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Why do we waste money on things like NASA when there are people in Africa who are starving? The space program was nothing but VERY expensive propaganda and it helped absolutely no one in a tangible empirical way.

>> No.3622334

Why don't we spend money on making them starve faster?
I mean you seriously don't wanna have them invade your country.

>> No.3622336

GPS. Boom.

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>>3622334
oh look a /new/fag

kindly fuck off the adults are talking

>> No.3622350

because its cool

>niggas space
oddly appropriate

>> No.3622359

Why waste your time planting crops when there are people who can't hunt or gather enough to live?

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>>3622359
ITT: /sci/ proves to be as retarded and ignorant as /b/

>> No.3622380

>>3622322
it is going to be incredibly tragic to see the mass starvation and warfare in africa in about 10-20 years when western governments/charity can no longer keep the populations fed.

seriously, people who donate massive amounts of food to africans are the most sadistic assholes on earth, anyone can see what they are setting up the africans for by allowing them to increase in number far beyond the carrying capacity of their societies and making them dependent on western aid.

>> No.3622383

The starvation in Africa is mostly due to dictatorships and resource allocation rather than actual scarcity.

tl;dr Money won't solve these problems.

>> No.3622395

>>3622383
if money can't, then, what can?

>> No.3622397

>>3622322
assuming money would actually solve the problem

Why don't you get your ass of the internet, and donate that money monthly to africa? why don't they make corporations who make billions annually donate more?

ITT: why not socialsim that you will claim as evil

>> No.3622400

>>3622397
>socialism
>evil
wat?

>> No.3622410

>>3622397
money will not solve africa's problems. in fact, it will only prolong and intensify the suffering of the people there. instead of donating money/food, the best thing people in the west who really want to help can do is try to improve prenatal -> young child nutrition to try to boost the average IQ of the population.

>> No.3622411

>>3622397
communism is far superior to socialism, if you are a socialist then you are a tool who doesn't want to do anything that you say.
>no money
>no classes
>no problems

>> No.3622416

>>3622411

> utopias can happen

Communists/fascists actually believe this.

>> No.3622420

We could be living off-planet within a few thousand years, even outlive the end of the Earth with what we get from learning about space exploration.
There will always be poor people, and it's awful, but throwing money at them won't help in the long run.

>> No.3622424

>>3622411
The idea of a perfect socialism is that nobody is lazy and works their hardest while everything is free and nobody is greedy.
The best utopia, and obviously impossible.

>> No.3622429

>>3622397
>op just wants to give money away
>you claim that op will call socialism evil

not the brightest guy are you...

>> No.3622428

>>3622322
besides being one of the most efficient drivers of economic growth in the last fifty years.

>> No.3622433

>>3622411
communist leaders are all engineers.

>> No.3622435

>>3622411
>no humans
>no problems
>kill everyone to make the world a better place
Troll politics general.

>> No.3622436

>>3622322
cant stop fapping.jpg

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>>3622433
Better to have technocrats than religious nutheads.

>> No.3622440

>>3622424
>>3622416
batshit repulicunts detected

go be retarded creationists somewhere else

>> No.3622444

>>3622395
I don't know what will help. But the fact that money won't help makes OP's point moot. Spending money on Africa instead of on NASA would not produce any progress.

>> No.3622453

>>3622440
I'd love to live in a perfect socialism, but nobody is willing, so far capitalism has shown to back fire HARD as the rich use their riches to get richer and keep you bruthas down.

But hey, you reap what you sow is what you could say about this system.
Until the meanies in suit old men start fucking with you.

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Name one good reason why we have to keep throwing resources their way.

>> No.3622463

>>3622461
Because they're suffering?

>> No.3622477

>>3622416
Right, but the libertarian free-market utopia is going to happen

>> No.3622478

>>3622463
They suffer no matter what. The taxes paid by US citizens must benefit those taxpayers and not go to those who can't help themselves

>> No.3622488

>>3622478
I'm sure the help the world provides has helped millions.
It might not save all of them, but just think about those who do.

