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3555415 No.3555415 [Reply] [Original]

>yfw you meet somebody more intelligent than you

Not fair man, not fair.

>> No.3555428
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3555428

>my fist when

>> No.3555501

Depends on how "more intelligent" that person is. Like if talking to him/her makes me think about some thing more deeply, I wouldn't get mad.

Whom did you meet?

>> No.3555518
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3555518

I've never met anyone more intelligent than me.

>> No.3555526

>>3555415
so? who fucking cares, you aspie? just worry about your own fucking life.

fuck, /sci/ is so fucking stupid now.

>> No.3555531

>>3555415
so far I haven't
I know people on the same level as me however

>> No.3555534
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3555534

I really enjoy meeting people more intelligent than me, if only to get a different perspective and keep my ego in check. Pic related, it is mfw.

>> No.3555547

why does this exact thread keep getting posted
I check sci like once a week and there's always this thread on the page 0

>> No.3555553

>>3555531
Hahaha, oh wow.

Enjoy the AP courses while they last, kid. Once you go off to a real uni, you are going to get buttdevastated.

>> No.3555586

>>3555553
>mfw I'm in my 4rd year at uni

>> No.3555589

I don't like it. Especially when they disagree with me on like politics and stuff because that makes me seriously doubt my whole worldview.

>> No.3555593

>>3555415
how would you expect to get smarter if you never met anyone smarter than yourself?

>> No.3555599

>mfw these people claiming to be the smartest person they have ever met are probably serious

>> No.3555608

>>3555553

Lol seriously I thought I was a fucking savant super genius in highschool.

>> No.3555610

Why the fuck would that make you cry, you miserable faggot?

>> No.3555615

I try to surround myself with people like that.

I can learn so much from intelligent people.
I don't learn much from stupid people.

>> No.3555619

>>3555608

You were, Jim. And then you started smoking all that dope.

>> No.3555621

>>3555518

Hi! Are you me?

>> No.3555624

>>3555555

>> No.3555632
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3555632

>>3555518

I am more intelligent than you

>> No.3555651

>>3555632

I think that's a 'yes.'

>> No.3555671

>>3555553
This is what worries me. I've cruised through 10 years of compulsory school + 3 years of the equivalent of senior high (norwegianfag here btw) barely making an effort, yet always being top of my class and getting straight A's. I don't believe for a second that uni will be that fucking easy, so I'll probably be in for years of actually having to work hard to do reasonably well in classes.

At the same time I look forward to being surrounded by intelligent, competent people.

>> No.3555676

How do you tell that someone is more intelligent?

>> No.3555682

>>3555676
exactly

Op is just a pompous faggot

>> No.3555684

>>3555676

YOU don't need to worry about this.

>> No.3555689

>>3555676
in their ability to form logically sound arguments and to problem solve

>> No.3555691

>>3555684
10 bucks this guy attends a shitty university and just thinks he's more than he's worth.

>> No.3555698

>>3555676
You can tell by asking if they have a Physics, Math, or Chemical Engineering degree. If they say 'Yes', and you do not have one too... Then they are indeed more intelligent than you.

Sole exceptions arise only if you are in the process of gaining a Physics, Math, or Chemical Engineering degree.

>> No.3555702

>>3555684

I dont worry, I already know a lot of people more capable than me and I am ok with that, I am just wondering how you could one possibly tell

>> No.3555711

>>3555702

>how you could one possibly tell

i derp'd

>> No.3555715

>dat elitism

>> No.3555738

>>3555715
my bad, everyone is as intelligent as everyone else
it was wrong of me to think otherwise

>> No.3555747

I absolutely hate it and feel gutted, can ruin my week.

This is more a general trait I have though, naturally extremely envy prone over things I see as important. I feel the same around physically attractive people since I am only mediocre, and those who came from richer backgrounds.

>> No.3555754

I prefer talking with people more intelligent than me. I don't mind learning from them even if we're the same age. You guys are just incredibly insecure. Remember: There is always someone who is smarter, more skillful, more attractive, and stronger than you out there. There are some godly people out there, and you are probably not one of them (you are on 4chan, afterall). Don't worry about it though, be realistic with your goals, and take the time to experience and enjoy life.

>> No.3555762

>>3555754
>>3555754
> There are some godly people out there, and you are probably not one of them

This sums up why I consider myself to be severely disturbed by now. The sheer envy and hate I can experience sometimes is stronger than anything else I have experienced, positive or negative, by far.

>> No.3555779

Fascinated, but slightly jealous, of course, I try to learn as much as I can from them and keep in touch often.

