Republicans Against Science

[Anonymous No.3655391]

Jon Huntsman Jr., a former Utah governor and ambassador to China, isn’t a serious contender for the Republican presidential nomination. And that’s too bad, because Mr. Hunstman has been willing to say the unsayable about the G.O.P. — namely, that it is becoming the “anti-science party.” This is an enormously important development. And it should terrify us.

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/642857-republicans-against-science

keep telling religion is not a problem

[Anonymous No.3655405]

>>3655391
hmm a political party composed of lawyers, businessmen and political "scientists" is against science? well colour me shocked

[Anonymous No.3655399]

Now, we don’t know who will win next year’s presidential election. But the odds are that one of these years the world’s greatest nation will find itself ruled by a party that is aggressively anti-science, indeed anti-knowledge. And, in a time of severe challenges — environmental, economic, and more — that’s a terrifying prospect.

[Anonymous No.3655413]

>>3655405

and that party will win next year

god bless murrika, like you say

[Anonymous No.3655421]

>>3655391
>I think there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects. And I think we are seeing almost weekly, or even daily, scientists are coming forward and questioning the original idea that man-made global warming is what is causing the climate to change.
>confirmed for Visitors

[Anonymous No.3655424]

>>3655405
> almost all politicians in the US
There's got to be another cause.

[Anonymous No.3655428]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/opinion/republicans-against-science.html?_r=2&emc=eta1

[Anonymous No.3655438]

>>3655424
there is no other cause, notice how science in the us has been going down the drain for the last 40 years.

[Anonymous No.3655452]

>''And the deepening anti-intellectualism of the political right, both within and beyond the G.O.P., extends far beyond the issue of climate change''

>implying there is 'left' in america

[Anonymous No.3655456]

I would be terrified if I were murrikan

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3655461]

>>3655391

Elections have consequences.

[Anonymous No.3655473]

>>3655456
if you were repmurikan, you wouldn't be conscious enough to be afraid.

[Anonymous No.3655476]

>>3655461
>Elections have consequences
>Implying the direction of policy changes following elections

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3655512]

>>3655476

People, in 'merica, try and get far away from failure. Elect Bush, the consequence is Obama. Obama is Bush II, so there will need to be a change.

[Anonymous No.3655534]

>>3655512
>People, in 'merica, try and get far away from failure
>Elect Bush twice

Uh huh.

[Anonymous No.3655535]

>>3655512
whoever they elect will act just like bush. the american political system is owned by the banks and they pay politicians from both parties. The way the political system is made now requires a winning candidate to invest at least 50 million dollars to have a small chance at getting elected, everyone else is supported by big banks and is almost guaranteed to win.

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3655545]

>>3655534

Hopenchange claimed by a black guy was the opposite of Bush. It is irrelevant that his policies were a continuation of Bush policies.

>>3655535

I would say Dr. Paul is less like Bush than any other candidate.

[Anonymous No.3655548]

>>3655512
>Obama
>Bush II

Maybe if republicans hadn't kept him hostage on the healthcare bill for a year, he would've have been able to get something done.

[Anonymous No.3655558]

>>3655545
ron paul will never get elected, he doesn't have enough money (1 million dollars is not enough) and he has no support from other politicians. If he wants to get elected he will have to sell-out like all the other candidates.

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3655563]

>>3655548

The democrats had huge majorities with absolute control over the house, the senate, and the presidency.

[Anonymous No.3655577]

Obama is not Bush II. In fact, Obama's willingness to not be a pushy asshole is exactly what's made him a good president so far.

[Anonymous No.3655581]

what has obama done so far?

[Anonymous No.3655593]

>>3655581
http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3655594]

>>3655558

Paul has raised 8 or 9 million so far this year. He also has about 5 million from the 35 million he raised in 2008.

[Anonymous No.3655592]

>absolute control
good one

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3655604]

>>3655577

> obama
> good president

laughingwhores.jpg

[Anonymous No.3655605]

>Richard Dawkins' website
>LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Anonymous No.3655611]

>>3655604

>Republicans
>good presidents

[Anonymous No.3655618]

>>3655611
>not libertarians
>good presidents

[Anonymous No.3655629]

>Paul Krugman
>in a thread about 'science'

you mean the guy that promotes the Broken Window Fallacy?

fucking idiot, it's not even about politics here, Krugman is fucking delusional

[Anonymous No.3655631]

>>3655594
Ron Paul is a terrible candidate. For one, he wishes for us to go back to the gold standard. Two: his foreign policy ideas are nuts.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3655635]

Can we just split America into two countries; progressive states and conservative states? Because frankly the 'United' States of America aren't very united.

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3655647]

>>3655635

Sounds good. The party of the governor determines where you do.