Also, did you just insinuate that them suffering is not a good enough cause, or that we should not give a shit?

>> No.3622492

>>3622463

That's not good reason.

>> No.3622495

>>3622492
Go die.

>> No.3622496

>>3622478
>The taxes paid by US citizens must benefit those taxpayers and not go to those who can't help themselves

you're a greedy fucknut who needs to die, these people can't help themselves because of people like you.

>> No.3622497

the world potencies want Africa weak so they can ravage their riches.
no such thing as infrastructure development beyond the one that suits the reaping of the land by outside powers (oil rigs and oilducts, mineral explotation and shipping lanes are mandatory, securing sustentable and effective food production, political stability, the enforcement of rights [not the one to rape the earth and her inhabitants to better the situation of one's multiple bank accounts in assorted fiscal paradises, but the ones that should grant a good life, for humans and anything else] social justice, education and health are not, if not overly considered and treated as counterproductive)

>> No.3622505

>>3622488
no matter what we do they will continue to inflict suffering on themselves. it is literally unavoidable. all western aid has done is increase the raw number of people suffering and empower petty warlords.

serious question- do you actually care about their shitty existence, or do you just want to feel all warm, tingly, and morally superior because of how 'compassionate' you are?

how do you not expect to continue to get the same results when you continue to do the same thing? selfish, self-righteous people like this disgust me.

>> No.3622508

The money that NASA gets can be allocated to their other divisions. NASA's robotics division could create a large amount of practical solutions to problems both in the United States and the rest of the world.

>> No.3622510

If African women struggle so much to feed themselves or their children, why don't they just get a fucking job? Ever thought of that? Sending africa aid is just promoting their laziness. Never has there been a bigger leach on global societies.

>> No.3622522

>>3622497
why should it be the world's responsibility to do those things for africa? every other civilization created their own infrastructure, rights, safety, etc.

i mean, a big part of colonialism was the 'white man's burden' to bring western civilization to them, isn't it incredibly racist to assume they want the same things we want when it comes to what type of civilization they desire? don't their collective actions speak against that?

>> No.3622524

>>3622505
It is not "literally" unavoidable, it's pretty stupid to think that if you actually knew how resource managing works and what kind of land Africa is.
Something can be done for those warlords, and those children can be taken care of, but this needs a lot of resources on our part, and as such we should devise a good plan right now and do our best to try to help them out of their suffering.

I care for humanity, I care for when people suffer, and yes I feel good when I realize some people are happy, and I feel bad for people who are suffering.

Are you mad?

>> No.3622529

ITT: Kindergarten level morality.

>> No.3622535

>>3622505
>isn't it incredibly racist to assume they want the same things we want when it comes to what type of civilization they desire? don't their collective actions speak against that?
No. Everyone wants food and water. Not just white people.

>> No.3622545

>>3622505
You approach a group of people who are starving. You have the access to food and money/power to be able to help them. According to you, the most selfish thing you can do is to help them and prevent them from starving, while the most selfless thing to do would be to walk past them and say "We need to let them die, for their own good."

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even the "god" of the evolutionfags knew that africans are worhtless

>> No.3622551

>>3622535

Then it's rational for developed countries to want to keep their resources. Why should we be obligated to help them?

>> No.3622553

>>3622551
Because we can and should.

>> No.3622558

>>3622546
So would you know how to do any of those things inherently without other people telling you how? Or is it attributed to a spread of culture and idea?

Or are you really retarded?

>> No.3622562

ITT: people who lack basic empathy

>> No.3622567

>>3622546
>>3622546

I read origin of the species and cannot recall that line.
I call shenanigans. give citation or leave here forever dishonoured

>> No.3622583

>>3622558
Yeah, we really shouldn't expect them to take advantage of their surroundings. I mean, it takes a lot of creativity to figure out how to make animals do work for you.

