/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.3720028]

Over rated scientists thread? Over rated scientists thread.

[Anonymous No.3720039]

Your mom is overrated but she is not a scientist.

[Anonymous No.3720041]

Now kindly fuck off, OP.

[Anonymous No.3720087]

If anyone read up on him extensively, they would know his PHD came from formulating an early form of string theory, a potential Theory of Everything (TOE). But, the issue is, with a TOE, if there is a single exception to the predictions of the model, the entire model is useless except as a mathematical plaything.
String theorists are like alchemists were, when humans were beginning to truly understand chemistry. They are desperately modifying their models to fit the exceptions that keep popping up, the way they do this is add more and more compact dimensions. What this means, simply put, is that string theory is a generalization of both quantum mechanics and relativity. But there are holes in string theory. They patch these holes by further generalizing the existing theory, to more and more dimensions, creating mathematical explanations for the things it could not previously explain. This is why you hear about 6, 11, 26, etc dimensional superstring theory. There's even M-Theory which brings it to another level, abstracting the concept of 'strings' to membranes, which allows more phenomena to be explained (such as pre-big-bang conditions, which by the very nature of the big bang [it is surrounded by an event horizon before it creates time/space/energy] is an absurd and untestable statement that is pure conjecture).

[Anonymous No.3720110]

>michio kaku
>overrated

I don't know anybody that gives a fuck about him.

[Anonymous No.3720119]

Anyways, back to Mr Kaku. While he is an expert orator, he doesn't even BEGIN to approach Carl Sagan or Richard Feynman, or even Neil Degrasse Tyson in his eloquence, communications skills with the common man, and his capacity to spark interest in science. And what i mean by 'science' in that last sentence are theories that can be falsified by experiment. All of the predictions made by string theory (after all of the corrections applied to it to make it fit observation) are untestable because they require entire galaxies worth of energy densities to be crammed into a space smaller than a cube that is 1 planck length on each side. Verification of the string theoretical predictions would also require the uncertainty principle to be violated, because it would require observation without interaction, which we are currently incapable of.

All I want to know is why has he been embraced so heavily by 'the science crowd'? I used to listen to coast to coast AM for all the absurd alien encounters and strange claims made by people who sound like they're a little bit imbalanced, but I stopped listening after the 4th time Dr Kaku was on the show, because he would actually rationalize these callers delusions with statements like 'the probability that it could happen is very small but it is not impossible.'
If you know statistics or probability or have a general understanding of quantum mechanics, you would understand that all he did there is try to sell a book to a potential reader by telling them what they wanted to hear while not actually telling a lie.

[Anonymous No.3720136]

>>3720041
that is SUCH an autistic saying

[Anonymous No.3720137]

Neil deGrasse Tyson but he isn't a scientist, just overrated.

[Anonymous No.3720143]

If I see ONE Carl Sagan in this thread, I'm going to go apeshit.

[Anonymous No.3720156]

In my opinion, his colleague Wallace deserves more credit.

[Anonymous No.3720162]

as a black man i can easily say Neil deGrasse Tyson is probably on of the greatest scientest to ever teach, he makes it fun so all of us can understant but its too bad because of racim in america he will never be so popular

[Anonymous No.3720165]

In my opinion, his colleague Wallace deserves more credit.

[Anonymous No.3720175]

>>3720162
I don't think his unpopularity has anything to do with him being black.

The public just doesn't like scientists all that much.

[Anonymous No.3720178]

>>3720143
You've just invited a shitstorm.

>>3720136
I love that saying, but it does have an air of pretension that you can't really shrug off.
Unless you mean "Now kindly fuck off, OP."

[Anonymous No.3720193]

>>3720175
nope its racism, i dont like and i know you dont to but its the truth and it hurts so much but hey we keep trying and pushing and our time will come

[Anonymous No.3720199]

>>3720162
>teacher at a planetarium
>scientist
>>3720175
If anything he's only popular because he's black.

[Anonymous No.3720231]

>>3720199
ive seen him on tapes with richard dawkins so your are wrong

[Anonymous No.3720236]

>>3720199
ive seen him on videos with richard dawkins so your are wrong

[Anonymous No.3720245]

>>3720231
Not really. deGrasse Tyson didn't really do much for science at all. Being a media whore is not what a scientist does.

[Anonymous No.3720281]

>>3720245
lol i just hope everyone else sees this funny shit but i know you think so.

