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>your university is starting an alternative medicine department

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Don't tell me this is really happening somewhere.

>> No.3681167

Petition them to add a flat earth department, too.

>> No.3681172

>>3681160
maybe it means scientific / historical approach to alternative medicine.

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I would so burn said department to the ground.

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>2011
>alternative medicine department
>why

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>> No.3681191

>>3681160
http://www.osher.hms.harvard.edu/

just one of them

>> No.3681198

So?
Some alternative medicines are actually quite helpful.

>> No.3681202 [DELETED] 

My uni has a "natural medicine" department already. It's 100% chicks.

>> No.3681206

Harvard? Jesus

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had to take a alternative medicine class at my pharmacy school

>> No.3681212

>>3681191
>>Complementary and Integrative Medical Therapies

Is this some obfuscation used so they don't have to call it "alternative medicine"? Like how "creationism" switched to "intelligent design"?

>> No.3681223

>>3681198
If they could be scientifically demonstrated to work they would not be alternative medicine, they would just be medicine.

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>2011
>Energy healing and chakras
>Non-scientifically-based folkloric remedies being given equal consideration and respect as scientifically-based modern medicine

>> No.3681229

>>3681212
Yeah, obfuscation and shit

My uni was running trials on IV Vitamin C to treat late stage cancer.

Met one of the "researchers", dude started ranting about how chemotherapy is evil and doesnt work

>> No.3681235

sometimes the placebo effect is all we have left to offer.

>> No.3681259

>>3681212
A lot of them have started using the term "complementary" because "alternative" suggests that people should stop going to real doctors.

>> No.3681262

>HURR IF IT'S NOT WESTERN REDUCTIONIST SCIENCE THEN IT ISN'T VALID DURR

Do you realize how stupid you sound?

>> No.3681268

>>3681223
Except most are just dismissed without any scientific investigation.

Sure most of it is crap and any effect is thanks to the placebo effect but there have been stuff in the past that have been proven to provide actually positive effects.

>> No.3681270

>>3681262
see
>>3681223

>> No.3681285

I'm seriously considering filling vials with water and selling them as homeopathic remedies. Alternative medicine seems like a goldmine if you have no sense of morality.

>> No.3681294

>>3681285
don't forget healing stones.

>> No.3681299

>>3681268
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31190909/ns/health-alternative_medicine/t/billion-spent-no-alternative-c
ures-found/

That's just false, US taxpayers have spent nearly 3 Billion dollars researching bullshit cures and they all end up shown to not work

Alt Medicine
>X cures cancer
>prove me wrong

Real Medicine
>Maybe X cures cancer
>let's test it before we sell it to people

>> No.3681296

>>3681268
List one form of alternative medicine that has been dismissed without any scientific investigation.

A common thing alternative medicine advocates do is ignore all the scientific research showing that their bullshit doesn't work, then pretend scientists are the ones ignoring them.

>> No.3681297

>Leftist scum standing in the way of science again based on their compulsion against business

>> No.3681302

>be a magician
>study psychology
>this bullshit is everywhere
>i can see right fucking through it
>sometimes it is even considered mainstream forms of therapy
>feel like shooting up my college
>dont do that because it would just be framed as a "phallic projection that resulted from a psychological castration"

>> No.3681300 [DELETED] 

>>3681285
The market is already saturated.

But if you're charismatic and fairly intelligent, you could become a "psychic."

>> No.3681316

>>3681262
this is alternative medicine. would you want this person to treat you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0c5yClip4o

>> No.3681338

>>3681302
And this is why /sci/ shits all over psychology

>> No.3681345

>>3681262

>HURR IF IT'S NOT WESTERN REDUCTIONIST SCIENCE THEN IT ISN'T VALID DURR

Yes.


>Do you realize how stupid you sound?

No.

>> No.3681350

>>3681300
There are literally hundreds of books on how to become a psychic. It is not hard. At fucking all.

>> No.3681362

>>3681345

Fuck off, you religious tool.

>> No.3681367

University of the future:
Department of Complementary Medicine
Department of Intelligent Design
Department of Overunity Devices
Department of Lorentz Ether Theory and Galilean Electrodynamics
Department of Ancient Astronaut Studies
Department of Earth Shape and Position Skepticism

>We used to have a parapsychology department, but we felt their methodology was overly rigorous and might have been contributing to negative energy pollution. We'll be adding a Department of Spirits and Magick to replace them.

>> No.3681391

>>3681367
inb4 polio and smallpox outbreaks destroy humanity when alt medicine rules the world

>> No.3681609

Without an approach anda definition of "alternative" this means nothing.

Clinical tests into the immune system response to the presence of alkaloids in echinacea? Double blind trials to the actual effectiveness of such folk remedies? I don't see a problem with that.

Some hippy with a handwritten syllabus for "crystal healing"? That's a whole other matter.

>> No.3681645

>>3681367
Oh, and we're also going to have a Department of the Elements. By which we mean earth, water, fire, and especially air:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyrFWbGiGOc

Somebody's got to train these specialists.

>> No.3684679

>>3681362

You are mentally retarded. It's called alternative medicine because it has no basis in scientific fact. I don't care which backward culture claims that alternative medicine works. It must be validated byp science, which necessarily places it outside the category of "alternative medicine" if found to be effective.