>> No.3622593

>>3622558
>calling Darwin retarded

what are you some kind of creationist? similar technologies have evolved independently all around the world (excluding africa) this is an undeniable fact. Furthermore colonials brought them all the knowledge they needed to build a functional civilization, and yet they haven't.

>> No.3622594

>>3622567
I just googled it and the only places where I can even find mention of it are racist website or "anti-nigger" forums. So i'm gonna call bullshit and say it was made up by someone on the internet and perpetuated by those who liked it (of course the people on these websites/forums)

>> No.3622599

>>3622546
[citation needed] on that quote

>> No.3622601

>>3622593
> similar technologies were created all over the world
By people who emerged from Africa, natch.

>> No.3622608

>>3622593
Oh, did Darwin say that?

>> No.3622609

>>3622594
Top results:

stormfront.org
chimpout.com
niggermania.net

LOL

>> No.3622612

funny thing today was just reading a paper by nasa, they used evoultionary algorithms to develop an antenna which was better then anything any design company could make, in a shorter time.

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>>3622609

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just confirmed with ctrl+f in the google books Origin of the Species. That quote is totally made up. couldn't even find the first few words of it. pic related

>> No.3622639

does anybody have the numbers on population growth? i mean, eventually we're going to start fighting over resources and shit. so it might be worth it to get started on that space travel thing. and while i do think that spending money on starving africans is good, the current system of doling out goods and aid (that op seems to be advocating as he's never really specified what the aid money would be used for) is uprooting local businesses/farms and shit, keeping starving africans hooked on foreign aid instead of leading to long term growth.

>> No.3622647

>>3622601
>By people who emerged from Africa,
>who later bred with Neanderthals (who had significantly larger brains even accounting for body-size)

>> No.3622648

>>3622639
Yes exactly, I don't think we should keep the current system of aid for Africa.
I think it's time we step in and just declare that they're a helpless without us and force education and food on them, not like they'd reject it (sarcasm aside, we actually do need to device a new aid plan).

Warlords would, but fuck them they're not even humans.

Anyways, yeah space travel is good the OP went full retard there, but saying that we shouldn't give Africa aid? taking it too far.

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This is why. Sex in spaceships. Fuck the starving folk.

>> No.3622665

>>3622647
If that were true there would at least a single definitive gene that was found in all black people or the rest of us that wouldn't be found in the other

protip: there isn't

>> No.3622668

>>3622666
When shit hits the fan, fat fucks like you will be the first ones to go.

>> No.3622671

>>3622665
not samefag but there is evidence that non-africans bred with Neanderthals. But that evidence alone doesn't support what the other fag was insinuating.

>> No.3622672

>>3622648
OP was trolling

>The space program was nothing but VERY expensive propaganda and it helped absolutely no one in a tangible empirical way.
that should have set you off

>> No.3622673

>>3622545
no, i approach a group of people who have made no effort or progress (negative progress in fact) towards creating a stable civilization in the last 75-150 years after the euros pulled out. this is despite massive amounts of aid from western countries.

so, instead of continuing to do the same thing and perpetuating the hell on earth they live in, i argue for something else that has the potential of giving them a chance to develop into whatever civilization they choose without our interference.

are you really so arrogant to think that you know what is best for them? do you not see how giving people free food/etc when there hasn't been any significant short term natural disaster is incredibly damaging to any attempt by them to help themselves? how can a farmer, for instance, make any kind of living trying to sell crops when they are being given away for free?

temporary help in extreme circumstances? i am 100% for it.
permanent help designed to create dependence and kill initiative (even ignoring how it is abused by warlords/corrupt leaders)? evil, arrogant, and self serving.

seriously, you, and others like you, put your own desire to feel compassionate over forming and executing any plan that might have a hope of working. that is evil.