>> No.3555780

I hate to boast, but I have yet to meet such a person. (About to start the final year of my masters, going to do a PhD after that.)

>> No.3555783

>>3555762

I agree.

This one time when i was a young lad my heart was broken by a more resourceful male. Needless to say, my ambition had an outbreak and I am now exceeding his wealth tenfold. I have yet to slow down on my journey and I'd like to see anyone try and surpass me.

Although, it hurts when I see multi-billionaires like Bill Gates, Warren, and that Fagbook owner Markcockberg. I'm so jelly I'll never be as powerful as them (or maybe I will be, I'm trying).

>> No.3555787

>>3555754
Not insecure, just gutted I am cut out of what they get to experience to the point I get pissed off my parents ever considered spreading their genes. I am not a person who will ever be grateful I exist, above average intelligence but not incredible, poor looks and no real skills. Parents are even worse, especially mother who is thick as pig shit, while father is unassertive and seems to go for a sort of pleaser friendliness over any social dominance. the decision to have me and my sister reflects shit tier ethics or over-emotiveness.

>> No.3555790

>>3555780

Being smart is so fun, it's like being given the cheat code to life. Were you always smart, and owning people's face without trying?

>> No.3555801

>>3555783
My response has become a detailed plan to commit suicide by hypoxia, together with letters sent to various family members and people similar to me on exactly why they should never breed, as public as possible so that other people would view the people I am citing negatively.

Not so much a decision as a reaction made in extreme disappointment and rage.

From:
>>3555787

>> No.3555808

>>3555790
>Were you always smart, and owning people's face without trying?
On intellectual topics, yes.
>Being smart is so fun, it's like being given the cheat code to life.
Indeed it is:
>High school's coming up twelve years old anon, you won't be top of the class with no studying there anymore!
>Looking forward to university, 18 years old anon, with plenty of people matching your skills and having to do some actual studying for a change?
>their face when nothing changed

>> No.3555815

>more intelligent

how would you judge that? better in things you care about? If you are highly specialized than it's possible to rarely meet someone like that,
but if you think rationally there are thousands of different kind of skills that all take a special kind of intelligence that just random people are better at than you are.
You could walk around a street and almost everyone would have some skill, some way they are smarter than you. If you would get sad every time it would be a pretty miserable existence.

>> No.3555817

I have high enough intelligence that it happens rarely, but a fair few psychological problems. Also ability wise am similar to most people since I am extremely lazy.

>> No.3555819
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3555819

>this thread

>> No.3555828

>>3555815
>>3555815
>>3555815
heh.

I think the overall gist of your post, especially this line:

> better in things you care about?

Just summed up why I am so apathetic and avoid getting passionate about anything. I think it explains why I avoid social or competitive hobbies, and why things like 4chan and timewasting (in which there can be no skill) hold my attention.

Cannot guarantee skill in everything I might like, so knocked out the other side of the equation.

>> No.3555835

So are you perturbed on a daily basis or do you make a deliberate attempt to not encounter those smarter than you?

>> No.3555839

>>3555783

Can I help you in any way with your endeavor?

>> No.3555847

>>3555835
see:
>>3555828

>> No.3555854

>>3555835
I'm:
>>3555801
>>3555787

Very perturbed.

>> No.3555856

>>3555839

Yes, my ballsack needs shining and your mothers mouth needs a stuffing.

>> No.3555857

oh wow, so you became less ignorant and you feel BAD? now you know how all those dumbass creationists feel. i thought you were above them?

>> No.3555858

>>3555754

>There is always someone who is smarter, more skillful, more attractive, and stronger than you out there. There are some godly people out there, and you are probably not one of them (you are on 4chan, afterall).

What about when it is all in the same person?

>meet this rich kid (his dad is worth like $50 million)
>really nice, social guy
>he is an inch taller than me (I am 6'4")
>he is built where I am a lanky mess
>he is handsome
>he has a hot girlfriend, who is also nice
>he has a better job than me
>he is at least as smart as me it seems based on his schooling

If he was making a character in a game people would call it cheating.

>> No.3555859

>>3555857
> implying the reason for the bad feeling is becoming less ignorant

read people's posts.

>> No.3555864

>>3555858
Instant suicidal trigger

>> No.3555873

>>3555854
>>3555801
While suicide would certainly help the environment what do you stand to gain? There certainly isn't much solid evidence for an afterlife. You're worried that your achievements in certain areas won't measure up to others, if everyone held this concern then the whole world would fail to function.

