otherwise.

[Anonymous No.3815424]

>>3815413
maybe

[Anonymous No.3815427]

>>3815417
Thanks, I've kind of got an infestation of killer christmas ornaments from someone else.

[Anonymous No.3815440]

>>3815427
You closed it after I sent some in
Hopefully they do well!

[Anonymous No.3815444]

>>3815427
he spiny plants are mine lol.
>>3815414
Also even with a cost of 15 i still have colonies of blue plants in my world (the 5kx5k one), they're just not the dominate, unbeatable plague they were before.

[Anonymous No.3815445]

Two members of the original population yet live, while the invaders battle it out for supremacy.

[Anonymous No.3815448]

>>3815440
I didn't close it, it only keeps them open for a few second. I'd host a combat server and stream it for you guys if it kept them open forever.

[Anonymous No.3815450]

>>3815445
aw ye
Those 5 sided ones with grey tipped spikes are mine

[Anonymous No.3815453]

>>3815448
What?
Me and my friend did it with hamachi and had it open for forever
We were always breeding crazy shit and putting a couple into the other person's portal

[Anonymous No.3815458]

>>3815448
They stay open until it loses connection, i've kept a connection open with a friend for like an hour, i guess we just live far apart or something.

[Anonymous No.3815461]

I don't even know what the fuck now.

I think both contenders died off due to some new threat while I wasn't looking.

[Anonymous No.3815465]

>>3815458
Nobody else is able to connect for any longer, and last thread nobody else could keep a connection up either.

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3815467]

>>3815372
sent some critters through, but then it disconnected.

[Anonymous No.3815475]

>>3815465
Some of you guys should get Hamachi
Like I said before me and my friends used it and it works great
I'll setup a room of people say they'll join

https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/download.aspx
if you get it get unmanaged

[Anonymous No.3815478]

>>3815461
those plants are the dominate plant in my large map, where there are hundreds of little bug things swarming around, some must have snuck through.

[Anonymous No.3815481]

>>3815475
I've used Hamachi before, I'm game.

[Anonymous No.3815485]

>>3815475
what room name?

[Anonymous No.3815496]

>>3815485

Room name:
/sci/ battles

password:
biology

I guess just connect to whoever's ip and we'll have big multiroom ecosystems

[Anonymous No.3815502]

>>3815496
Also, I use the default 8888 port

[Anonymous No.3815512]

>>3815496
sending aids in every direction

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3815520]

aww who's gray goddamn stars are those lol

[Anonymous No.3815521]

>>3815520

Might be mine. Are they doing well?

[Vandelay No.3815523]

>>3815520
Oh god your portal is spamming me

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3815533]

>>3815521
someone's death gliders just destroyed everything.

[Anonymous No.3815537]

>>3815533

Post a picture, please. I want to see this.

[War No.3815541]

>>3815533
lmao, they're the apex predator in my world

[Anonymous No.3815548]

Nazi circles, nazi circles everywhere

But yeah it seems to have trouble maintaining connection even with you guys over hamachi, not sure what the issue is

[Anonymous No.3815554]

>>3815537
Same.

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3815555]

>>3815537

[Anonymous No.3815563]

>>3815555

Thank you, sir/madam.

[pascal !n5Z3VuZapw No.3815566]

Why everyone so pretty? i only get weird stringy things.

[Anonymous No.3815568]

>>3815555
d'aww someone copied my babies.

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3815572]

blue ball faggots lol

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3815577]

>>3815572

[Anonymous No.3815606]

BUMP
this shit is fun

[War No.3815616]

fear the death gliders!

[War No.3815905]

my ecosystem is fairly stable now

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3815994]

[Anonymous No.3815995]

sup?

[Anonymous No.3816023]

>>3815905
if by stable you mean boring and filled with plants.

[Anonymous No.3816073]

>>3816023
>implying the 200 bugs are also plants

[Anonymous No.3816080]

>>3816073
>implying the blue and gray parts aren't terribly OP

[Anonymous No.3816083]

"I started with just a single fairly neat looking entirely green organism."

This is the heart (yes, I said heart) of the problem OP.
Biology, the science of the Godz, is never " neat looking"
It is the Church of Chaos.It is the love of maddness.
Neat? no, it is cum-all-over-yur-Mom sloppy.