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>>3622668
Such heresy.
I want your balls, on a plate.

>> No.3622685

>>3622681
Calling me a heretic, yet you're the one who seems to deviate from human-empathy standards.

>> No.3622691

>>3622673
Nobody is giving away all their crops.

>are you really so arrogant to think that you know what is best for them
If I think it would be best for them not to starve to death, and that is an arrogant belief, than so be it.

It's not that I want to feel good about myself, It's that I want them to feel good about themselves (by not being on the brink of death), and I know that I can help them not starve to death

You have no sense of empathy and YOU are the arrogant one.

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>>3622685
You assume such standards are inherent. They are not. Sex is inherent however. You are the heretic of our species.

>> No.3622700

>>3622673
New generations make any effort or progress because they are starving from birth

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Every dollar spent on the Apollo program made $14 for America in terms of how many people it inspired to go forth into science and engineering professions and general optimism. Patents that NASA holds make 8 times more money than NASA's budget uses, and that money goes directly to the federal treasury.
Talk about profitable.

As for the people starving in Africa, this is less a challenge of supplying them with resources and more about ordering the distribution of them, as much of the stuff we send gets hoarded by corrupt rulers of the constituent nations.
We just have to wait for automation to advance over the next decade or so. Automated self-driving vehicles to transport cargo, building fabrication from surrounding mineral resources using molds and plasma gasification units directly on tonnes of normal soil, heliostats and portable LFTRs, normal and vertical farms for food security. Africa is near to tipping point which will allow it to join the ranks of the first world.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/11/29/the_african_miracle

>> No.3622707

>>3622700
can't make*

>> No.3622710

>>3622697
They are inherent, be it by a single group, people feel empathy in an instinctual level.

That's all I'm willing to tell you, I do not feel like following this "w40k heresy charade XD", what you just said is "fuck starving people", and that's a great offense and I'm only glad that I can imagine the person behind the screen of who I am talking to is a miserable being.

>> No.3622723

Still waiting for that Darwin quote citation. Not that it's unbelievable that he said it; but I just want to read it in its original context.

>> No.3622724

>>3622691
>Nobody is giving away all their crops.
massive amounts of food are being given away for free by western agencies.
this undercuts anyone who would try to farm for a living.
is this really that complicated?

>If I think it would be best for them not to starve to death, and that is an arrogant belief, than so be it.

>It's not that I want to feel good about myself, It's that I want them to feel good about themselves (by not being on the brink of death), and I know that I can help them not starve to death

>You have no sense of empathy and YOU are the arrogant one.

so your plan is to go on helping them forever in such a way that they can never become self sufficient. what happens when, i dunno, just pulling this out of my ass here, the governments and civilizations paying for all of this aid are out of money (even temporarily)? is this really a hard concept to grasp? i mean, look ahead to 10-20 years from now when europe and america are still in the shitter.

your way is naive and short sighted, designed to set these people up for misery on a scale not seen in human history. at least trying another way gives a hope that they can choose their own path, even if that happens to be murder, rape, and mayhem.

>> No.3622735

>implying the foreign aid program is actually doing anything
>implying it isn't private charities

>> No.3622736

We've (i.e. the West) been throwing money at the African issue for the past few decades already. The place (with a few notable exceptions--watch the Hans Rosling TED talks) is still a shit hole. I believe that only a concentrated effort on the scale of the Iraq occupation in every African country is needed to bring Africa out of it's warlord infested status quo.

In short, you'd need to spend way too much money to bring about real change, which in Africa means changing the very foundations of their society today. The NASA budget is completely insignificant compared to the amount of money and effort needed to change Africa.

