/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.3685365]

Old poeple... why do we let them live?

I think they are the biggest waste of money. They are the reason the economy is tanking. They waste federal money, company's money and don't to aanything to improve society.

A good plan after you retire is you get shot. If you are on disability you get shot as well. Would you think we would live in a much richer world without these poeple? Hitler did have a few good point, no?

[Anonymous No.3685373]

>>3685365
same reason we let you live OP.

[Fluttershy No.3685393]

Essintially this is what I advocate. If you are such a piece of shit that you werent able to accumulate any money in your 70 years and you dont have any family that can pay your bills then you should be left to starve or die of a curable condition. Nobody else should have to pay for your failure as a human being.

[resident /sci/ economist !!0CqB7P/574e No.3685398]

More like why are old people letting you live?

We arent in a position of authority where we can decide who gets to die. And even if we were, I would hope we have the decency to respect the lives of other people.

[Anonymous No.3685414]

OLD PEOPLE VOTE THEY ARE A LEGITIMATE VOTING BLOCK SO THE POLITICIANS ARE SCARED OF THEM AND THEIR INFLUENCE.
START VOTING AND YOU CAN PLAY WII TOO

[sage No.3685436]

>>3685393
So money is the only value to existence? The only measure of success? Go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.3685437]

What the fuck? At what age should we be permitted to steal from people? If they've paid for care in their old age, and they aren't getting it, we should all be concerned to live in a system that finds it reasonable to steal from you or change deals at a whim. Even if it's not doing that to us just yet.

[Anonymous No.3685442]

>>3685365
>>3685393

Because we're not fucking monsters and lucky for you assholes the modern world understands the importance of Altruism.
I'd be all for purity of the line and getting rid of genetic ailments and a better world; everyone wants a better world.
But you can't just go around commiting genocide for fuck sakes.
Advocate gene therapy or transhumanism or something actually helpfull.

[Anonymous No.3685447]

>>3685393

>implying they didn't pay taxes on the promise of being cared for

[Anonymous No.3685473]

>>3685373
this, If we started killing people for being a drain on society, most of /sci/ would dead shortly.

[Anonymous No.3685499]

>>3685365
The deal is, you pay for these old peepz medicine and shit (not entirely, as they have shit like retirement funds) and in return the future generation will do the same for you.

Bada bing bada boom.

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3685508]

>>3685447

> implying they chose to pay taxes

[Anonymous No.3685522]

I think we should harvest their bodies for nutrients, a la Soylent Green. But I get to be Charlton Heston. Fuck off, it's my role.

[Anonymous No.3685541]

>>3685473
i would survive for at least 3 more years under the pretense of "being a student"

[Anonymous No.3685552]

the reason the economy is tanking is because of people like you OP, who grab whatever they can and leave nothing behind.

[Anonymous No.3685563]

>>3685508

My point being; if we're forced to pay taxes, we might as well get something out of it.

Nobody chooses to pay them; but we're told that we pay them so that we get roads and police and defence and, in much of the world, pensions.

[Anonymous No.3685565]

>>3685552
I think the economy is tanking because of irresponsible practices by the banks

Might want to bring your theory up to economists though

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3685584]

>>3685565

Nope again. The economy is tanking because job creators are worried about Obama's next regulation, and his huge healthcare bill. Obama has granted thousands of waivers to states and businesses because the bill would put them out of business.

[Anonymous No.3685593]

>>3685565
irresponsible practices by the banks are committed by irresponsible people, usually they are ignorant of their acts, that's why there's a saying that every villian is the hero in their own play.

[Anonymous No.3685603]

Many tribal peoples kill their old women when they're too frail to care for themselves. The Tiwi of Australia are one such group. They bury the women with only their heads exposed, leaving them at the mercy of the elements.

[Anonymous No.3685605]

>>3685584
>2011
>rich people
>job creator
choose 0

[Anonymous No.3685640]

>>3685584
Trickle down economics ftw

/s

[Anonymous No.3685645]

>They are the reason the economy is tanking.

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3685649]

>>3685605

> 2011
> poor people
> job creators

Nope.

