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math major here
Can you tell me what this sentence means? " we shall suppose that these arguments and puzzle cases do present a prima facie challenge to those who defend the claim that the relevant concepts of the infinite could find legitimate application outside the realm of logic and mathematics"

>> No.3734107

>Our opinion is that before you can claim infinity applies to anything not math or philosophy related, you must first be able to understand and solve these problems to prove you know what the fuck you are talking about.

>> No.3734119

Let's remove bullshit-speak for you. Also, I wonder if there is a 'not' missing from your quote (between the 'do' and the 'present').

"these arguments and cases challenge those who claim that the infinite could find application outside mathematics"

>> No.3734121

"at a first glance, these arguments could be hard to solve if you want to claim that infinite and infinitesimals have any real-world applications." Could do better if I knew the context though. Btw, philosopher can't into math so I dunno why you bother reading that

>> No.3734123

The following is why the infinite should not be used outside mathematics or abstract logic.

>> No.3734137

The author is calling out on those who defend the use of applied infinity.
The arguments and puzzles are a challenge for the defenders to solve before they can really speak of applications?

>> No.3734146

>>3734123
>>3734137
this

>> No.3734151

What the quote means:

If you can't understand these problems, stop using the word infinity because it makes you look like a rube.

>> No.3734152

>>3734119
There is not a "not" missing. this is straight from the book.

>> No.3734179

I don't think the author is claiming the concept of infinity has no real applications, as he should know the first foundations of calculus were based on infinity and infinitesimals.

>> No.3734200

>>3734179
We're talking about the physical world, Johnny, the one where we can touch and see and smell.

>> No.3734217

>think infinity can be applied outside of logic and math? have some counter arguments.

>> No.3734238

"that stuff i just wrote about, seems to shit all over the practical use of infinity"

>> No.3734262
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http://www.amazon.com/Philosophical-Perspectives-Infinity-Graham-Oppy/dp/0521860679