>> No.3622742

>>3622723
He never said it. Someone on the internet made it up and this guy was foolish to believe anything he saw on the internet

>> No.3622745

>>3622723
>>3622723
>>3622723
>>3622723
>>3622723

3 of us discredited it publicly and embarrassingly in under 2 min.

pay attention. old news is old

>> No.3622746

>>3622724
In all honesty, that's fucking retarded.
It's already been explicitly said that the warlords and corrupt government is hoarding the resources like assholes, that's why we need to spend resources to finish them off and actually institutionalize a working system for them.
This requires resources and our help, not apathy.
Fuck you.

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>>3622710
Surely you jest. Empathy does exist but the perimeters of empathy are not fixed. I was stating the truth in how people care more about sexual enterprise then they do about the next person. This is natural, as is rape.

Sure there are more preferable ways to interact with people but they are not as simple. The universe loves simplicity of complex relations that serve little actual purpose in the end result. Babies.

Concider the fact that nearly half of all women "admit" to being "coerced"(Shame anyone?) into sex, or being raped. That is only the ones that admit it. Also consider that males generally only have to glance at a women's body in order for her to act as the sexual object the men see her as.

You think the world richer in kindness then that exists. Fantasy will not solve the crisis.

>> No.3622775

>>3622763
It will not, that's why we need to take action, and right now I'm arguing with a pair of faggots (or more) like you and some other asshole who think we should ignore the problem because "it can't be helped".
No, fuck you, we HAVE to help.
If you don't, you don't deserve to live.

>> No.3622780

>>3622672

>The space program was nothing but VERY expensive propaganda and it helped absolutely no one in a tangible empirical way.

People actually believe that though, since what they see of the space program are the rockets flying into space, the moon landings, etc. They don't see the technologies that ultimately went into commercial use, the knowledge gained by scientists, or the inspiration given to young people to become future innovators and discoverers.

>> No.3622783

>>3622775
>this is how liberals become fascists too

>> No.3622792

>>3622783
Facists for humanity, that's okay for me.

>> No.3622797

>>3622792
liberal fascists don't win wars.
right wing fascists do.

>WWII
>WWI

>> No.3622798

>>3622783

look up the definitions of liberalism (social AND classical)

look up the definition of fascism

Go do it. Now. Wikipedia.

>> No.3622803

>>3622797
Because they aren't really willing to fight, but I think we should just go on and exterminate those who aren't willing to help man kind.
Sorry broseph, if that's you who I am addressing you deserve it.

>> No.3622810

>>3622798
i'm sorry that you don't understand what coercion by force despite your political background is still fascism.
why do liberals want a police state where they are disarmed and only the police are, i don't know.

>> No.3622815

>>3622803
>LOL I TAKE THE MORAL HIGHGROUN
>I HAVE NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE SUPPORTINGM Y CLAIMS
>HAHA

>> No.3622819

>>3622797

WW2 was won by the bolsheviks (who were similarly totalitarian but ideologically distinct from the fascists) and the western liberal democracies. The fascists and imperialists all lost.

WW1 was the republics (with the exception of russia, which had first an emperor, then a republic, then a bolshevik one party state) vs authoritarian, royalist germany and austria.

>> No.3622823

>>3622819
>has never read the definition of a fascist state
>does not include the form of government but how it is enforced and propagated.

>> No.3622831

The survival of an overpopulated earth depends on a large agricultural infrastructure. There is not enough space on the planet to feed a huge population. The only possible scenario is an array of agricultural space colonies.

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>>3622775
Oh my, did I touch a nerve? You think me apathetic? Cruel? If only my life were so easy. I am actually a caregiver, and have been for the last 20 years(For no pay either). But I don't think my self better for taking care of people who can't do it themselves. I know that humanity is making progress towards a better world without upstarts like you trying to rush the process so hard it breaks.

Your pleas will go unanswered. Very few people are willing to go out of their way for some distant relative much less another race or culture. You are living on the backs of countless people who earn nothing, slaves. Just by using electronics, you are contributing to the problem. However your heart is in the right place trying to preach that we should help others by using the tools available, it won't help. It will only serve to aggravate those who would do harm to others for pleasure.

