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How soon to transhuman augmentation /sci/?

>> No.3692422

I don't know.

Just let me get my READING GLASSES and check BOOKS AND INTERNET to research that problem.

>> No.3692434

>>3692422
I would think you'd rather PARROT A BOOK ABOUT MAGICAL WANDS.

>> No.3692440

>>3692422
yes yes you're so clever and I'm not impressed. I'm asking about substantial human augmentation of the sort depicted in science fiction that would enhance the users capabilities beyond the minor corrective technologies we have available

>> No.3692472

Already, artificial legs are more effective than biological legs. Sprinters in the special olympics, using those spring-type legs, will be beating all the records in ten or twenty years. And normals will be left behind.

When we find a person willing to deliberately remove a functional biological part to install a cybernetic part, for something like sports or war, we'll be living in transhuman times. And when more than half of cybernetics are installed in this way, with no prior amputation or injury, there can be no argument. But that's just my idea. Really we could find no hard point when we weren't transhuman, and so no hard point when we will be.

It's gradual. The gradual process that started when we first picked up pointed sticks and made fire, and will end who knows where?

>> No.3692485

>>3692472
Their only better at a few things. Our legs can still do tasks like climbing stairs and such better

>> No.3692488

>>3692472
so true

but any idea of when this kind of transition point might occur? When military and government officials begin seriously funding and adopting this kind of research and get practical results, in other words

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Robert Freitas' work on Nanomedicine ended up as unintentional human augmentation (Theory, of course).

Look up respirocytes for the most well-studied example.

Pic related: Artificial blood cells, carry 300+ times as much Oxygen as a normal one, fraction of the size so you can, say, stay underwater for longer.

>> No.3692526

>>3692499
The main way you store oxygen is myoglobin. I would imagine a more efficient myoglobin would increase the time alot better due to the hemoglobin not being able to bind to the oxygen quite as well.

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2020s for good deep brain interfaces, but wider use of nerve interface for prosthetic limbs in 5-10.

>> No.3692536

>>3692499
Oh boy, won't be long until we have a SPARTAN program.

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>>3692526

This is strictly mechanical. No solution, no proteins or anything bumpy or random. Everything works electrically or mechanically, at the nanoscale, in a vacuum held by the outer diamond wall.

It's a machine-phase system, pic related.

>> No.3692563

>>3692554
But in order for the extra oxygen to be any use it has to be stored in the muscles so we can use it when we lack oxygen if we don't have enough myoglobin the excess oxygen will just go to waste or even cause more harm then good.

>> No.3692573

>>3692563

It can be released gradually from the respirocytes to whatever tissue you want.

Keyword here is gradually. I don't know anything about biotechnology, so I can't talk about myoglobin-on-steroids.

>> No.3692583

>>3692499

no one who takes nanotechnology serious is an actual scientist bro

>> No.3692587

>>3692573
The thing is you talked about artificial red blood cells which has nothing to do with myoglobin. Myoglobin is the protein in all the tissue that gets the oxygen from the hemoglobin. It is a control agent outside of the red blood cell.

>> No.3692615

>>3692440
Like binoculars? (super sight)
Like body armor? (super durability)
Like bicycles? (super speed)
Like clubs and levers? (super strength)
Like heavy coats? (super adaption)

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>>3692407
As soon as we get rid of the christians.

>> No.3693167

>>3692615
like all of the above integrated fully into a human being without the need for external manipulation

>> No.3693174

Sage for pseudo-science, circle-jerking and related idiocy.

>> No.3693249

 

>> No.3693263

>How soon to herp derp /sci/?
fix'd

>> No.3693265

One thing's for sure, I'm not asking for it.

>> No.3693276

>>3693174
>Sage for pseudo-science, circle-jerking and related idiocy.
but...but with out that /sci/ would be empty!

>> No.3693277

Aside from Doose Ecks farce, I don't think this will become out of hand to replace human organs or limbs in a matter of decades.

>> No.3693308

soon my friend...
http://spectrum.ieee.org/feb08/5957

the war between homo sapien superior and the inferior pure fags will come