>>3685640

There is no such theory ever created by an economist. You are attacking a democrat talking point.

[Anonymous No.3685651]

>>3685603
tribal people dont even have fucking retirement benefits!

this has nothing to do with the already retarded topic

[Anonymous No.3685663]

Don't worry. Once Obamacare is implemented, they won't be living any more.

[Anonymous No.3685682]

>>3685649
Nice false dichotomy. People are either poor or rich, right

[Anonymous No.3685689]

>>3685663
Only if the death panels say so

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3685695]

>>3685663
>mfw there are people in the world that think like this

No lol, only sad.

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3685696]

>>3685682

Say poor.

> omg you are saying all people are poor or rich

Um, no.

[Anonymous No.3685717]

they live because while you were a slobbering sack of baby fat, rubbing your own shit on your face, they were out working 70 hours a week. they've EARNED the right to just sit around, unlike any other demographic.

[Anonymous No.3685726]

>>3685695
>>death panels proven fact
>>you can't handle it

Rationing is rationing.

[Anonymous No.3685730]

>>3685584
>>3685649
>>3685696
I think the economy is tanking because losers blame the government for everything instead of going out and making money (its not that hard)

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3685743]

>>3685730

It feels good to be making money right now.

[Anonymous No.3685746]

>>3685649
Giving money to medium and lower class people via government programs stimulate the economy more than tax cuts on "tax creators".

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3685769]

>>3685746

Giving money by first taking it out of the economy does nothing. You are trying to count the money twice. Let me help you out.

> person with private job
> spends 20,000 each year
> no money from the government

> person on welfare
> spends 10,000 a year

Trey spend less, and the money the spend was not created, it was taken and redistributed. So less money is being spent, and that somehow creates new jobs?

[Anonymous No.3685783]

If America employs the right to die, as part as the right to live constitutionally.

Then most of them would commit suicide (non Christians)

The reason the economy is tanking is because bush lead us to war.

But mainly because the government hasn't created a more efficient way at divulging funds.

[Anonymous No.3685785]

Also humanities indefinite goal is to provide the option to not stop growing.

and therefore not to become old.

[Anonymous No.3685789]

>>3685769
The money is (supposed to be) taken from rich people.

[Anonymous No.3685821]

>>3685717

OP here.

Here I'd the way I see live should be run.

Brith: loved, taken care of, shown how to clean, and take care of your self.

Age 4: get educated. Shown more responsible.

Age 10: talked and educated about the world. Not everything fun and games. And soon it's crunch time.

Age 13: pick a career, not sure? Well pick one anyways. Focus on it. Plus more education

Age 18: build on that career. Don't want to? McDonald's!


Age 18++: keep on on working till retirement.

Retirement: Execution time. We got no use for you.

Life Is: raise>educate>train>work>repopulate>death.

[Anonymous No.3685845]

>>3685821
>mc Donalds

>implying I'm not living off welfare

[Anonymous No.3685863]

OP again.

I'm not setting these rules saying I will not apply them to myself. Once the day comes I see no reason for anyone to continue living. They just leeching.

[Anonymous No.3685886]

I agree that pensions are shit and should be done away with, but being old isn't a crime.

[Anonymous No.3685897]

>>3685789

No its not you fucking looter

[Anonymous No.3685967]

OP... why do we let him live?

I think he is the biggest waste of money. He is the reason the economy is tanking. He wastes federal money, company's money and doesn't to aanything to improve society.

A good plan after you create this thread is you get shot. If you are on disability you get shot as well. Would you think we would live in a much richer world without this person? Hitler did have a few good point, no?

[Anonymous No.3685970]

>>3685897
Why not? If they're rich enough to buy yachts and planes and mansions, is giving money to the society the live in such a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.3685995]

>>3685970
It is because getting rich is the only real incentive to live in this world. Also if the rich start getting taxed heavily they could perform job cuts if they are business owners.

[Anonymous No.3686006]

>>3685995
You seem to be under the assumption that the rich (including business owners) are actually creating jobs. Which is wrong. They're using fear tactics to get out of taxes and the like.

I agree that a big goal in life is to get rich, but higher taxes aren't going to kill those people.