The only way to fix the system humans have put in place is to step outside it and help others directly. Not waiting for organizations to do it for you. They WONT do it. Its not profitable, and that means the organization would needlessly risk its own demise and possible enmity with the very customers they subside on.

Do tell me, how do you think you're going to reach anyone on such a disassociated interface as this one?

>> No.3622844

>>3622819
Actually, WWI was a vain battle of the empires. It wasn't good versus evil or a contest of ideology. It was all a bunch of pointless chest thumping by foolish leaders.

>> No.3622847

>>3622832
it's not the end result that matters, all that matters is that your intentions were pure and that you tried!
peace and love for all!
>this is what liberals actually believe.

>> No.3622849

>>3622832
I actually do tons of charity work, do you think I just shit on my chair all day?

Anyways, if you say you actually help people, then I don't know what to think about that because you just (even though you said you were "mocking") said we should just let negros go fuck themselves.
If that's your way of thinking, then you're a hypocrite, and I'm glad you are so as that's beneficial to mankind (to say, those who you have been helping)

>> No.3622851

>>3622832
> Oh my, did I touch a nerve?
Do you talk like this in reality? You're a faggot.

>> No.3622853

>>3622849
>lol i have no valid point
>i will just make an emotional appeal because i'm an emotional fuck up with no logic

>> No.3622856

Africa can suck a dick. Space exploration is the future of humanity.

>> No.3622861

>>3622853
Are you serious?
We're arguing about helping vs not helping people who need help.
I think it's pretty obvious what would be the correct decision to take.

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>>3622853
>>3622849
>>3622851
>>3622832
You're all bickering shitwads, shut up and get back on topic

>> No.3622873

>>3622861
you're arguing the humanist agenda.
no one actually believes that bullshit.

>> No.3622876

>>3622856
They'd get AIDS.

>> No.3622877

>>3622873
What humanist agenda?
People don't believe in helping other people?

Nah, fuck you, tons of people do.

>> No.3622881

>>3622877
not on the basis of just being human.
once you're out in the real world, instead of being clothed and fed by your mother, you'll realize that.

>> No.3622888

>>3622881
We'll see about that.

>> No.3622892

>>3622888
>lolnorubbuttetall
>butthurt

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>science board
>no one considers the fact that niggers in africa can't keep up with the rest of the world
>obvious differences in genetic make up

What's that selection that happens in nature?

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>>3622849
Hypocrite, that is a bit ironic hearing that. However well entertained I am, I am a bit saddened by your response. That served no point did it?

I really doubt your aims here are going anywhere other then satisfying your convoluted feelings. Which is exactly what a lot of people ascribe liberals as doing a lot of the time. However I am unfamiliar with anyone who associates with a group who actually makes a positive impact in the long run, or dares to think about all views at the impact of their emotional well being. The true meaning of empathy anyone?

You think yourself empathetic but show no real understanding of what that means.

>> No.3622907

>>3622899
>obvious differences in genetic make up
Really? You've discovered that single distinguishable gene that occurs in all Africans but not in the rest of us?

Why are you not on your way to getting your scientific journal published?

>> No.3622919

>>3622907
the varying degree of Neanderthal + homo sapiens = the different races

>> No.3622925

>>3622322
space is awesome, niggers are not

>> No.3622927

>>3622919
Homo sapiens could not breed with a neanderthal, otherwise they wouldn't have been different species in the first place

>> No.3622930

>>3622927
yes, let us forgo all scientific discovery in genetics of the past fifty years.

>> No.3622939

>>3622927

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/07/science/07neanderthal.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2010/0429/Study-suggests-humans-mated-with-Neanderthals

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/05/100506-science-neanderthals-humans-mated-interbred-d
na-gene/

http://news.discovery.com/history/neanderthal-human-mating.html

http://www.livescience.com/9910-humans-neanderthals-mated-making-part-caveman.html

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/05/06/human-neanderthal-mating-left-its-mark-in-the-h
uman-genome/

You were saying?