I find my job generally unfulfilling but, long term, I will have a great pension, my income is largely disposable and there are rare, wonderful moments where I really feel I've accomplished something that matters.

How about you do some shit that takes your interest and judge the magnitude of the achievement on how well you felt you did, rather than how you did compared to others?

>> No.3555875

I'll admit I'm pretty insecure about my intelligence. I always feel like I've got to push myself a bit more. My family regards me as a brainiac, and one of my TAs claimed I was one in the top 5 in my stats program. However, I feel like there is an ocean of stuff I don't know, and all I have is a bucketful of it.

>> No.3555876

>I'm 5 ft 2
>No girlfriend
>190 lbs
>10 dollars in bank
>cum on my shorts
>burnt food on stove
>girlfriend is tube8.com
>won the lottery of 325 million

u mad?

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3555882

this thread:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority

i've found that people who act like, and genuinely think, they are the smartest people alive tend to be the most idiotic and quick to form opinions on subjects they know jack shit about.

>> No.3555883

>>3555856

I'm sorry, I'll have to refer you to one of our other associates.

>> No.3555909

>>3555873
>>3555873
> While suicide would certainly help the environment what do you stand to gain?

Loss of all negative experiences, loss of the psychology which makes losing the positive experiences bad and preventing any value I might have from contributing to anybody else.

> There certainly isn't much solid evidence for an afterlife.

I know. I am perfectly happy with nothing, I have experienced being knocked out and was dead before I was born.

> if everyone held this concern then the whole world would fail to function.

Fuck all to do with me. I do not and never have wanted to achieve to better anything, I want to achieve to have distinction over other people.

The strategies mentioned in the rest of the post simply aren't good enough, I have had experiences of being somebody of distinction before to know it is infinitely better than what you described to the point it is rendered void.

>> No.3555917

>>3555909
>>3555909
Adding to this one:

> While suicide would certainly help the environment what do you stand to gain?

By showing up and harming my own parents, I might stop other people similar to me from being born, if I write out the reasoning well enough. Also simple anger, more at the situation than towards people I see as idiots regardless.

>> No.3555958

>>3555909
>Loss of all negative experiences, loss of the psychology which makes losing the positive experiences bad and preventing any value I might have from contributing to anybody else.

But you won't be able to enjoy it. Is your life (and potentially, what lies ahead) really so bad that it's worse than nothing at all?

>Fuck all to do with me. I do not and never have wanted to achieve to better anything, I want to achieve to have distinction over other people.

The highest honours of distinction (Nobel prizes, Knighthoods, ect.) are conferred on those who make things better for others.

>The strategies mentioned in the rest of the post simply aren't good enough, I have had experiences of being somebody of distinction before to know it is infinitely better than what you described to the point it is rendered void..

It's easy to get ahead in school if you're bright. If anything, it gimps you for the road ahead. I almost failed university because I never needed study skills before then. I think I could do far better with the skills I have now than I did at the time.

>> No.3555975

I don't care if someone is smarter.
Because wisdom is where it's at.
Intelligence doesn't mean shit if you're a bad human being.
Most of smart people are materialist assholes, and it's sad.
We should strive for more.

>> No.3555982

>>3555958
> But you won't be able to enjoy it.

Who cares? There will be no concept of a lack of enjoyment either.

> Is your life (and potentially, what lies ahead) really so bad that it's worse than nothing at all?

yes, because nothing isn't and logically cannot be bad.

> The highest honours of distinction (Nobel prizes, Knighthoods, ect.) are conferred on those who make things better for others.

Yeah, and there are many types of distinction which do not involve this. Whether or not it helps people is irrelevant to me.

> It's easy to get ahead in school if you're bright. If anything, it gimps you for the road ahead.

Exactly, and I miss this, and am aware how good it would be to have an equivalent of that throughout life - whether due to attractiveness, skills, profession, wealth, whatever.

I also resent having to associate with others now whereas this was never important in school.

>> No.3555995

>>3555975
>>3555975
> Intelligence doesn't mean shit if you're a bad human being.

A "good human being" is what people tell themselves they are when they're weak at anything else. You think people care if you're a good or bad human being, within reason?

>> No.3555998

>>3555982
>I also resent having to associate with others now whereas this was never important in school.

This alone will make you a failure in life. There are no fields in which you can excel without teamwork.

If you're going to kill yourself why not get some counseling first? It's not going to make a difference if you still decide to kill yourself.

>> No.3556016

>>3555995
If you care more about others' opinions than your ideals then you fail at being a good person in the first place.