[Anonymous No.3720286]

>>3720245
go on to reddit and post this i dare you to try that there

[Anonymous No.3720307]

>>3720286
Why would I bother with hipsters who believe popsci is science?

[Anonymous No.3720352]

>>3720245
>Not really. Sagan didn't really do much for science at all. Being a media whore is not what a scientist does.

[Anonymous No.3720360]

>>3720352
Sagan has quite a high h index because of his numerous publications though. deGrasse Tyson didn't do more than a dissertation and discovered next to nothing.

[Anonymous No.3720373]

>>372>>3720360
dont bother anymore guys im just exposing the racism on this board dude is full of shit

[Anonymous No.3720376]

>>3720360
What exactly DID Sagan do? Can't expect much from an artsy stoner.

[Anonymous No.3720381]

>>3720373
>Racism is the reason I can't get ahead.
Must be really convenient using that excuse for your shortcomings even though you need half of my GPA to get in anywhere.

[Anonymous No.3720403]

>>3720376
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan#Scientific_achievements

Just some.

[Anonymous No.3720406]

>>3720381
you dont know me and dont know what i do so you will never understand it from a black point of view

[Anonymous No.3720410]

BLACK HOLES EMIT UNKNOWN UNOBSERVED RADIATION BECAUSE THEY MUST FOLLOW THE RULES OF THINGS WHICH ARE NOT BLACK HOLES. NOW GIVE ME A NOBEL PRIZE.

[Anonymous No.3720412]

>>3720403
>bla, bla, bla

So it helped a little and took a bunch of credit.

[Anonymous No.3720433]

>>3720406
Black point of view? You mean have your ancestors captured by rivaling African tribes then sold to people that later emancipate you but lack the common courtesy to appreciate the fact that if it wasn't for them you would be a slave back in Africa. Then always cry racism as an excuse for personal failures or when someone points out the fact that deGrasse Tyson is only famous because he's black, notice how the last guy at that planetarium is unknown. Seriously pathetic.

[Anonymous No.3720430]

ITT: /sci/ criticises people and ideas that they know almost nothing about, let alone could understand.

[Anonymous No.3720436]

>>3720410

...but the issue isn't comparing black holes to other things... it was allowing other things to follow the rules when they entered a black hole.

[Anonymous No.3720438]

>>3720087

So adapting a theory to explain phenomena is a bad thing in your mind?

[Anonymous No.3720450]

Oh my god, I can't believe people still think that minorities are held back because of "white racism." That's a pretty tough sell considering these facts:

1. Blacks and Hispanics need only a fraction of the qualifications of whites to get jobs or an education. Affirmative action.

2. Asians have been historically mistreated almost as much as blacks. The Japanese were literally in concentration camps. Yet Orientals tend to have higher incomes than whites on average!

3. Heritable IQ differences between races, and their effect on academic success.

4. Black nations that have NOT been colonized by whites are actually worse off than those which whitey has occupied.

[Anonymous No.3720460]

When is /sci/ going to get together and lynch Kaku?

[Anonymous No.3720466]

>>3720450
>Oh my god, I can't believe whites still think that they don't get better paying jobs solely based on the color of their skin

[Anonymous No.3720476]

>>3720466
LOL no. Diversity quotas mandate that minorities are hired even if the white guy has better qualifications. There is no law which mandates whites are hired over minorities.

[Anonymous No.3720481]

>>3720466
We're going to need some hard evidence for that.

[Anonymous No.3720489]

>>3720450
>Black nations that have NOT been colonized by whites are actually worse off than those which whitey has occupied.

>implying having your culture and people shit on and the introduction of technology is an improvement over no technology and keeping your culture

[Anonymous No.3720493]

>2011
>still believing in politcal false dichotomies

seriously, just cause I don't like corporations or capitalism doesn't mean I want to government to run everything or even exist.

[Anonymous No.3720500]

inb4 not a scientist

[Anonymous No.3720501]

>>3720450
>Asians have been historically mistreated almost as much as blacks. The Japanese were literally in concentration camps. Yet Orientals tend to have higher incomes than whites on average!
1) Most Asians in the US today are not descendants of the ones who were in the camps.
2) A decade in concentration camps is not the same as 400 years of forced labor and educational suppression.

[Anonymous No.3720511]

>>3720481
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States#Race_and_gender_disparities
PLENTY of sources too.

>>3720489
Medicine.
Honestly, people keep forgetting about medicine.

>>3720476
Wrong on both counts bro.

[Anonymous No.3720514]

>>3720501

400 years of forced labor?
The fuck are you on about?

