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http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Explorers+scramble+build+vessel+that+will+reach+Earth+deep
est+point/5294164/story.html

>It’s been more than 50 years since humanity ventured to the deepest place on Earth, but four crews now are racing to make a return trip.

>One of the futuristic crafts in the works comes courtesy of Graham Hawkes. For years his minisubmarine, which resembles an underwater fighter jet, has sat in a bare concrete room in Point Richmond, Calif.

>This fall, it is destined for a muddy gorge in the Mariana Trench, the world’s deepest known point, 36,000 feet below the surface of the Pacific Ocean near Guam.

>Hawkes is in good company in the pursuit of what many think will be the next big thing in human exploration: manned submersibles that can maneuver through the crushing pressure at the bottom of the world.

>"Avatar" director James Cameron is closing in with a team in Australia, and Florida-based Triton Submarines also is in the hunt. Another hopeful, scientist Sylvia Earle, is rounding out the pack with a kind of hovering deep sea space station, which her Alameda-based company promises will become a "world asset."

>a kind of hovering deep sea space station
>a kind of hovering deep sea space station
>a kind of hovering deep sea space station

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I lol'd heartily at the pic, OP.


>my faces when this thread

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Also, look at the fucking hull thickness. This is the first pic released that shows it clearly. That little inner pressure vessel is the only part of the vehicle that maintains 1atm, it's where the pilot lays down and peers through that dome.

What's crazy is, it wasn't good enough. In testing, it cracked under just 1/8th the pressure that it will experience in the Challenger Deep. Only James Cameron's custom built hydrobatic sub has passed pressure testing so far. I don't doubt Branson will catch up fast because obviously he has the money to, but kudos to Cameron for picking a winning design right out of the gate.

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What's strange is that Cameron's sub is a sister sub to Branson's. Same design, so it's weird that one of them passed pressure testing with flying colors and the other failed miserably. I wonder if one of them uses different materials?

I'd never get over it if the dome imploded on Branson while he was 6+ miles deep in the second trench on his 5 trench tour. It'd be a brutal way to die and the world needs visionaries like him.

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>In testing, it cracked under just 1/8th the pressure that it will experience in the Challenger Deep.
Eeeek.

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Here's the corresponding infographic for Branson's Deep Flight Superfalcon. Same designer, but couldn't cut it in testing. I'm amazed that Cameron could pull ahead of someone like Branson but I expect it'll still be a tight race.

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Why does it seem like every time I make a thread some motherfucker hacks the board and makes it unreadable. :I

>> No.3617172 [DELETED] 

Also I had no idea until recently that Sylvia Earle was Graham Hawkes' wife. I just didn't make the connection. Both are geniuses and tremendously accomplished subsea pioneers.

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Bump, this thread deserves a second chance at life.

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>a kind of hovering deep sea space station

I can find no information on this project online but this is what I imagine it might look like based on good science aka my wildest seabro desires.

>> No.3619566

>>3619535

What would be the purpose of that?

>> No.3619576

>>3619566
how about being FUCKING AWESOME

>> No.3619574

>>3619566

It's purpose is to be awesome.

>> No.3619583

>>3619574
>>3619576

Ok, but like, what's inside?

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"Mad Scientist only wants to explore the ocean because he wants to have kinky sex with new and exotic underwater creatures. Dolphins and hamsters are only able to sate him for so long." - a wise man

>> No.3619589

>>3619583

Awesomeness.

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>>3619566
>>3619583

The purpose would be the same as the Aquarius; To permit longterm experimentation underwater. Saturation diving from a habitat permits dives of 8-9 hours a day for weeks on end, while diving from a surface vessel permits hour long dives with the added expense of paying for a fully crewed ship for as long as you need it to linger onsite.

This one would be neutrally buoyant and hover in open water so that it could move. If they put it in the Gulf stream it will be able to 'orbit' the ocean, sampling from all parts of it.

>> No.3619635

>>3619604
>the added expense of paying for a fully crewed ship
>implying that's more than the expense of a giant underwater "space station"

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>>3619635

>the added expense of paying for a fully crewed ship
>implying that's more than the expense of a giant underwater "space station"

Yes, it is. Not on a one-time basis, but over several weeks. It's why Aquarius switched from a surface support barge to an autonomous life support buoy.

Diving while saturated permits nine times the dive length as 'bounce diving' from the surface. They're able to get vastly more done in a day than they possibly could from a ship and they stay much longer for much less money. The savings has long since paid for the upfront cost of the habitat itself.

>> No.3619679

WHY IS IT MANNED?

I'm no engineer, but the limitations of the human body seems like the weakest link in a submarine. A robot or drone could explore hella lot more.

>> No.3619690

Don't think I got an answer out of you last time MS. I've never been in the ocean, at all, ever. How does this make you feel?

>> No.3619700

>>3619690
This makes me feel sad. The ocean is amazing, you're missing out.

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>>3619679

>I'm no engineer, but the limitations of the human body seems like the weakest link in a submarine. A robot or drone could explore hella lot more.

We don't have robots capable of doing the kinds of work that Aquarius aquanauts do on the reef. It's easy to forget if you watch a lot of scifi, but robots just aren't as advanced as that yet.

Besides which, Aquarius is also used to train astronauts for future moon/mars base missions, and in October they'll be training for an asteroid mission using a neutrally buoyant suit and an artificial mockup asteroid, with the Aquarius as the analog to their asteroid exploration craft. You can't train astronauts by sending robots.

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>>3619690

It doesn't. I guess I do think you might enjoy a Sea Trek tour or an Atlantis submarine tour. It would show you the potential enjoyment in using technology to inhabit and explore the ocean.

>> No.3619733

>>3619679
to say weve been there

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The technology that later becomes really important usually sneaks up on people. First, it was computer technology. People expected to go to space and have rayguns, but that didn't happen, instead we got the information revolution. Now, rather than A.I., nanotech, and space, we're going to get biotech and underwater exploration. Feels fucking good man.

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>>3619779

It seems obvious in retrospect, doesn't it? The ocean is easier to get to and is rich in resources, not just precious metals (the same reason asteroid mining is often proposed) but edible biomass.

It's like an entire second planet worth of life and mineral resources right on our doorstep requiring only 1960s technology to explore, settle and industrialize.

And look at it this way; The economic boom from subsea expansion will create an economy in which aggressive space exploration is once again possible. The riches of the sea will send us to the stars.

>> No.3619868

I would do anything to get on that underwater station.

ANYTHING!

>> No.3619877

>>3619779
>ow, rather than A.I., nanotech, and space, we're going to get biotech and underwater exploration.

This is unfounded since A.I. and nanotech would also be a great boon to underwater exploration.

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>this one is pleased

>> No.3619994

>>3619877
If they exist.

They won't.

>> No.3620003

There's no reason for AI to be impossible and we already have primitive nanotech.

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>>3619868

>I would do anything to get on that underwater station.

Well, if you become a marine biologist or life support specialist you have a good chance of serving aboard our existing underwater station at some point.

>> No.3620008

Excellent, now we shall proceed to demonstrate whales and dolphins who dominates this water.

>> No.3620015

>>3620008
And by that I mean extermination.

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>>3620156
>>3620037
>Implying dolphins don't breathe air

>> No.3620284

http://www.ted.com/talks/david_gallo_shows_underwater_astonishments.html

The shits really interesting
fucking octopi, how do they work?

>> No.3620342

>a kind of hovering deep sea space station

A wild crack appears!
Its super effective!
Everyone drowns and is crushed by the pressure.

Maintenance will be a bitch on that thing.

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There are things in the deeps that mankind was not supposed to know.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!