/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.3576193]

Eating meat it immoral.

>But animals aren't even intel...

I am not talking about animals, bra.

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QloMOOG-bbE

[Anonymous No.3576203]

It's food you fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.3576225]

>>3576203
> moron

do you know what a troll is?

oh wait, /sci/is full of aspie tards, i forgot.

[Anonymous No.3576239]

>>3576203
>It's food

Yes. A food that is immoral to eat because it causes others to starve.

[Anonymous No.3576235]

>>3576225
I'm still watching your video, but your comment only wants to start a flamewar.

I'll delete it if you make a valid point.

[Anonymous No.3576250]

>>3576235

OP here. This >>3576225 isn't me.

[Anonymous No.3576258]

>>3576235
yeah i'm not the OP. the point is stop calling people trolls and then explaining to them why they are wrong. it makes you look like a complete fucking aspie idiot.

[Anonymous No.3576284]

Welp, now I've seen it, and I guess you're right about that eating vegetables would feed a lot more people, but there's nothing we can do (and I'm not going to join the hippies).
Enjoy your world destabilization, hippy.

[Anonymous No.3576289]

>>3576284
Also by nothing I mean we, as in /sci/, if it started to be a trend I would gladly join.

[Anonymous No.3576297]

>>3576284
The third world is rapidly modernizing, and meat is going to get really expensive soon. The world will automatically adjust.

No one is starving because there isn't enough food in the world. There is enough food. There are just some real assholes around the world who keep certain people from getting it.

[Anonymous No.3576299]

>>3576289

You can help making it a trend though. When everybody just waits, however, then nothing will happen.

[Anonymous No.3576313]

OP here, I'm a massive faggot

[Anonymous No.3576314]

>>3576193

how about... if you can't feed your children... don't breed.

[Anonymous No.3576317]

>>3576297
>There are just some real assholes around the world who keep certain people from getting it.

Who are these people? We could beat the living shit out of them or at least activate their door bells and run away.

[Anonymous No.3576322]

>>3576297
Are you sure about that? Everybody likes money, I'm sure it just has to do with the trading transportation just messing up.


>>3576299
No, it will not work, or I don't have the means to do so, sorry.
Nope I'm not going to go to the streets and behave like a fucking hippy, it has shown not to work before.

[Anonymous No.3576324]

>>3576314

wat do if you can't feed yourself though?

[Anonymous No.3576328]

>implying morals matter.

[Anonymous No.3576327]

>>3576314
A nice theory, but it's backwards in practice. Only modernization keeps birthrates down. The highest birthrates globally are among the ultra-poor.

[Anonymous No.3576331]

>>3576317
The man.

The man loves making people suffer for shit and giggles, he likes fucking negros up the most, they're his favorite.

Stick it to the man.

You don't fuck with the man, the man fucks with you.

[Anonymous No.3576341]

Only got halfway through the video because it made me rage.

IT'S ALL THE MAN IN THE SUIT'S FAULT. HE TRADES ARBRITRARILY AND MASSIVELY. Fuck you and everything you stand for.

[Anonymous No.3576344]

>entertainment is immoral
>anything that is not humanitarian is immoral
>not suffering with niggers is immoral

Fuck you OP, there are lots of things we could do but that would just be growing the inferior gene pools and giving us bigger problems down the road

[Anonymous No.3576345]

>>3576322

so you are admitting that in principle it would be better to reduce the overall meat consumption but you are still willing to reduce your personal meat consumption?

I don't get it...

You one of these guys who doesn't vote because "it's pointless"?

[Anonymous No.3576358]

>>3576317
Here's a couple of them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mugabe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_jong_il

Mao was also great for this. Caused millions to die of starvation, while he accused them of hiding grain from the state.

[Anonymous No.3576360]

>>3576345
Yeah, I'm one of those people.

Also, I don't understand your question, but if it was created by what I said then I think I'm pretty fucking retarded, or messed up badly.
Anyways yeah, it would make no difference even if I were the kindest person on earth to try to make everybody kind, a lot of people are just assholes and keep spreading like mad.

The answer? science.
Just use science to fix everything, and engineering and medicine, science to help humanity, not hippy propaganda.

[Anonymous No.3576369]

>>3576344

God forbid you even make a tiny sacrifice and be a responsible consumer, fatty.

[Anonymous No.3576373]

>>3576324

clearly, our total population is too high. I recommend we bring lions, leopards and wolves back into inhabited areas.

[Anonymous No.3576384]

>>3576369

We spend billions of dollars on movies and sports and consumer goods that could be used to help africa too. What is the difference.

Fuck you dumbass. You are hypocrite if you do anything that you enjoy while people are starving

[Anonymous No.3576391]

>>3576360
>hippy propaganda

Hey I hate people like Katherine Marion with a passion too but all I am saying is that eating less meat is a win-win situation for everybody.

