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3556838 No.3556838 [Reply] [Original]

I remember hearing earlier this year that some Japanese scientists are trying to clone a wooly mammoth.

What's up with this, and if they're successful, what does this mean for the future of the research of ancient/extinct animals?

>> No.3556853 [DELETED] 

>mfw Neanderthals had bigger brains than us
>mfw they were too smart to survive
>mfw we bring them back
>mfw they take back their planet

Take that homos

>> No.3556859
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3556859

It means we can do what ever we want with no consequences.

>> No.3556861

>>3556838
Presumably you're working your way down to possible cloning of dinosaurs from fossils, a la Jurassic park?

Yup, not gonna happen...

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3556867

>>3556853
>too smart to survive
>never invented anything but a stick

>> No.3556871 [DELETED] 

>>3556853
>says "mfw" over and over again
> no reaction picture
>mfw

>> No.3556892 [DELETED] 

>>3556871
>angry at someone for saying mfw without a pic
>posts mfw
>forgets pic
]>|idiot

>> No.3556903

>>3556861
Nah, I wasn't thinking things like that. More like bringing back creatures like Tazmanian Tigers and dodo birds and the like. Recently extinct creatures.

>> No.3556944

>>3556903
bump

>> No.3557065

>>3556867

They couldn't communicate orally because no voice box. Each one of them was much more intelligent than each one of us, but as a society we were much smarter because ideas could be communicated

>> No.3557074

>What's up with this, and if they're successful, what does this mean for the future

extra warm scarves

>> No.3557076

>>3557065
>They couldn't communicate orally because no voice box

Wrong. Where do you get your information? Their voices were different, but still distinguishable and they had a voice box. They even had the FOXP2 (language) gene.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13672-neanderthals-speak-out-after-30000-years.html

>> No.3557086

>what does this mean for the future of the research of ancient/extinct animals?

Very few species leave behind DNA preserved well enough for it to be cloned and those mammoths will be hybrids so they're not really true mammoths. What does it matter anyway? From now and the time you're enjoying mammoth burgers, thousands of species in South America and Africa have gone extinct and never to be resurrected.

>> No.3557089

>>3557076

>limited speech

That's what I meant. Their mouts weren't shaped right and as a result complex ideas became very difficult to communicate orally.

>> No.3557092

>>3556838
>What's up with this, and if they're successful, what does this mean for the future of the research of ancient/extinct animals?

We can only clone extinct animals for which there are compatible extant (not extinct) female animals to carry the embryo. For the wooly mammoth, obviously they would use a female elephant.

>> No.3557112

>>3557089
>Their mouts weren't shaped right and as a result complex ideas became very difficult to communicate orally.

[citation needed]

Maybe you think their protruding midface caused an inability to speak, but then why do many humans have that trait and are still able to speak just as well? But read the article. It is extremely likely they did have a language, however rudimentary. Whatever primitive nature of the language would be a result of mental shortcomings rather than anatomy, since all bones excavated of Neanderthals have unearthed voice boxes very similar to our own.

Again, I don't know where you're getting your information from.

>> No.3557119

>>3556861
Let's hope that this time they don't "complete" the "gaps" in the DNA with amphibian DNA instead of a closer relative, like crocodilians or fucking birds.

>> No.3557134

>>3557092
There may yet be hope for the thousands of amphibian species bordering on extinction because of the chytrid fungus...

>> No.3557146

I guess I read something about frozen mammoths. They can easily get genetic material from there, but I don't know how they're going to breed them.

>> No.3557158

But what about things like Tasmanian Tigers and Dodo birds?

>> No.3557166

>>3557158
or them giant penguins that were loike 2 metres tall

>> No.3557284

>>3557166
what?

>> No.3557843

>>3557112

I got that from the link you posted bro

>> No.3557861

bring back the 15 foot sloths and saber tooth tigers

>> No.3557886

>Clone extinct animals
>Tiny gene pool
>Animal goes extinct
>Clone again

>> No.3558011

>>3556838
Did they get anywhere with it?

>> No.3558669

>>3556853
>Implying bigger brains necessarily means more intelligent
>Implying intelligence was the only factor in their survival