Embrace the function born from dysfunction. This is how meaningless molecules fall in love.
God speed faggot.

[Anonymous No.3816096]

>>3816080
>implying implications
both blue and grey have high costs associated with them, they've simply developed an efficient (and necessary) method of using grey - both plants and bugs.
Otherwise yes, they are OP.

[Anonymous No.3816328]

>>3816096
>>3816080

Even with a low probability and a high cost both gray and blue eventually show up and become prolific.

Plus, leaving them out entirely is silly.

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3816450]

> wake up to go to the bathroom
> have to check
> mfw

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3816454]

>>3816450

[war No.3816657]

>>3816328
Not quite, while predator organisms almost always have grey parts (just common sense really), by now, a large number of the plants have evolved past grey thorns. I've also had almost no blue at all in this world, due to the sheer number of predators as well as the cost.

[Anonymous No.3816695]

I try to connect but the boxes dont even show up, whats up?

[Anonymous No.3816783]

>>3816695
connecting is really dodgy, hamachi makes it work better, but some people i simply can't connect with, most people i can't connect with for very long.

[Anonymous No.3816873]

these things are kickin my ass ever since they evolved out of nowhere

[Anonymous No.3816928]

plants with blue cell walls = master race

I'm pretty sure adult plants are invincible, there is also a species of small red and cyan sticks that can fit through the gaps and eat the dead or mutated plants, kind of like how bacteria are always waiting around to decompose something. Neat.

[Anonymous No.3816940]

After two solid days of evolution, I think my creatures have pretty much maxed out their evolution. There are two main species, plants and animals. The plants are green surrounded by blue, and the animals are basically just fast-moving stomachs. They have an opening that can "ingest" a plant, and a sort of stomach cavity that has red around it, which just repeatedly bangs around on the blue armor of the plants until it finally breaks them down.

I've waited and waited and generation after generation is pretty much the same at this point. I don't really see how it could go much further, because there isn't really any reason for them to evolve beyond this. They're perfect eating/reproduction machines. There's no option in the game for moving parts, etc, so I'm pretty much bored with it at this point.

Still, a very cool game and I hope it continues to improve.

[Anonymous No.3816953]

Is it... 'correct' to call stationary all-green organisms 'plants' and roving ones 'animals'?

Because it seems to me I either only get one or the other after about half an hour.

[Anonymous No.3816958]

>>3816928
Nah, a well evolved eater can eat through the blue armor, see this: >>3816928
But it does take a pretty evolved animal to do it.

[Anonymous No.3816964]

>>3816953
Nah, it's just a kind of slang, I guess. The moving creatures often have green segments, too, so it's hard to distinguish.

[Anonymous No.3816993]

>>3816958
Woops, meant to say:
see this: >>3816940

[Anonymous No.3817028]

What value do you guys set the mutation rate to?

[Anonymous No.3817049]

>>3816993
Any chance you could show your armor piercer? Or did you already?

[Anonymous No.3817051]

>>3817028
0.02
>>3816940
set the energy cost of blue up high, mines is 13, i still get a few blue shelled plants, but not many, they're no longer the dominant species.
see:>>3815409

[Anonymous No.3818693]

>>3815341
bump
PREDATOR:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE genetic_code [
<!ELEMENT genetic_code (gene+)>
<!ATTLIST genetic_code symmetry (1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8) #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST genetic_code mirror (yes|no) #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST genetic_code disperse (yes|no) #REQUIRED>
<!ELEMENT gene EMPTY>
<!ATTLIST gene length CDATA #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST gene theta CDATA #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST gene color (red|green|blue|cyan|yellow|gray|white) #REQUIRED>
]>
<genetic_code symmetry="2" mirror="yes" disperse="yes">
<gene length="2.0" theta="5.742133239061344" color="red" />
<gene length="15.0" theta="5.323254218582705" color="red" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="1.1519173063162575" color="green" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="1.239183768915974" color="green" />
<gene length="15.0" theta="0.0" color="red" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="red" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="cyan" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="green" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="1.2217304763960306" color="blue" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="cyan" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="blue" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="cyan" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="2.5307274153917776" color="blue" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="blue" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="5.532693728822025" color="gray" />
</genetic_code>

[Anonymous No.3818731]

>>3816953
>>3816953
>>3816953


This, also are mostly green stationary things with some red carnivorous plants?

