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I have so much to learn. Can you guys help me decide how.
Any physics. Any astromony.

Diffuculty level (1-4).
1 high school graduate
2 college student
3 college graduate
4 genius level

Books.
Textbooks.
Articles.
Movies/Documentaries/tv shows.
Other.

I'm also looking for good Science News Websites.

>> No.3646160

Self-Bump.

>> No.3646176

>I have so much to learn
Why?

>> No.3646224

>>3646176
Because the more I learn the more I want to know. I have learned what I once thought was a lot, but now it feels like I have barely seen a glimpse.
Not for a job or school if that's what your asking.

>> No.3646218

>>3646176
i second this

>> No.3646236

>>3646224
Neat. I feel the same way.

>> No.3646244

Ugh, that image. I hate pop science books.

>> No.3646246

BBC's environmental/science section is a hoot.

>> No.3646267

>>3646244
OP here. I read one of them so far. Just finished actual.
It was Cosmos. It was good, but didn't teach me that much for how long it takes to read.

>> No.3646299

>>3646267
>just finished actual
I meant actually.

But no one has any "Books, Textbooks, articles, movies/documentaries/tv shows, other" to suggest?

>> No.3646312

>>3646299

youtube[dot]com/watch?v=j3mhkYbznBk&list=FLXJ-torzSMl7gEan-bfv8qA&index=5&feature=plpp

>> No.3646336

>>3646312
Thanks. This is the sort of thing that I was looking for.

Does anyone have any more?

>> No.3646370

slightly different, but still VERY interesting

youtube[dot]com/watch?v=hWN_6jIXOXA&list=FLXJ-torzSMl7gEan-bfv8qA&index=4&feature=plpp

>> No.3646384

>>3646370
Thanks.

>> No.3646396

>>3646384

no probs, I'm in the same position as you, attempting to educate myself simply for the love of knowledge. GL!

>> No.3646404

>Trying to learn about science
>Doesn't have Six Easy Pieces by Richard Feynman
>2011

>> No.3646424

>>3646404
Not my list, it's from /lit/. It was the only picture I thought was relevant. But thanks for the suggestion. I'll get that book next.

>> No.3646433

>>3646424
After you read that get the next one, it's called Six Not So Easy Pieces.

If you have some extra cash and feel up to it, you can buy his complete lectures on physics, definitely up there in the up echelon as far as science books go and something to cherish for the rest of your life (unless someone proves quantum physics wrong lol)

http://www.amazon dot com/Feynman-Lectures-Physics-Set/dp/0201021153

>> No.3646461

>>3646433
That's actually not that bad of a price. I'm going to read the other two first and check the library before I would buy that though. Thanks man.

>> No.3646633

http://www.docs4you.org/forum/index.php?
http://forums.mvgroup.org/
https://onebigtorrent.org/

>> No.3646648

>>3646633
Thanks for the onebigtorrent, but I'm not going to create an account for the other ones.

>> No.3646657

OP, Nix Brian Greene. He be...stringy.

>> No.3646979

Even though The Brief history of time is pop-sci, it's still quite good. It gets confusing at times though. Hawking definitely isn't a writer.

>> No.3647140 [DELETED] 

>2011
>Not actual text books or research papers

ISHYGDDT

>> No.3647160

>>3646433

That's in the OP pic, just FYI.

Feynman's QED is also very good albeit a bit confusing at times for the uninitiated (like myself).

Brian Greene's alright. I've read the elegant universe, and the first half is decent. The second half delves a lot into specifics on string theory, which /sci/ despises, but it's still worth reading just to be informed (and by specifics I mean specific for a pop science book written for laymen.)

>> No.3647189

Thanks to anon who posted the full Feynman videos.

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>>3646099
>science lit

NONE OF THOSE ARE FUCKING SCIENCE LITERATURE!

GTFO!

>> No.3647237

>>3647199
I don't understand the hate behind pop science. I personally own a copy of A Briefer History of Time, even though in my opinion its mediocre, especially when Hawking can't explain for shit. You guys are like the autistic manchildren of /g/ who think anyone who doesn't run Arch are inferior.

