Anyone seen this yet? >Researchers developing new form of life that's made of metal http://dvice.com/archives/2011/09/researchers-dev.php

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Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:24:28 2011 No.3751358 [Reply] [Original]

Anyone seen this yet?
>Researchers developing new form of life that's made of metal
http://dvice.com/archives/2011/09/researchers-dev.php

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:27:28 2011 No.3751372 File: 47 KB, 654x471, 1312855173276.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] But the real question is why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:29:28 2011 No.3751379 >>3751372 Oh it's for the name of science, good thing. Still, is it possible for this to backfire and mutate and be a new virus type and since it's so alien to our immune system we could be fucked?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:29:28 2011 No.3751381 I for one welcome our new metallic overlords.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:32:28 2011 No.3751392

>>3751379
No because viruses in order to cause infection have to have surface proteins that will attach to our cellulars membrane proteins. Also seeing as this is metallic it's DNA would be so alien that it couldn't be incorporated to ours. I'd be more worried about grey goo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:33:28 2011 No.3751400 >click article >biology >science nope

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:33:28 2011 No.3751402 >>3751392 Yeah, I think poisoning would be more of a concern for us.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:35:28 2011 No.3751412 >>3751400 Technically this is engineering.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:36:28 2011 No.3751414 >>3751358 Is this a reliable source or what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:37:28 2011 No.3751420 >>3751412 so metallic life dies out because it's all homosexual and can't reproduce? EURKEA

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:37:28 2011 No.3751423 grey goo destroying the world incoming

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:37:28 2011 No.3751426 >>3751392 Grey goo? Also, what if it latched on to our metallic compounds and kill us that way?

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:37:28 2011 No.3751429

Have seen it before, but unfortunately, the paper is not available online for free. From the few, relatively short articles on this, it seems like they only made a metallic membrane that could be used for life? I'm not sure yet, but it appears like this might be overhyped by the press again. Interesting nonetheless, but I'm not quite sure what to make of it yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:38:28 2011 No.3751431 >>3751414 No but this is: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.201105068/abstract;jsessionid=47077BAA3982A903399C0C A378DE67D7.d03t01

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:39:28 2011 No.3751437 >>3751426 >>3751423 this isn't grey goo any more then regular bacteria is ... white goo. grey goo specifically refers to selfreplicating nanomachines. this is just boring old life

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:40:28 2011 No.3751440 >>3751429 >tv available for free >movies available for free >music available for free >scientific papers aren't why

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:41:28 2011 No.3751444 >>3751440 Because those are actually worth something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:41:28 2011 No.3751448 >>3751429 Yeah, they're getting the hype out early. Notice it says developING, not developed.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:42:28 2011 No.3751453
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>>3751358
Yes.
>>3751372
To demonstrate that "life" is a potentially much broader category than "life as we know it".
>>3751423
>grey goo
The planet has already been destroyed by green goo, see pic.
Deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:42:28 2011 No.3751455 >>3751444 isn't science supposed to spread knowledge?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:43:28 2011 No.3751461 the cool thing about this is that by demostrating that metallic life is possible, it implies that it probably has already evolved somewhere in the universe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:43:28 2011 No.3751462 >>3751453 >trees >destroying anything 0/10!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:44:28 2011 No.3751464 File: 86 KB, 598x600, 1296183493321.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3751455 If only...

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:45:28 2011 No.3751469 File: 5 KB, 210x230, 1296703449659.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3751464 But if science was free how would scientist get paid?

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:45:28 2011 No.3751471

>>3751455
Not really, science is a method. How you use it is up to you. Only half baked popsci articles confound science with the notion that it should be available to everyone. The majority , 99.99...%, will never have the cognitive ability to understand what was written and conducting research is expensive so there isn't really a benefit to giving out those papers since it takes away from the funding of projects.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:46:28 2011 No.3751475 >>3751440 most scientists are fucking money grubbing flithy jews hitler should have killed them all

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:47:28 2011 No.3751479 File: 33 KB, 411x514, reagan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3751462 You kiddies must be too new to this planet to remember the words of Wise Old President Reagan, who verily declared: >Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:47:28 2011 No.3751484

>>3751471
the sad thing is it would be insanely cheap for the government to pay whatever little money these journals get and make it available to everyone. sure your average person won't use it but tons of small companies, independent scientists/engineers/etc would.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:48:28 2011 No.3751486 File: 9 KB, 120x160, wernher von braun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3751475 LOLOLOLO >implying Germany wasn't the focal point of scientific advancement during the 3rd Reich.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:49:28 2011 No.3751498 >>3751469 Holy shit that reaction image you're using where did you find that?!