[Anonymous No.3818757]

>>3817049
I don't even have the game on my PC any more... They came in a lot of different varieties, but similar to the pic.

1) Red mouth/stomach, big enough to contain an entire plant
2) Some combination of green/yellow body
3) Two cyans pointing "forward" but not quite parallel

Sometimes they would have a blue shield around the body, but it didn't seem to be a huge advantage. some of them also occasionally had white mixed in there, but it never seemed to last for many generations.

The orientation of the cyan is pretty important. They need to be at about 90 degrees to each other. If the angle is too big, the creature won't move forward effectively. If the angle is too small, it won't turn to face its food.

Also, I turn the probability of gray down very low, as mentioned earlier. These creatures showed up on their own when the time reached something like 2000. I think that amounted to something like 300 generations.

[Anonymous No.3818760]

>>3818757
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.3818919]

>>3818693
NEW AND IMPROVED:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE genetic_code [
<!ELEMENT genetic_code (gene+)>
<!ATTLIST genetic_code symmetry (1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8) #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST genetic_code mirror (yes|no) #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST genetic_code disperse (yes|no) #REQUIRED>
<!ELEMENT gene EMPTY>
<!ATTLIST gene length CDATA #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST gene theta CDATA #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST gene color (red|green|blue|cyan|yellow|gray|white) #REQUIRED>
]>
<genetic_code symmetry="2" mirror="yes" disperse="yes">
<gene length="2.0" theta="5.742133239061344" color="red" />
<gene length="15.0" theta="5.323254218582705" color="red" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="1.1519173063162575" color="green" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="1.239183768915974" color="green" />
<gene length="15.0" theta="0.0" color="red" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="red" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.7330382858376184" color="cyan" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="green" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="blue" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="cyan" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="red" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="cyan" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="2.5307274153917776" color="red" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="0.0" color="red" />
<gene length="5.0" theta="5.532693728822025" color="gray" />
</genetic_code>

[Anonymous No.3818925]

>>3815341
>play intelligently designed game
>claim as proof of evolution

[Anonymous No.3818957]

It shows that given some arbitrary set of rules (like chemistry for the real world), nature can produce complexity and the other hallmarks of evolution.

[Anonymous No.3818959]

>>3818957
That was to
>>3818925

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3818972]

Been tweaking parameters all day. Decreased the segment cost (raised it from 5000 to 7500) hoping more complicated creatures would appear, but complicated predators are still driving everything to blue.

Also pic related

[Anonymous No.3818984]

>>3818957
>play intelligently designed game
>use as proof of random evolution
>add "nature" to mix
>???
>profit

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3818996]

Also I've found that this is a good "seed" plant to test predators:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE genetic_code [
<!ELEMENT genetic_code (gene+)>
<!ATTLIST genetic_code symmetry (1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8) #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST genetic_code mirror (yes|no) #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST genetic_code disperse (yes|no) #REQUIRED>
<!ELEMENT gene EMPTY>
<!ATTLIST gene length CDATA #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST gene theta CDATA #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST gene color (red|green|blue|cyan|yellow|gray|white) #REQUIRED>
]>
<genetic_code symmetry="6" mirror="yes" disperse="no">
<gene length="2.0" theta="0.8261818413238113" color="yellow" />
<gene length="18.0" theta="0.0" color="green" />
<gene length="18.0" theta="3.782243058106026" color="green" />
<gene length="17.1" theta="0.0" color="white" />
</genetic_code>

[Anonymous No.3819001]

>>3818996
what's more complicated, your computer code or DNA?

get back to me when it's your computer code, k?

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3819006]

>>3819001
?

[Anonymous No.3819111]

>>3819006
i agree. you are clueless. you and your "waifu"

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3819198]

>>3819111
It's clear you're just stirring up shit, I just have to wonder why.