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Diffuculty level:0.6 - college freshman
comeback after you have fished reading them

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>>3647237
you are the cancer killing science

>> No.3647259

If you actually want to learn Physics, buy a textbook.
All the pop-sci is great but Physics is not well represented in words. Get a University Physics textbook. Feynman Lectures on Physics, catch up on your maths, etc.

Documentaries are great to inspire, I think. I recommend Cosmos, Wonders of the Universe, most of the BBC Horizons documentaries.

Find all of that here:
https://sites.google.com/site/scienceandmathguide/

Textbooks, research papers:
http://bib.tiera.ru/static

>> No.3647264

>>3647253
Still, you seem to have an irrational hate towards pop science. I'm also interested in the technical science, but if we have more people who understand science as a whole, perhaps we should push it even further. I'm sure you and me both hold the same hatred for the faggots who is depicted in
>>3647199

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>>3647237
See, the people who complain about this are not scientists or science fans, but science hipsters.

They only like science when it's not popular.

This is why they hate, with a passion, anything that would explain scientific concepts to lay people.

>> No.3647275

Pop Science books are, overall, a force for good in the world. Better a small minority knowing a lot and a majority knowing a little than a small minority knowing a lot and a majority basically knowing nothing, whish is what the situation would be if people couldn't get pop science books.

>> No.3647279

>>3647272
Agreed. It seems some people are pretentious with their knowledge towards science, and hate on people with an understanding of it.

>> No.3647291

>>3647272
>scientific concepts
The problem is that science is not some game of concepts, it is not rhetoric. It is simply math to fit observation, interpretation and conceptual are worthless.

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>>3647279
I don't think that's it exactly.

I do know that people like that get their shit up in a roar when someone misquotes some scientific fact.

I know because I was like that when I was twelve. Fortunately I grew out of it, but it still makes me feel ashamed to remember the kind of person I was then.

>> No.3647295

Hey, I understand Quantum Mechanic and String theory before it was cool.
Now it's all known and shits...

>> No.3647296

>>3647291
>>Implying physical concepts are useless
>>Doesn't know shit
>>2011
>>constanza.jpg

>> No.3647299

>>3647296
They are not useless, they are however grand assumptions that merely serve as a conduit to theory and are not themselves science. Calling a conceptualization "science"speaks of complete misunderstanding of the epistemological grounding of the field.

You may as well read the Left Behind series as any pop-sci. They both have the same level of epistemology behind them.

>> No.3647305

>>3647299
CONSTANZA.JPG

>> No.3647318

wow /sci/ actually being helpful. now ive seen everything

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You don't learn shit in pop science books (assuming your over 10 years old). Get a REAL textbook if you want to start to learn anything. Hearing of the wonders of physics/science is not learning of physics or science.

First buy a Vector Calculus Textbook
Then a Gen Chemistry - University Physics - Probability/Statistics - Linear Algebra textbooks
Then somewhere around here you're supposed to have already learn programming and the basics EE/CompE.
Then Ordinary&Partial Differential equations - Mathematical Proofs - Organic Chem Textbooks - Experimental Physics/Error analysis
Then whatever you want to learn at the INTRODUCTORY level: Electromagnetism/Quantum & Atomic Physics/Astrophysics/Thermodynamics & Statistical Mechanics/Classical Mechanics
Next pick what you want to learn.
Then more math: Real/Complex Analysis, Abstract Algebra, Differential Geometry, etc in whatever you need to know to go farther in you chosen direction.
Finally get graduate textbooks and start reading published research papers

Then you might get a sense of real understanding of a SMALL aspect of science. Also somewhere along the way you would have gotten a BS/Master/PhD, usually... Then you learn the horrors of the Tenure track and peer reviewing and question why the fuck didn't you major in political science.

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>>3647347
jaded much?

>> No.3647389

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6136858/TTC_Particle_Physics_for_Non-Physicists_(compressed)
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3928478/TTC_VIDEO_-_Understanding_the_Universe_-_An_Introduction_to_
Astr

>> No.3647399

>>3647362
Electrical engineer here.
I am offended

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>>3647362
>engineers

What does homosex have to do with anything?

>> No.3647403

>>3647399
>engineer

Wat does cum taste like?

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Engineering thread?

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>>3647412
engineering thread?

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Engineering thread

>> No.3647574

This place is even easier to derail than /v/. Fucking hell.