[Anonymous No.3686020]

>>3685967

I donate 15,000 a year, undeclared as getting a tax break on donating money is a pointless act that no government should do.


What do you do anon? Just sit there and so nothing!? Bitch how the poor getting poor and and the rich getting wealthier?

[Anonymous No.3686032]

Is this troll not obvious enough? Not even Hitler believed this.

[Anonymous No.3686034]

>>3686020
Pfft. I donate 100,000 a year, undeclared, and I pay EXTRA taxes for fun.

[Anonymous No.3686035]

It is in some part not their fault as the government takes away incentive for individual savings, but a bigger problem are Keynesian principles that abhor savings.

[Anonymous No.3686047]

> They are the reason the economy is tanking.
what

[Anonymous No.3686060]

>>3686047
This is a reasonable argument just not for right now as the unfunded liabilities for medicare and SS are astronomical, old people will be fucked either way.

[Anonymous No.3686087]

My opinion is that people should not retire, but simply keep going and just reduce their workload to compensate for reduced physical/mental abilities.

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3686104]

>>3685970

giving ≠ taken from

Giving is absolutely preferred. Charity is the best.

>>3686006

> poor people on welfare create jobs

Nope.

[Anonymous No.3686105]

I personally think we were better off in pre-industrial times when most people didn't live past their 70s (if that).

[Anonymous No.3686121]

>>3686104
Giving through taxes is still giving.

Poor people don't create jobs, but neither do corporations.

[Anonymous No.3686129]

>>3685442
I agree that anti-aging treatments would be better than euthanizing everyone.

[Anonymous No.3686142]

>>3685821
You clearly have never dealt with 4 year olds.

[Anonymous No.3686147]

Do you know how Einstein died? He had an aortic aneuryism and refused surgery, saying "It is tasteless to keep live alive artificially. I've accomplished enough; it's time to go now."

[Anonymous No.3686159]

I would bet anything that anyone who takes this stance will change their minds as they themselves become old

inb4 WAIT HOLD UP YOU MEAN I WON"T BE 14 FOREVER???

[Anonymous No.3686172]

>They waste federal money, company's money and don't do anything to improve society

Some do (those that still work). My dad's company has some salesmen in their 80s. They can't do the job the way a 40 year old could, but better they do something productive that sit around all day and wait for a nurse to wipe their rear end.

[Anonymous No.3686187]

>>3686159
Nah, I don't plan to live past 70 or so.

[Anonymous No.3686191]

>>3685365

I don't think we should shoot them, but I do think we should cut off the NHS them (yes I'm a Britfag) when they reach a certain age.

Currently the retirement age in this country is about 67, I say let them have a few years of peace and be care-free but when they reach say 75 they have to pay for the own medicine.

This is just my view and I don't claim to be the grand sage of all that is right.

[Anonymous No.3686198]

>>3686191
You won't think that when you're 75.

[Anonymous No.3686204]

>>3685995
>getting rich is the only real incentive to live in this world
hello-l wut

[Anonymous No.3686219]

>>3686191
Mebbe. I generally would say that old age doesn't really begin until 75.

[Anonymous No.3686228]

yes kill all old people

[Anonymous No.3686236]

This thread is possibly the scariest thing I've ever read. You guys are psychopaths.

[Anonymous No.3686238]

>>3686228
Forgot one.

[Anonymous No.3686247]

>>3686121

>Corporations
>Dont create Jobs

[Anonymous No.3686255]

>>3686238
This one too please.

[Anonymous No.3686256]

>>3686236
There's much worse threads I've seen that this. I would never euthanise someone against their will, although I myself don't want to live past 65 (the traditional retirement age)

[Anonymous No.3686262]

Was going to mention this guy, but nature already reclaimed him.

[Anonymous No.3686289]

Also...

[Anonymous No.3686312]

>>3685730
Or the unemployed waiting for the government to save them.

[Anonymous No.3686317]

Those greedy rich asshole should give me their money, it's not like I'm greedy or anything.

[Anonymous No.3686403]

I'd vote for you OP.

