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Hello, I am an ex-professor of biological sciences, and I would like to tell my story of redemption.

For me, “evolution“ was much more than just a scientific theory. It was a total world-and-life view, an alternate religion, a substitute for God. It gave me a feeling of my place in the universe, and a sense of my relationship to others, to society, and to the world of nature that had ultimately given me life. I knew who the “good guys” were, and where I was going.

I had heard Christians and other “religious fanatics” talk about “back to God, back to the Bible, back to this, or back to that.” But for me as an evolutionist, the best was yet to come. And, as a scientist and professor of biology, I could help make it happen. By contributing to advances in science and technology, both directly and through my students, I could be part of the process of bringing “heaven on earth.”

Let’s face it. Evolution is an exciting and appealing idea! A lot of scientific evidence can be used to support it. Perhaps most importantly for me and many others, evolution means there is no God, no “Creator” who sets the rules. Human beings are tops. Each of us is his or her own boss. We set our own rules, our own goals. We decide what’s best for us.

Want to hear more?

>> No.3687496

okay, i'd like to hear more

>> No.3687499
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http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/cfl/beginning-at-beginning
Scroll down a little ways.

>> No.3687501

The fuck are you talking about, bro.

>> No.3687504

I didn’t just believe evolution; I embraced it enthusiastically! And I taught it enthusiastically. I considered it one of my major missions as a science teacher to help my students rid themselves completely of old, “pre-scientific” superstitions, such as Christianity. In fact, I was almost fired once for teaching evolution so vigorously that I had Christian students crying in my class!

Then I got invited to a Bible study. How silly, I thought, that educated people nearing the 21st century would still study a dusty old outmoded book like the Bible. But the Bible study was led by the chemistry professor where I was teaching. More importantly, I was promised free coffee and donuts for coming. Now those are three of my favorite words: free … coffee … donuts! So, for less than honorable motives, my wife, Mary, and I set off for that Bible study. Besides, I thought, by pointing out all the obvious errors in the Bible, maybe I could convince them to study something more relevant, like evolution, for instance!

Most of the errors I tried to point out turned out to be my errors. The chemistry professor was a pretty good Bible teacher, and that got to be irritating. But the free coffee and donuts kept us coming back anyway. I soon learned, much to my amazement at first, that the Bible describes the origin and history of life on earth in a way dramatically different from evolution’s story:

>> No.3687507

>>3687483
No.

>>3687499
All you had to say was no.

>> No.3687508

In the beginning was God. With plan, purpose, and special acts of creation, God stretched out the heavens and clothed the earth with plants both “pleasant to the sight and good for food.” He created our first parents (Adam and Eve) in His own “image,” placed them in paradise (Eden) to live forever, and asked only for their love and trust.
Unfortunately, our first parents sinned—rejected God’s love and put their trust in their own opinions rather than God’s Word. That self-centered arrogance ruined the world God had created “all very good,” and brought death, disease, and disaster to the earth—a “bondage to decay.”
The early earth became so filled with violence and corruption that God destroyed it in a global flood to give the world a fresh start with Noah and those with him on the Ark. Sadly, human evil has again polluted God’s world, and the present world is destined for cleansing by fire. We might summarize the sad history of our planet as 3 C’s: Creation, Corruption, Catastrophe.
But we’re not without hope. There is a fourth “C.” The same God who created us, the same God who daily cares for us, is the same God who sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to conquer sin and death and to raise us to new life, rich and abundant, now and forever. As “new creations in Christ,” we wait for a “new heavens and new earth,” where “the wolf and the lamb will lie down together,” there will be no more pain, tears, or death, and peace and paradise will be perfectly restored.

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In the beginning was God. With plan, purpose, and special acts of creation, God stretched out the heavens and clothed the earth with plants both “pleasant to the sight and good for food.” He created our first parents (Adam and Eve) in His own “image,” placed them in paradise (Eden) to live forever, and asked only for their love and trust.
Unfortunately, our first parents sinned—rejected God’s love and put their trust in their own opinions rather than God’s Word. That self-centered arrogance ruined the world God had created “all very good,” and brought death, disease, and disaster to the earth—a “bondage to decay.”

>> No.3687513

Here’s one point on which everyone can agree: Evolution and the Bible paint radically different pictures of the origin, history, and destiny of life on earth! Of course, there are many different views about both evolution and creation (which we’ll discuss as we go along), and maybe it’s possible to “blend the best of both.” But to sharpen our understanding, we’ll consider the two “classic” views of origins that have been battling it out for the last 150 years or so.