[Anonymous No.3655649]

>>3655581
1) Let engineers in the military

2) Started us in the right track for socialized medicine (most of the world already has it)

3) Killed Bin Laden

4) Signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in the defense procurement and contracting system

5) Established Credit Card Bill of Rights, preventing credit card companies from imposing arbitrary rate increases on customers

etc

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

[Anonymous No.3655652]

meanwhile liberals have fucked us by trying to ban GM foods, irradiation of food, nuclear power, wind power, hydroelectric power, any other form of power, cellphones for teh cancerz, etc etc

Liberals are the biggest fucking scaremongerers against ANYTHING that sounds too sciencey for their taste

Conservatives just gonna herp and derp over evolution, but that'll pass

[Anonymous No.3655656]

>>3655635
>Because frankly the 'United' States of America aren't very united.
That was supposed to be the point. Federal Government has been ever increasing the 1 size fits all policies that make the states (and their peoples) hate each other. If more control was wrested from the federal government you'll see a lot less loonies out to screw everyone when they can live happily in their own society.

The Godlike commerce clause needs to be reigned in for this to happen though.

[Anonymous No.3655661]

>>3655631
>gold standard
>not the best standard

>not invading Iran and various countries without following the Just War Doctrine
>not the most sane policy

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3655674]

>>3655656
Constitution already says 'Hands off state laws dickface' doesn't it? I would prefer just to have America move to a more federalist approach but it just ain't going to happen. Might as well just say fuck it and divide them.

[Anonymous No.3655680]

>>3655649
>Obamacare
>not the same as Romneycare
>not a failed, disastrous plan

as for all your other great achievements, are you forgetting he was going to end the wars, end Guantanamo, end the Patriot Act, stop throwing old ladies in jail for medicinal marijuana, stop the bullshit gay marriage debate?

looks like all he's done is got us into more debt than we can imagine

quit being such a fucking fanboy, not ANYONE of any ideology should be pleased with what this idiot has done

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3655688]

>>3655674

> i want more federalism

Haha. Just say what you really want-- a monarchy.

[Anonymous No.3655686]

>>3655652
As I recall, the most vocal resistance from the left was that GM foods are not required to be labeled as such so that the market can decide.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3655703]

>>3655680
Personally I wouldn't blame Obama. Financial interests from everywhere have a vice grip on his balls, and he wasn't exactly managing a large populace before his bid for presidency.

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3655712]

>>3655703

> the fault rests with ever yon but oabma

Oh you.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3655713]

>>3655688
Actually a benevolent dictatorship overseeing a technocratic democracy with a form of highly-automated libertarian leisure socialism.

[Anonymous No.3655711]

>>3655686
that's fine, but no, it was a lot more than that

more like tons of protests in Frankenstein suits and with signs demanding to get pig out of our tomato

fucking children

[Anonymous No.3655727]

>>3655652
How is banning GM food a bad thing?

The UE has banned them.
It also banned the use of certain phthalates, and restricted the use of antibiotic on cattle.

Meanwhile, it's impossible to find a GM-free yard in the US, and cattle is the first consumer of antibiotics.

Good thing there are governments to restrict the abuse of businesses.
Maybe you'd like to have all your rivers polluted like in China or to use coal to produce your own energy.
Oh wait.

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3655728]

>>3655713

> libertarian
> socialism

Pick only one.

[Anonymous No.3655735]

>>3655680

I voted for him with /sci/'s interests: Stem cells, engineer's rights, alternative energy, electric cars, nuclear energy and space travel. He reversed the ban on federal funding for stem cell research, appointed a nobel prize winning physicist as energy advisor, heavily funded research into improving solar panels and EV batteries, approved new nuclear power plant construction (Yes, this happened, look it up) and increased NASA's budget (The GOP has since reduced it again.)

That's not to mention support for modern highspeed rail and abortion rights.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3655741]

>>3655728
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

[Anonymous No.3655744]

>>3655728
No thanks. I'm a socialist libertarian, and there is nothing you can do about it.

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3655750]

>>3655741
>>3655744

Libertarians cannot support state removal of private property.

[Anonymous No.3655753]

>>3655744
Ma nig

[Anonymous No.3655748]

>>3655661
>>gold standard
>>government would actually owe Chinese and oil producers something besides worthless paper.

>>allowing Iran to produce Nuclear power (I.E. Weapons) gain more power in the middle east than they already have.
Actually, I'm okay with this. Then maybe the Arab States might actually work together against Iran.

[Anonymous No.3655757]

>>3655750
>>implying

[Anonymous No.3655761]

>>3655750
What's it like to live with so much cognitive dissonance? How do you function?

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3655763]

>>3655750
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism#Opposition_to_the_state

[Liberty !!nQrIRh+JHbs No.3655770]

>>3655763

> no state
> state removal of private property

Pick one.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3655782]

>>3655770
I'm sorry Jimmy but you failed your assignment. Could you please re-read and study the specified article before submitting your response?