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"alternative medicine has either not been proved to work or has been proved not to work. do you know what they call alternative medicine that has been proved to work?
medicine."

>> No.3684732

>>3681316
The only thing I like from homeopatic medicine is that they taste like sweets.

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>>3684732
what? isnt it just water on its own?

>> No.3684758

>my university doesn't even have a biology department

>> No.3684773

>>3684725
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U

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>>3684758
WTF is this, the stone age? Where do you go to school?

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>>3684744
Water only? I don't think so, but it does contain sacharose and sometimes alcohol.

>> No.3684778

Thanks for the laugh guys. I literally laughed so hard I had to get up and go take a shit.

Cheers.

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>>3684773
+1
(oh wow, i just got exactly the same captcha twice in a row...what are the odds?)

>> No.3684794

>alternative medicine
>weed cures everything

imokwiththis.jpg

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>>3684775
Pic related, bro. I'm in the engineering department.

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>>3684788
That's a pretty nice logo.

>>3684794
Every presentation pro weed comes up with this. Not that I disagree with.

>> No.3684806

>>3684801
>nice logo
>it's a fucking box

>> No.3684815

>>3684806
>cooper-union-new-logo.jpg

Which is also a fucking box.

>> No.3684819

>>3681154
>>3681160
>>3681178
>>3681192
>>3681196
So much OP /b/tardlike samefagging going on at the beginning of the thread.

>> No.3684824

>>3681154
I was pretty depressed when they started an engineering college.

>Thats what apprenticeships are for

>> No.3684841

>>3684824
I was pretty disappointed when they started a medical college.

>Thats what apprenticeships are for

>> No.3684854

>>3684824
>>3684841
Sure is reductio as absurdum in this thread.

>> No.3684872

>>3681645
>>3681645
it actually pains me to listen to her talk

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>>3681154
>your university is starting an alternative medicine department

>> No.3684892

>>3681645
You see people shaking their heads 44 seconds in. Fucking. Brilliant.

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Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works?


MEDICINE!

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>>3684924
oh wow, thats really really funny!

oh wait, i already fucking said that.

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>>3684946
why are you so easily irritated?

>> No.3684987

>>3681299
Actually:

>X cures cancer
>Does it really?
>Well we can patent it.
>Well, lets just pay someone to say it cures cancer
>ok.

>> No.3684996

>>3684982
>>3684982

because shes a woman.

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>>3681645

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>>3684946
>Quotes a video
>Someone else also quotes the video
No, god damn it! Only I'm allowed to quote the video, it's mine! Only one quote per thread!

>> No.3685027

>your country paying for homeopaths
>with your money
>patients being lied to
>patients dying

THAT'S RIGHT BRITFAGS

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>>3684982
>>3684996
>>3685016

no, its just that it is irritating when people post without lurking the thread first, if you make a post that someone else has already made then its just fucking redundant and you are repeating information that is already in the thread!
it has nothing to do with me being a woman, and obviously other people can quote the video, but quoting the exact same thing as a quote already in a thread is fucking retarded!

>> No.3685065

>>3681645
Not exactly related to the thread but someone in the comments of that vid directed me here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9lmvX00TLY

This is what hipsters call art.

>> No.3685070

>>3684982
>>3684996
>>3685016

Not the person you're replying to.

its just that it is irritating when people post without lurking the thread first, if you make a post that someone else has already made then its just fucking redundant and you are repeating information that is already in the thread!

>> No.3685087

>>3685065
Jesus I knew before I opened it.

What did we ever do to you?

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>>3685065
>mfw

>> No.3685104

>>3685043
EK in thread, sage, hidden, ignored

>> No.3685132

>>3684725
I fucking love Tim Minchin

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Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works? Medicine

>> No.3685164

>>3685155
heh

You know what they call alternative medicine that works?

Medicine.

and thus the level of hatin' on EK gradually boils over and shits up the board, an entirely avoidable event EK could prevent were she to simply cease to attention whore.

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>>3685132
so do I
:D

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You know what they call alternative medicine that works?

Medicine.

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>>3685164
>she

I beg to differ

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>>3685176
[sarcasm] you know, that wasn't funny the first 3 times, but now that you've posted it again suddenly its so funny again! thank you so much for this funny and entertaining post [/sarcasm]

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hey guise, what do they call alternative medicine that works? Does anyone know?

>> No.3685240

>>3685201
>I beg to differ
I beg to differ. and/or [citation needed], he looks like a bitch.

>> No.3685241

>>3685230
They call it medicine.

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>>3685202
You know what they call alternative medicine that works?

Medicine.

>> No.3685244

>>3685230
They call them alternatives?

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>>3681229
>yfw Carl Sagan died of chemotherapy and not cancer.

>> No.3685686

>>3684987
more like:
X cures cancer.
Can we patent it?
No, it's just a simple molecule.
Then have our lobbyists get Congress/FDA to ban it. No point in curing cancer if we can't profit off of it.

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>>3681229
>My uni was running trials on IV Vitamin C to treat late stage cancer.

Do you think they just pull this theory out of their asses? It's not like it was proven to work by a TWO time Nobel prize winner...