I hope science soon grows cheap artifical meat but until then we could eat other stuff.

[Anonymous No.3576390]

>>3576384
You have a point, but there is also the fact that making ourselves poor won't make Africa rich. We have to do this in a way that works.

[Anonymous No.3576397]

>>3576369

>fat-american-kids.jpg
>Thai script on sign in background

Why do people still post this image?

[Anonymous No.3576404]

>>3576360

You realize THIS is what science is about, figuring out what causes problems and finding solutions.

...You don't think its meant to do anything except make better video games do you.

[Anonymous No.3576417]

>>3576384

You can't eat money. Something is wrong with your plan.

[Anonymous No.3576418]

>>3576404
This seems more like social science to me, which for me isn't like science at all.

Anyways, that's my opinion talking about an established fact, don't argue with it.

And no, I'm not going to fall for your hippy propaganda, I'm still going to eat meat.

And like I am you'll find 5.999999999 billion more, enjoy your uselessness.

[Anonymous No.3576420]

I have another solution. Donate your body after you die.

We finally have to start eating dying humans. It's the way of the future.

[Anonymous No.3576433]

It went full retard at the point where it suggested using organic food will be better for the food supply

[Anonymous No.3576437]

>>3576417

Confirmed for full retard

[Anonymous No.3576444]

>>3576433
It's pretty logical, if the cultivates were used almost entirely for cultivation instead of farming animals we could produce more food..

.. or atleast the video claims that anyways, because animals also need to eat to grow and stuff.

[Anonymous No.3576448]

.>>3576418
The last part isn't really coherent but can you give me something definitive that describes a hippy that isn't also a moral imperative
I'm not so well acquainted with American folklore

[Anonymous No.3576450]

Eating meat and having a grasp of evolution is cognitive dissonance.

[Anonymous No.3576459]

>>3576448
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqxdmMaTZA0

[Anonymous No.3576466]

>>3576433
GM crops would be better but allas no moneyz!
We could probably donate pesticides to greater effect but then we'd have to clean up afterwards.

[Anonymous No.3576510]

>>3576450

I agree with Singer. But using any of his arguments on the internet always results in an enormous shitstorm so I don't even bother anymore.

[Anonymous No.3576514]

>>3576444
Organic farming has a horrible yield per area compared to full industrial farming, with herbicides, pesticides and artificial fertilizers.
The guy has logical points, but the thing is littered with non sequitur.
The way to feed the world is megascale industrial farming with focus on maximizing yield by all means necessary, not some stupid pipe dream about some happy old farmer, living harmony with nature while sprinkling his fields with fairydust.

[Anonymous No.3576521]

>>3576450
Eating meat is what allowed for such great increases in the human brain. Umad?

P.S. I'm a <spoiler>vegetarian</fakehtmlbullshit>

[Anonymous No.3576563]

>>3576514
I agree thats what we should do, but you seem to be confusing this with a species governed by logic and/ or social responsibility

organic is cheaper, you can implement it anywhere and it'll sustain itself indefinitely
which means people will still starve,but for reasons less stupid

[Anonymous No.3576569]

>>3576239
>morals

[Anonymous No.3576573]

>>3576521
Lions eat meat, too, but they're not intelligent. It was genes and selective pressures which increased human brain size. The brain isn't composed of any nutrients that cannot be synthesized in situ from plant materials.

P.S. Elephants have big brains, and they're herbivores.

[Anonymous No.3576617]

>>3576193
>By using organic products which are less harmful to the environment
stopped listening there

[Anonymous No.3576733]

>>3576448

He's trying to claim that anyone who cares about the environment is a polygamous drug addicts with a superficial stance of primitivism which hides their utter lack of desire to understand the world around them. For historical reasons, such people are heavily associated with any attempt at not destroying the environment.

[Anonymous No.3576815]

>Meat is far less economical to produce than cereals.

I thought this was basic knowledge.

[Anonymous No.3576839]

>>3576514

That doesn't mean not taking advantage of crop rotation, crops that grow better near each other, or better methods of distributing fertilizer, herbicides,and pesticides. It means trying to avoid things like loss of fertilizer due to runoff and the indirect affect of using pesticides such as the affect on bird populations.

Something the video didn't mention, but that I think is important, is that robotics can be used to manage crops with greater precision, planting seeds in individual holes rather that huge troughs or tiles ground, and in intricate configurations designed to increase yield. Searching through crops hunt weeds and plants, injecting and spraying where needed, but when possible shredding up the offending organisms for use in waste heat combustion engines.

In addition, eating less meat doesn't mean eating no meat. Maybe only have meat with one meal a day on average instead of two or three, and try having meat that takes less energy than steak, like chicken or insects. It's not going to make you run out into the street wearing tie-dye with a blunt in your hand.