[Anonymous No.3655783]

>>3655391
keep acting like it's a problem and it becomes a bigger problem.

[Anonymous No.3655829]

>releasing an, albeit true, statement regarding the Republican Party and it's stance on the sciences
>suddenly, this perennial flip-flopper and political degenerate is, for some reason, now supported

I know it is difficult for you, the easily swayed, to comprehend this, but supporting a candidate soley on the premise of one remarkably insignificant statement.

[Anonymous No.3655846]

>>3655782
You sure?

[Anonymous No.3655881]

>>3655413
God bless america indeed. Now, I'm no conservatard but the idea of social darwinism is looking mighty valid right about now. RIP America 1776-2001

[Anonymous No.3655905]

>>3655748


You DO owe money to them.

If america trues to pull something funny like "lol we no pay u" dollar would turn into green paper and that would completely destroy america.

For starters, no imported resources. At all. No oil, iron,bauxite, grain, rice, rare earth metals, nothing. You literally couldnt pay nigerian farmers because your money is green paper.

Second, every american owning legal tender, deposits or anything else in dollar is now broke. Their life savings is worth zero now. Anything related to dollar or american goverment is worthless too.

American banks collapse instantly. They cannot repay anyone, because their money reserves in dollar ar worthless and the government cant bail them out.

All american companies go bankrupt. They cant pay their subcontractors, importers, or even workers because their money, as you guessed it, is worthless.


Enjoy a brave new world of barter, looting, martial law, and EU/china/russia shitting all over you, especially the EU because you have just made the euro the prime currency of the world. Also, considering all the american companies are bankrupt they will buy out all of their assets, including patents for a pittance.

Economy 101, faggot.

[Anonymous No.3655935]

>>3655829
>> perennial flip-flopper
When has he flipped or flopped?
>>political degenerate
Utah is a fairly successful state, economically and politically.

[Anonymous No.3655938]

>>3655905

I have this mental image of some niggers in a 7/11 not understanding hyperinflation.

>WHACHU MEAN DEM MARB MENTHOLS COST TWO MILLIJUN DOLLAS A PACK HUUUUUH? U THINK IM DUMB UR SUMTHIN? UR RACIS GET YUUUR MANJEEER

[Anonymous No.3655951]

>>3655905
>>made the Euro the world reserve currency

Wut?
Last I checked, the Eurozone was worse off financially. Even with one rating agency downgrading US debt, demand for it rose. >economy 101
really?

[Anonymous No.3655957]

>>3655938
>>Hyperinflation
where?

[Anonymous No.3655974]

>>3655951


Actually, its not. Its a fuckload more stable and desirable than dollar right now. Dollar is sinking steadily in value for a few years now.

[Anonymous No.3655982]

>>3655957

america

soon


debt bubble lol

[Anonymous No.3655998]

>>3655951

By economy most people mean economy, not republican wishful thinking.

Contary to the popular belief, problems wont go away if you want it really, really hard and yell GOD BLESS AMERICA. You might even have to accuse people of being communists too.

[Anonymous No.3656007]

>>3655974

[Anonymous No.3656024]

>>3656007

Is that supposed to be a counterarguement? How?

[Anonymous No.3656045]

>>3655974
The dollar is obviously not "sinking in value for years now"
Euro debt easily exceeds US debt as a percentage of GDP

[Anonymous No.3656067]

>>3656045

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar#Exchange_rates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt

>MURRIKAH STRONG

>LALALALALLALALLA I CANR HEAR YOU LALALALLAA

This is exactly the behavior that let the debt go out of control.

[Anonymous No.3656068]

The average republican holds more debt and pays more interest relative to his or her income than the government does, relative to its income.

[Anonymous No.3656139]

Call me when the left isn't against nuclear energy, stops believing in blank slatism, when they learn something about economics, when they stop being against genetic engineering, when they stop telling us marijuana is harmless but a happy meal is poison, when they realize the state is not god and that reality is and what they assume should be and is reality are mutually exclusive.

[Anonymous No.3656154]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/04/03/the-end-of-christian-america.html
There is hope. We just need to continue to marginalize them

[Anonymous No.3656196]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/15/paul-krugman-fake-alien-invasion_n_926995.html

Keynesians are the biggest tards out there, they're economists without the slightest idea what wealth is, money is not wealth, products are wealth but to them all that matters is the flow of money regardless of what it is used to make.

[Anonymous No.3656216]

I would consider Dawkins anti science since he slanders the his entire knowledge of biology, throw it all away for memetics. This simply because biology was too scary and the world shouldn't be that way, Dawkins doesn't believe in god but he sure does believe in religion.