[Anonymous No.3686489]

Look at those old people, you can see they're happy.
Maybe the government is funding it, but can you see them?
They're happy.

[Anonymous No.3686514]

>>3686489
Yeh, but they probably have a positive outlook on life. People who think and act old tend to age worse. Think and act young and you'll have a much better life.

[Anonymous No.3686519]

>>3686489
> implying death is not the ultimate happiness

[Anonymous No.3686525]

>>3686489
>>government-funded happiness

If they want to give me free Oxycontin, I'm all for it.

[Anonymous No.3686527]

>>3686519
If there's a heaven. What if there's no heaven or worse you go to hell? That's not happiness.

[Anonymous No.3686543]

>>3686527
Hell isn't fire and brimstone you silly Protestant, it's merely the absence of God.

Ergo, hell is no different than a never-ending /sci/fag thread. Dull, annoying, but perfectly tolerable.

[Anonymous No.3686548]

>>3685365
0/10

[GATMOG !!lqLsDOLdqTJ No.3686581]

My grandpa is paying for my uni degree and overseas holiday so I don't know where you got that idea. You're faggot is probably doing less for the economy then half the old people have in their lives.

[Anonymous No.3686600]

Old people are useless. They just take up room. When you go to the bank(early in the morning) to do some business that can only be taken care of from a teller. You see a line up of old fuckers just wanting to update their bank book from what translation happened yesterday. And yes I do agree that they do take a lot of money from the government and businesses. Its imprinted in our brains that when you stick with a company and work hard you get rewarded by having a pension plan from both the government and the business you worked for all those long years. I mean comeon rewarded for doing what is the normal thing to do in life? Its real bullshit. The government can use this money for something else. And the company can use this money to hire more workers. Doesn't matter. They can even just give it to the CEOs its their money anyways.

[Anonymous No.3686606]

>>3686581

And how the fuck do you think he is paying for it? Fucking government support or pension plan.

[Anonymous No.3686607]

>>3686600
Except it's not their fucking money, that's what a retirement is you idiot.
You don't see old chinese men living the life after hitting a certain age, because most of their business don't have that kind of services.
Fucker.

[Anonymous No.3686608]

>>3686600
>Old people are useless

>People are useless.
FTFY
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.3686624]

>>3686543

My dream.

[Anonymous No.3686631]

I really shouldn't feed the trolls, but..
>>3686600
So when you personally are, say, 65 years old, you're OK with someone from the government coming to your door, explaining that you're "too old to be useful" anymore, and shooting you in the head?

Also: Do you have grandparents? You're OK with someone arbitrarily deciding they are a "drain on society" and putting them in the ground before their time?

How about your parents? Do you hate them? You want to see them dead in, say, 20 years from now?

What about your friends? Have any that are, say 5 to 10 years older than you are? How will you feel when they are considered too old and are put to death? Will you even miss them? Or are you such a misanthrope and sociopath that you won't even care?

Assuming you're not a complete sociopath, and can actually have meaningful relationships with other people, genuinely care about them, love them, etc.. What about your (eventual) wife? One day she'll be old and gray.. then the men in their dark suits come to the door, explain "it's the law, it's not personal, we're just doing our job, it's the will of the people, we're sorry, but it has to be done" and inject her with potassium cyanide.. and in less than a minute she's stone-cold dead -- and you're alone, she's GONE..

***

So how do you FEEL about all this? Do you feel BAD? If you don't, then you should think long and hard about why you don't.

[Anonymous No.3686687]

>>3686606
>>3686607
So where do you draw the line?
Most teenagers I've met, even when I *was* a teenager, are pretty fucking useless. They'd be more useful if they were fertilizer, actually, so let's just kill teenagers.
Small children are pretty useless, too. If they can't do some sort of meaningful work, even if it's just digging coal out of the ground all day, then they should be put down, they're just a total drain on our resources.
How about adults who are out-of-work for too long, and the homeless? Shoot them in the head, get them off the books!
Chronically sick people, people with expense-to-treat diseases like cancer, they're just too much trouble! Off to the rendering plant with them, make mulch out of them to help grow food for the strong!

