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(a + b + c + d + e)^3 = abcde

98.9% of the population is unable to solve this problem. Can /sci/ find the value of every variable?

>> No.3722002

a=b=c=d=e=0 works. Or do you want the complete set of valid solutions>

>> No.3722010

>>3721996

There isnt any.
All i can see are constants.

>> No.3722015

>>3722010
How the fuck do you know?

>> No.3722024
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<span class="math"> (1+7+5+7+6)^3 = 17576 [/spoiler]

>> No.3722031

The simpest non-trivial solution would be for a=b=c=d=e=k!=0 :

(5k)^3 = k^5
125 = k^2
k = +/- sqrt(125)

I imagine there's a way to find the whole set of solutions, but I don't know it.

>> No.3722033

>>3722024
0/10

>> No.3722045

>>3721996

OP, is "abcde" supposed to be 5 numbers multiplied together, or a series of digits?

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>>3722033
are you implying that i was trolling?
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%281%2B7%2B5%2B7%2B6%29^3%3D17576

>> No.3722049

>>3722015

Because i am the Emperor of (1.1% of Population) Master Race.
Now kneel before me and weep in face of my mathematical might and magic!

>> No.3722051

>>3722045
multiplied

>> No.3722052

>>3722045
i presumed series of digits...fuck
which is it OP?

>> No.3722056

assume:
a=1 b=1 c=1 d=1

then

(4+e)^3=e
This equation can be solved
>just an example

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>>3722051
...fine
give me a minute.

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>>3722059
actually fuck it, i have no idea to approach the problem

>> No.3722076

>>3722065
EK, did you, even momentarily, really think you could solve this?

>> No.3722080

>>3722076
yeh...
i did it in like 2 minutes when i thought abcde meant a string of digits.

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>>3722076
>EK
>think you could solve

>> No.3722088

>>3722085

>EK
>think

>> No.3722090

Sci don't know how to binomial theorem

>> No.3722092

OP are you looking for an example of a solution, which are very easy to find
eg >>3722002
>>3722031
>>3722056

Or the general set of solutions?

>> No.3722097

>>3722090

>(a + b + c + d + e)
>binomial

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>everybody laughing at people failing to awnser correctly can't awnser it themselves

>> No.3722099

>>3722092
This is up to you. A general set of solutions would obviously be the most viable answer.

>> No.3722105

>>3722080

Congratulations.
Did that make you feel like you had something worthwhile to post in the science and mathematics forum?
What was it like to feel that way for the first time?

>> No.3722108

>>3722080
A correct solution (of the problem) would include a proof of uniqueness of your solution (of the equation), which you did not provide. Your solution seems like a "brute force" one. There could be other solutions, and if that is the case, then you certainly did not solve the problem.

>> No.3722115

>>3721996
another solution is when two of the abcde's are equal to -1 and 3 of them equal to one , or three equal to -1 and two equal to 1

>> No.3722113

redirecting
>>3722105
to
>>3722098

>> No.3722119

>>3722105
well i thought it was worthwhile if abcde is a string of digits. this is maths related.
and i've made worthwhile posts before.

>> No.3722120

(-1 + 1 + -1 + 1 + -1)^3 = (-1)(1)(-1)(1)(-1)
(-1)^3 = -1
-1 = -1

a = -1, b = +1, c = -1, d = +1, e = -1

>> No.3722126

>>3722115
(-1+1+-1+1+1)^3 = -1*1*-1*1*1

>> No.3722133

>>3722108
there are other solutions, mine isnt the only one, it is just the first one i found.
<span class="math"> (1+9+6+8+3)^3 = 19683 [/spoiler]
^there's another^
proof of not-unique with 1 example.

>> No.3722155

>>3722133
Very nice, assuming the calculations are correct. Now you have to provide ALL the solutions in order for you to say that you "did it".

>> No.3722163

(a+b+c+d+e)^3=abcde
(a+b+c+d+e)^3-abcde=0
The above's values range from -inf to +inf, so there MUST be solution to this for every considered four of variables, so this has infinite number of solutions.
I don't know what you wnat more from us

>> No.3722175

e = -(a+b+c+d)
Either a, b, c or d = 0.

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>>3722155
how about no?
i have better things to do than find every single solution to this fucking problem.
(actually i just realised it might not actually take that long, only values between 22^3 and 45^3 would need to be considered)
(..i'm still too lazy to do it tho)

>> No.3722183

>>3722177
All I'm just sayan is that "i did it in like 2 minutes when i thought abcde meant a string of digits." is a false statement.

>> No.3722185

>>3722177
actually i'm pretty sure the only solutions that work are the 2 that i posted anyway.

>> No.3722195

>>3722183
define 'i did it'
i found a solution.
when doing problems usually people just find one solution and thats it, if a problem is solved you dont need to go ahead and solve it in a different way just because you can. one answer is usually enough.

>> No.3722196

>>3722185
Prove it.

>> No.3722206

>>3722196
erm, i dont know how.
other than trial and error and you just presuming that i did it right.

>> No.3722250

>>3722206
e=/=4
e=/=9

>> No.3722310

One equation, 5 variables
Can't be "solved", can it? It's like the equation of a plane but for 5 dimensions
You have to give a value to 4 then you can probably always solve the 5th
If a,b,c,d = 0, e^3 = 0, e = 0
If a,b,c,d = 1, (4+e)^3 = e, e = ~-5.80

If a = 543, b = 2323, c = -8888888, d = 123456789
(114570767 + e)^3 = (123456789*-8888888*2323*543) * e
e = -1086

>> No.3722326

One solution per variable when the other 4 are fixed (to anything) in <span class="math">\mathbb{R}[/spoiler]. Up to three solutions when working in <span class="math">\mathbb{C}[/spoiler].

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=solve%28%28a%2Bb%2Bc%2Bd%2Be%29%5E3%3Da*b*c*d*e%29

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>>3721996
>one equation
>5 variables
>find the value of every variable
>/sci/ not pointing this out immediately

>> No.3722369

a = 1
b = 2
c = 3
d = -6
e = 0

Though, as long as a+b+c+d = 0 and e = 0, any value can be used for a, b, c, and d...
Am I missing something? That solves the equation, doesn't it?

>> No.3722371

>>3722352
In some cases, 1 equation with 5 variables can have a unique solution. Very simple example:
(a,b,c,d,e)=(1,1,1,1,1) in <span class="math">R^5[/spoiler].

If you want equations in dimension 1, then there are examples for diophantine equations. This is also true when there is a restriction on the possible solutions (like when some thought OP meant a, b, c, d and e were digits and abcde was the string of digits).

>> No.3722375

>>3722369
Sorry, not OP...
Forgot to change name.

>> No.3722383

>>3722371
>(a,b,c,d,e)=(1,1,1,1,1)
>mfw (1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1)^3 = 5^3 = 125 =/= 1^5