[Anonymous No.3819335]

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE genetic_code [
<!ELEMENT genetic_code (gene+)>
<!ATTLIST genetic_code symmetry (1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8) #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST genetic_code mirror (yes|no) #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST genetic_code disperse (yes|no) #REQUIRED>
<!ELEMENT gene EMPTY>
<!ATTLIST gene length CDATA #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST gene theta CDATA #REQUIRED>
<!ATTLIST gene color (red|green|blue|cyan|yellow|gray|white) #REQUIRED>
]>
<genetic_code symmetry="6" mirror="no" disperse="yes">
<gene length="15.8" theta="0.0" color="yellow" />
<gene length="14.6" theta="2.076941809873252" color="green" />
<gene length="18.0" theta="0.15707963267948966" color="green" />
<gene length="18.0" theta="3.6477381366681487" color="green" />
<gene length="18.0" theta="2.4958208303518914" color="green" />
<gene length="17.400000000000002" theta="1.0471975511965976" color="blue" />
<gene length="18.0" theta="0.6457718232379019" color="gray" />
</genetic_code>
...huehuehue

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3821400]

glider with yellow

[Anonymous No.3821406]

bumping this shit hell yeah mother fuckers

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3821774]

Glider survival! Fluke...or perfection?

[Anonymous No.3821800]

108.75.80.200 port 8888
Feel the terror.

[Anonymous No.3821867]

>>3821800
join >>3815496 hamachi group, more reliable connections

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3821869]

>>3821800
tried but can't get a connection

[Anonymous No.3821894]

>>3821867
There's no Linux client for Hamachi that I can see.

>>3821869
Derp, I'm 108.70.85.200. Stuuuuupid.

[Anonymous No.3821911]

>>3821894
enjoy the gliders

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3821918]

>>3821894
enjoy you're gliders

[Anonymous No.3821924]

>>3821911
>>3821918
OH GOD WHYYYYYYYYYYY

[Anonymous No.3821947]

>>3818972

I had some clever creatures show up similar to the red limbed ones in your picture.

They were cross shaped and had eight limbs, the inside of each limb was red and would face the opposite one. The creature would funnel small creatures into one of it's mouths, and when the prey tried to bounce out they got devoured.

Sadly it was too complicated and only survived a few generations before simpler plant-like creatures took over.

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3821957]

>>3821947
That pattern seems pretty common, I've had it evolve twice. Right now I'm working on some unexpectedly efficient shape that survives glider attacks, it's going ok. survived two heavy waves.

[Anonymous No.3821963]

>>3821957

Could you post an image of the gliders? I don't think I've had any show up as of yet.

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3821978]

>>3821963
here's a variation that seemed to do ok tonight, basically something on this theme with or without yellow

[Anonymous No.3822026]

>>3821978

Okay, thank you. I've made some, let's see how they do.

[Anonymous No.3822030]

>>3822026

Welp, in the time it took me to write that sentence they had destroyed everything.

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3822066]

>>3822030
haha, they are crazy

[Anonymous No.3822094]

Well, now I've just got a bunch of freaky frog things.

[Anonymous No.3822109]

this guy is a monster, he's spreading everywhere and zooming around and killing shit

[Anonymous No.3822118]

>>3822109
seems like sometimes he gets too eager and strays into the pile of deadly carnivorous plants

[Anonymous No.3822130]

One of these plants.... 24 victims, and it just sits there with a blue shield in a spiral and teeth right underneath it.. anything that gets close gets sucked in and shredded...only vulnerable spots are inside the opposite side of where it spins

[Anonymous No.3822199]

this particular organism killed 488 others on its own...

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3822226]

hard to keep numbers up with portals open

[Anonymous No.3822252]

a revoltion for the purity of the alife ppl

[Anonymous No.3822315]

>>3822109

that guy is just fucking up my world

[Anonymous No.3823131]

anybody here anymore, I wanna introduce new species to my enviroment. It's been simulating all wark day

[Anonymous No.3823419]

>>3823131
yes tell me

and the only thing that i can get to live forver is a blue ball with a green interior

[Marion Bartoli is my Waifu No.3823433]

Woke up to extinction this morning. Survived two waves of gliders, but apparently at some point in the night something went to shit. Maybe I should try a larger world with less CO2.

[Anonymous No.3823486]

I CREATED CANCER!

[Anonymous No.3823521]

too much oxygen what do

[Anonymous No.3823653]

anyone up for a fight?