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:49:28 2011 No.3751496
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>>3751486
But what he was <span class="math">[/spoiler]>implying<span class="math">[/spoiler] is that the reason why science isn't free is because scientists are jews, so if they had exterminated the jews then science would be free.
As to why we don't have scientists that aren't jews is beyond .enem. me

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:49:28 2011 No.3751491 >>3751484 China, sure. But America can't afford a copy of a weekday newspaper.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:49:28 2011 No.3751493 >>3751486 >germans invent missles >jews discover quantum mechanics guess which one is more important

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:49:28 2011 No.3751489 >>3751392 not true. bacteria can also get you sick by releasing toxins

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:50:28 2011 No.3751500 >>3751498 4chan

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:50:28 2011 No.3751501 >>3751493 >implying it was all Einstein. Keep in mind the first fission reaction was produced by Germans in 1938.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:51:28 2011 No.3751511 >>3751501 It's always the Germans. Is there something Germans didn't come up with? I mean, fucking seriously guys.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:52:28 2011 No.3751515 File: 16 KB, 251x326, Erwin_Schrödinger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3751493 Quantum mechanics you say?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:53:28 2011 No.3751516 >>3751515 He was a Jew. A german jew.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:54:28 2011 No.3751521 >>3751516 No he wasn't. >His father was a Catholic and his mother was a Lutheran.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:55:28 2011 No.3751526

>>3751521
Interesting.
Okay, now why did we derail this thread into some kind of meta/new/ discussion?
Anyways, yeah interesting new life form OP, I mean, sub-life form if you could call it that.
At what point does a "living" (read: carbon based stuff) starts searching for "food" and what would be the equivalent to this metallic life form?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:56:28 2011 No.3751528 >>3751521 ...those are religiouns not ethnicitys

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 03:56:28 2011 No.3751531 File: 90 KB, 900x1050, 1301433057675.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ON THE WAY!

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 04:06:28 2011 No.3751558

We could use these as a medicine, programming them to enter our bodies and destroy pathogens.

We could use them as micro-constructors, building very tiny machines.

We could set some of them into an evolution cycle, and create complex metallic life.

SO MUCH POSSIBILITY.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 04:11:28 2011 No.3751566 aaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwww yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaah guuuuuuuuuuuuuurl time to make robots out of this shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 04:13:28 2011 No.3751578 >>3751558 useful. therefore not physics. therefore not science

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 04:14:28 2011 No.3751583 >>3751578 >anything that isn't physics isn't science Nice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 04:15:28 2011 No.3751590 >>3751515 >>3751501 many of the QM founders were driven out of germany because of hitler.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 04:16:28 2011 No.3751593 >>3751531 THE METAL LIVES THE METAL LIVES THE METAL LIVES

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 04:17:28 2011 No.3751597 >>3751583 Welcome to /sci/, where biology isn't a science and people can't believe you're an atheist without any evidence.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 04:18:28 2011 No.3751604 >>3751590 >mentioning Hitler for no reason >if we're gonna dick it up, we're gonna dick it up all the way

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 04:19:28 2011 No.3751610 >>3751604 ">implying Germany wasn't the focal point of scientific advancement during the 3rd Reich." yup, for no reason

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 04:21:28 2011 No.3751623 >>3751479 Since we now define CO2 as pollution, quite true given the relative size of biomass vs cars.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 04:28:28 2011 No.3751655 >>3751610 Because morals were ditched and experimentation without the Man meddling allowed them (and us) to advance very quickly. Too fucking bad they harmed a lot of people.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 04:37:28 2011 No.3751696

>>3751610
>implying the Third Reich didn't tout their own Deutsche Physik which was totally bullshit
>implying Germany didn't haet Nobel prize wieners during this time
>implying that the German Nuclear program did shit
>implying German achievements during the time weren't limited to purely military ventures

Yeah, Heil Hitler and all, but Germany wasn't some beacon of scientific achievement at the time. Most scientists left. They did give us a lot of cool guns though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 05:01:28 2011 No.3751800 >>3751623 but trees turn the CO2 they emit back into O2 and they provide habitat, food etc. Cars move the world but they add more junk than they're worth

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 05:02:28 2011 No.3751802

>>3751696

>Implying American scientific achievements weren't limited to military ventures at the time of discovery

>Implying radioactive waste dating back to the 3rd reich hasn't been found in the repository in Asse

>Implying this is of any importance to the OP

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 05:03:28 2011 No.3751805 >>3751800 >implying CO2 is indeed a form of pollution

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 05:05:28 2011 No.3751814

>>3751805
Pollution is the introduction of contaminants into a natural environment that causes instability, disorder, harm or discomfort to the ecosystem i.e. physical systems or living organisms.[1] Pollution can take the form of chemical substances or energy, such as noise, heat, or light. Pollutants, the elements of pollution, can be foreign substances or energies, or naturally occurring; when naturally occurring, they are considered contaminants when they exceed natural levels.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 05:07:28 2011 No.3751824 >>3751814 >implying CO2 levels haven't been higher during other time periods and shit was fine >implying we don't fill greenhouses with CO2 to increase tree/plant growth

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 05:09:28 2011 No.3751832 >>3751824 Actually he didn't imply either of those things...

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 05:13:28 2011 No.3751856

>>3751832

>the introduction of contaminants into a natural environment that causes instability, disorder, harm or discomfort to the ecosystem i.e. physical systems or living organisms

>when naturally occurring, they are considered contaminants when they exceed natural levels.

Read again

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 05:16:28 2011 No.3751870 >>3751516 >>3751516 Schrodinger was Austrian, and he was born Christian....

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 06:25:28 2011 No.3752084 bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 06:57:28 2011 No.3752146 >>3751870 Although back then Germany did some great advancements - no questioning of that - but their progress was based on decently immoral exploitation of people that worked on their projects. Therefore it was unsustainable on the long term.

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>>3751493

I don't care about the Jew vs ex. Nazi point of discussions,
btw ROCKETS are not less important than quantum at all, just remember that today rockets are still the only way to reach space.

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