..oops, there's nobody left. Guess we didn't stop ourselves from going too far down that slippery slope, did we? Oh, well, maybe some other species will evolve to take our place..

[Anonymous No.3686698]

>3686600 here.

Yes for all friends and relatives. This doesn't mean that before their time has come you can't love them, share memories with them. Somethings that you love so dearly sometimes need to be let go. You can't hold on to them forever. They have done their service. They have completed their task. Why should they continue on living? Spending millions of dollars on millions of dollars that can be used to do something else? Our lives here is just one thing. Build and repopulate, once you have done this you time is done.

[Xlore !!oIaXoksOFZm No.3686707]

>People thinking money should be the basis for who we let live and die.
>people thinking money has any relevance.

This whole thread is full of faggots.
I am beginning to hate this board also, non of this is science or math.

[Anonymous No.3686709]

you faggots have got it all wrong
there are too many people
too many old people aren't the problem
it's too many other people

therefore we take all the juicy weapons of mass death we've been making for the past 50 years, kill most of the rest of the world with atomic fire, but before hand we build giant underground bases

now this is where you might think OPs game still comes into play but no! We've got underground minigolf courses, retirement communities, all that shit.

We pimpin down here son, soon as that button goes we'll see ya in about 100 years. By then the oldsters will have kicked the bucket, but it will all be for a good thing.

When the new race of non-subhuman masters inherit this new world, it will be like eden reborn with all the wildlife that jesus intended. Merica will then have free rein on the world to use as it's best seen to be used. Keeping a smaller population so all live in luxury.

Oh yeah, also no nigs, jews, etc get to go into the bunkers so sorry OP, you and most of the multicult posters here are going to have to get shot.

[Anonymous No.3686715]

>>3686698
Well, tell you what:
Since 99.999999999999% of the rest of the world's population doesn't share your twisted, sociopathic views, but we *do* live in a more-or-less free world, here is my suggestion to you: Go right ahead and plan on killing *yourself* when you think you're too old to be 'useful' anymore, and to sweeten the pot I'll make a bet with you: You'll die of old age before you "get around to it".

/out

[Anonymous No.3686735]

>>3686707
No, this isn't at all a /sci/-related thread. This is a 100% troll-thread. At the very best, it's got a few dumb kids in it that, for the moment, really believe the bullshit they're posting here. Don't let it bother you, just ignore this thread and find something with some sense in it.

[Anonymous No.3686746]

>>3686709
>it will be like eden reborn with all the wildlife that >jesus intended
>jesus

Fucking baptist fag

[Anonymous No.3686767]

They spent their lives working to keep the world going.

Being paid in their later years is their repayment.

[Anonymous No.3686796]

>>3686767

Like I say why should you be rewarded for doing what should be done. That like we all get bonuses every year for not raping someone.

[Anonymous No.3686885]

I'll just leave this here:

http://listverse.com/2009/11/23/yet-another-10-commonly-believed-myths/

The error: The earth is dangerously overpopulated or is getting close to being so

This is a myth which has been around for quite some time – from the Anglican minister Malthus in the 18th century who said: “The power of population is indefinitely greater than the power in the earth to produce subsistence for man” to environmentalists who see humans as evil in comparison to the rest of nature. But, in truth, the world is a big place with plenty of space. So, how much land does it take to hold 6 billion people? To give you an idea, consider the small nation of Japan. It has about 143,000 square miles of area. One square mile has 5280 * 5280 = 27.9 million square feet. Japan has a total of about 4 trillion square feet, enough to give each person of the earth 670 square feet. If we housed people in families of four in simple two-level buildings (8 people per building, one family of four per level), each building could be on a lot of over 5300 square feet. If we used the American average of 8,000 square feet to four people, the entire population of the planet would fit into a space as big as Texas and Nevada combined – leaving the rest of the land for food production and entertainment venues. I should also mention that many countries in the west are now in a period of population implosion as families are getting smaller.

[Anonymous No.3687177]

>>3686885
The problem is that all those people are going to want all the middle class luxuries, which is simply too much of a burden on the planet. If everyone lived like the people from Africa, global warming wouldn't be a problem.

Inb4 global warming is left wing agenda