>> No.3622940

>>3622930
It may just be semantics, but two different species cannot interbreed. You must be referring to Homo Sapiens Sapiens and Homo Sapiens Neanderthalus?


Humans are actually remarkably genetically similar. There is no single gene, or group of genes for that matter, that exists in one race that cannot be found in any other.

I'm calling bullshit.

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>>3622930
What discovery? That Neanderthals differ in DNA as much as .5% from homo sapiens? Clearly more then enough to justify the fact we could of never breed with them.

Chimpanzee's differ only by .1% and we can't breed with them either.

Altho I would like to be proven wrong here. It'd be nice to hear that Neanderthals somehow survived by interbreeding.

>> No.3622945

>>3622940
neanderthelensis*

>> No.3622958

By the way I'm not calling bullshit that modern humans could be the descendants of homo sapiens sapiens and homo sapiens neanderthelensis interbreeding, I'm calling bullshit on the claim that different races are the result of homo sapiens sapiens breeding with different variations of homo sapiens neanderthelensis

>> No.3622963

>>3622919
"Neanderthal blood" does not determine different races, dumbfuck. The races of humans arose through isolated evolution.

Also, the "varying degree of Neanderthal" is almost perfectly the same across all non-African (sub-Saharan) populations. You'd know this if you had read the study.

>> No.3622965

>>3622958
have a person of a different race breed with another race. do so a couple generations.
the offspring, four or five generations down the line is dramatically different from the original couple.

>> No.3622975

I just don't think nigs are as evolved as other races.

>> No.3622978

>>3622963
you neglect to take into account the mass extinction that occurred, the amount of generations that were able to cross-breed for each group of people did matter in terms of how the races developed.

>> No.3622982

>>3622978
[citation needed] for each of your assertions

>> No.3622987

>>3622982
the world is round [citation needed]
google.
your lack of effort in not wishing to contradict your current beliefs are not evidence against the claim.

>> No.3623004

>>3622987
>implying I'm trying to shelter any beliefs (strawman) when I'm actually holding your arguments to scientific rigor
>implying what you wrote was even coherent

You dumb nigger. The claims you made, if I'm even sure you knew the proper usage of your terms, are not supported by any literature I have read. Show supporting evidence.

>> No.3623015

I don't think we should be cutting funding to NASA to feed starving Somalis. Cancel the F-35 project. That is about 400 billion dollars freed up right there.

>> No.3623026

>>3623004
well since i'm a dumb nigger
there is an article stating that humans are lacking in the genetic diversity of many other species, suggesting that at once time there was a mass extinction that snuffed out the majority of humanity.
since you're a genius, you can find it.

>> No.3623031

>>3623004
I agree with this man. What exactly does he want me to google? His claims seem kind of vague

>> No.3623035

>>3623026
Is that the only evidence it prevents? If it is, it's only a hypothesis. Why would this mass extinction not show up in the fossil record? etc..

brb finding and reading the article

>> No.3623038

>>3623035
presents, not prevents

>> No.3623044

>>3623035
considering that googling 'human mass extinction' just leads to doomsday sites, i don't think you'll find it.

>> No.3623051

>>3623035
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_bottleneck#Humans

If you don't like Wikipedia, they list the sources at the bottom in every article. Read those instead.

>> No.3623053

>>3623044
Google population bottleneck instead, dumbass.

>> No.3623058

>>3623031
>>3623035
>>3623053
since everyone was criticizing the idea at first and had no idea what to google, maekz sense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory

>> No.3623071

>>3622322
you have nasa to thank for the pc you are posting from

>> No.3623092

Oh. I actually remember watching something on the discovery channel about that about 5 6 or 7 years ago

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well I'm out, the trolling was fun while it lasted.

A manned mars mission > all of the third world
deal with it hippies