[Anonymous No.3720533]

>>3720481
bitch I know this is a fact from actually working for a big corporation. So many white faggots who only hold supervisor positions because they're tall and white while the mexicans or asians who are actually hard workers and who know how to actually do the job get put in shitty foreman positions. I know you will deny this and claim that said faggots actually know there shit but whatever. Also being mexican I was valedictorian in a school of 85% white kids. My gpa was above every white boy/girl there.

[Anonymous No.3720540]

>>3720436

The rules of things which are not black holes.

Hawking radiation is a nice theory and it doesn't hurt to theorize but the likelihood of it being correct is extreeeeeeemly low.

[Anonymous No.3720545]

>>3720511
http://vimeo.com/5104173

[Anonymous No.3720547]

>>3720540
>Black holes do not follow the laws of physics.
Wut?

[Anonymous No.3720548]

>>3720493
Have you concocted some magical system to fill the void? Or do you just not like anything?

[Anonymous No.3720559]

>>3720533
ITP: subjective racist anecdote.

[Anonymous No.3720580]

>>3720533
The poster asked for hard evidence.

[Anonymous No.3720584]

>>3720533
Stop it you're making the people who aren't stupid and think racism is still a serious problem look bad.

[Anonymous No.3720590]

>>3720584
I do wat I want you silly white faggot. I specially love doing dem white gurls you feels me.

[Anonymous No.3720599]

>>3720584
Racism is a problem, just now it has a new set of targets. Whites and Asians who need to score higher than blacks or Hispanics to be accepted into college.

[Anonymous No.3720605]

>>3720547

It can be argued that black holes bend or break the first law of thermodynamics. They are not actually destroying energy or matter but it may be becoming inaccessible and it's ability to generate new data may be irreversibly diminished. There is little evidence to the contrary.

The laws of thermodynamics began like any other scientific theory, with observation. Over time the lack of a counter evidence galvanized theory into law. All of this occurred before the discovery of black holes. Now that they have been discovered and backed by evidence, we must now go back and amend the theory based on new observation instead of trying to weasel our way out of it with wild theories.

[Anonymous No.3720607]

lol

[Anonymous No.3720613]

>>3720607
>posting interracial porn as a "debate tactic"

Sure is living up to stereotypes in here.

So shall I. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.3720615]

>>3720607
Bestiality doesn't belong in a sfw board.

[Anonymous No.3720636]

>>3720533
sounds like a short mexican to me

[Anonymous No.3720666]

oh si

[Anonymous No.3720740]

What the fuck has this guy ever done? Seriously.

[Anonymous No.3720776]

>>3720740

Nothing more than trying to prove a negative and making a couple of documentaries bashing creationists.

[Anonymous No.3720831]

>>3720540

Didn't they prove it not very long ago?

[Anonymous No.3720846]

this Jew was nothing more than a media whore (like all Jews)

[Anonymous No.3721051]

great thread on /sci/ or greatest thread on /sci/?

[Anonymous No.3721055]

>>3720846
sagan was an astrophysicist

[Anonymous No.3721504]

>>3720740
HE HAS LIKELY DONE MORE WORK IN ETHOLOGY THAN YOU WILL EVER DO IN ANY FIELD OF SCIENCE.

[Anonymous No.3721653]

>>3721504

Epic butthurt detected!

[Anonymous No.3721736]

His Theory wasn't even exact.

[Anonymous No.3721755]

are we getting trolled?

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[Anonymous No.3721758]

Hooke is way overrated. Science could have done without him.

[Anonymous No.3721767]

Why does /sci/ seem to have so much buttmad for Kaku? He's doing a favor by trying to make science interesting for the masses.

[Anonymous No.3721769]

Shit tier:
Michio Kaku
Brian Cox
Neil DeGrasse Tyson
Richard Dawkins

God tier:
Carl Sagan

[Anonymous No.3721773]

>>3721767
Because string theory.

[Anonymous No.3722378]

>>3721773

>Because /sci/ latched on to the idea that "HURR DURR NOT SCIENCE" even when it doesn't know what it's talking about.

[Anonymous No.3722395]

>>3721758
The only reason anyone remembers him is because of Hooke's law and for getting in a bitching contest with Newton. He isn't over rated at all because no one really cares about him.

[Anonymous No.3722416]

God tier

Galileo
Newton
Einstein

Top tier

Feynman
Oppenheimer
Turing
Hawking
Bardeen

The rest I don't care about