According to “classic” evolution, our universe began with a “Big Bang,” a colossal explosion that scattered “dead” (non-living) matter throughout expanding space. Life on earth began purely by accident, without any plan or purpose, from a stupendously lucky clump of molecules that had the ability to reproduce. With life came struggle, and death; and those forms of life that inherited (again, by chance) traits more “fit” won the “struggle for survival,” killed off the competition, and paved the way for evolutionary expansion. Finally, the sun will burn out, the universe will expand or contract itself into oblivion, and life will be no more.

In short, the evolutionary history of the universe might be pictured as four B’s:

1. Big Bang
2. Big Chance
3. Big Struggle
4. Big Death

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Here’s one point on which everyone can agree: Evolution and the Bible paint radically different pictures of the origin, history, and destiny of life on earth! Of course, there are many different views about both evolution and creation (which we’ll discuss as we go along), and maybe it’s possible to “blend the best of both.” But to sharpen our understanding, we’ll consider the two “classic” views of origins that have been battling it out for the last 150 years or so.
According to “classic” evolution, our universe began with a “Big Bang,” a colossal explosion that scattered “dead” (non-living) matter throughout expanding space. Life on earth began purely by accident, without any plan or purpose, from a stupendously lucky clump of molecules that had the ability to reproduce. With life came struggle, and death; and those forms of life that inherited (again, by chance) traits more “fit” won the “struggle for survival,” killed off the competition, and paved the way for evolutionary expansion. Finally, the sun will burn out, the universe will expand or contract itself into oblivion, and life will be no more.

>> No.3687520

By contrast, the “classic” Biblical history of the universe might be pictured as four C’s:
1. Creation
2. Corruption
3. Catastrophe
4. Christ

Creation refers to the acts by which God brought into being time, matter, energy, space, and life, all working together in a paradise of perfect peace according to His divine plan and purpose. Corruption refers to how the effects of human evil ruined God’s handiwork, bringing disease, disaster, and death. Catastrophe refers to the worldwide Flood by which God destroyed the wickedness of the ancient world to give it a fresh start with Noah and those with him on the Ark. Christ is the One who conquered evil and death, and the One coming again to restore paradise, to establish life, rich and abundant, both now and forever, in the “new heavens and new earth.”

What a difference! In evolutionary thinking, chance and struggle produce “new and improved” forms of life. In Biblical thinking, chance and struggle produce disease, decline, and death. Evolution begins with dead things; living things—including us—are temporary intruders in the universe, and death wins at last. The Bible begins with the life of God; death is a temporary intruder, and eternal life wins at Christ’s return.

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What a difference! In evolutionary thinking, chance and struggle produce “new and improved” forms of life. In Biblical thinking, chance and struggle produce disease, decline, and death. Evolution begins with dead things; living things—including us—are temporary intruders in the universe, and death wins at last. The Bible begins with the life of God; death is a temporary intruder, and eternal life wins at Christ’s return.
Most people agree that it’s the Bible that has the happy ending: life triumphs over death. During an interview, a famous evolutionist and anti-creationist admitted that it would be nice to believe that we were especially created by a loving God who put us here to superintend the earth. But then he quickly added that it isn’t right. During a television program in which I also appeared, another leading evolutionist told how he had grown up in a religious household and had heard the “wonderful story” of a beautiful creation, ruined by man’s sin, restored by Christ’s love. But then he went on to say that the whole of his scientific training, indeed the whole development of science during the last 200 years, had convinced him the “wonderful story” was wrong. No matter how wonderful the story, it’s only self-deception (and a little stupid?) to believe it if it’s not true.

>> No.3687527

>>3687483
> Hello, I am an ex-professor of biological sciences, and I would like to tell my story of redemption.
> A bunch of shit that isn't true of evolution, proving you never knew it.
You were either never a professor, or you were so shitty at it that we're better off without you spewing ignorance in a classroom.
> stopped reading there.

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Calm down. There really are important issues at stake here, both personal and social. But that’s all the more reason to hold our emotions in check and to examine our beliefs calmly and rationally. After all, it’s important to know not only what we believe but why we believe it. Being comfortable and confident with our beliefs means that we have honestly considered the merits of beliefs different from ours. And understanding another’s beliefs helps to generate respect and compassion, even if the disagreement is deep, profound, and absolute.
This book is especially for those who love and/or respect science. In it I’d like to share with you some of the scientific evidence that helped to change me, as a biology professor, from an enthusiastic (even “evangelical”) belief in evolution to a belief instead that the Bible is the best guide to understanding God’s world and our place in His plan. But the Bible contains no explicit references to DNA, mutations, fossils, or Grand Canyon! My scientific applications of Biblical truths are no better than the evidence I use to support them.

>> No.3687541

wow sure is raging libtard in here

fucking faggot sodomizers on this website, go to hell

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>>3687541
This is a board for science, not christfaggotry. Go big or go home.