>> No.3556023

Why would I be mad/jelly? World is full of retarded pricks, so it's a blessing to meet someone smart.

>> No.3556042

>>3555998
>>3555998
> This alone will make you a failure in life. There are no fields in which you can excel without teamwork.

Which is something I despise, since it then means whoever is best at the teamworking gains recognition over me and directly benefits over my lack of an appealing personality - despite the fact I was given no option not to get involved, knowing this is not an area I wish to compete in. Similarly with friendliness and social contacts which then transform into increased help for that person.

> If you're going to kill yourself why not get some counseling first? It's not going to make a difference if you still decide to kill yourself.

Why bother?

>> No.3556047

>>3556016
What is the value in being a good person? What is the value of having ideals? Other people's opinions affect you more.

>> No.3556052

>>3555982
Your reasoning is childish.
And one day you'll realize it and outgrow it.
And then you'll live a good life.
Stay mad, tho.

>> No.3556058

I'm talking about peers, not uh, people who aren't exactly my contemporaries (since I did meet a Nobel physics laureate once.)

I've met one truly smarter than me, but I don't really give that much of a damn, because he's one of the few people that I can really have fun talking to. He probably did benefit a bit from his double PhD parents, though. :P

I am not counting the national geo/spelling bee people I met (as in they won it, or got 2nd/3rd/4th place), because they admitted that they studied around 6-8 hours a day, even during the summer, and still didn't make it to USAMO.

I've met a few equals, though.

>> No.3556061

>>3556052
Explain where it is childish.

I am moderately hyperactive at the moment.

>> No.3556065

how many times is this shit going to be posted

>> No.3556066

>>3555876
325 million turkish?

lol, what's that, a cheeseburger?

>> No.3556071

>>3556042
>Which is something I despise, since it then means whoever is best at the teamworking gains recognition over me and directly benefits over my lack of an appealing personality - despite the fact I was given no option not to get involved, knowing this is not an area I wish to compete in.
Even if you consider yourself to be more intelligent than your team mates they can still potentially have a contribution to make, whether that is through different experience or a different balance of abilities. In true teamwork you still get credit for your work and you have the chance to be part of something you might not achieve on your own. I believe you haven't experienced teamwork on a great enough scale yet to appreciate this.


>Why bother?
You may find a way to derive enjoyment from things you are capable of doing. Why not bother?

>> No.3556087

>>3556065
>0

>> No.3556113

>>3555415
Never actually happened. Also, learn2socrates.

>> No.3556134

>>3556113
what did socrates say about this subject

>> No.3556135

>>3555691

No, I'm just being a dick. This is 4chan.

>> No.3556140

>>3556134

Everybody is an idiot, basically.

>> No.3556165

>>3556140
Well Socrates wasn't new to some hefty ideas. He once felt that we should kill all the mentally ill and/or disabled because "their genes will just get recycled into later generations" (not his exact words obviously). Of course we only recently learned that this is not how mental illnesses work, but god damn man.

>> No.3556171

>>3556047
You talk about value like a pot of gold.
What you get from it doesn't matter.
It really doesn't matter how opinions "affect me".
There's nothing appealing about furthering my own interests.

There are plenty of people who lived egocentric lives.
They lived happy and wealthy, sure, but they lived as animals.
And in the end it was all worth nothing. They lived like ants and dogs.
In a world where everything is worth nothing I'd rather pick the most precious nothing as my goal.
And the most precious nothing is outgrowing our primal wants to try and become men of value and honor.
Because we're the only species able to. It's the most worthy worthless attribute we can strive for.
And with a bit of luck it won't be worthless in the long run, who knows.

And I'm saying that but it's not my definitive argument. That's just a thought.
Maybe I'll end up with a definition of "being a good person" which involves being a selfish asshole. I don't care. What's important is to try. Because really, pleasuring me, when I'm just a retarded worthless animal, isn't a desirable pursuit. Trying to be a better person and in the meantime be helpful is logically more important than satisfying the trivial needs of a worthless individual on the depend of others. You know. It's like if you realized you were a monkey in the forest. You could live as a happy monkey eating bananas. Or you could decide to despise this simple kind of life and try to thrive for more, you could try to draw paintings on the wall to thrive to be more, because being a happy monkey simply isn't enough. You crave for civilization.

>> No.3556211

I haven't but for one good reason:
I'm pretty smart, not to the extreme, but where I live people are just...retard :/

>> No.3556214

I've only meet people who can remember more than me, not think better, so I don't know that feel.

>> No.3556233

>>3556171
I meant "strive" and not "thrive". Fuck.

>> No.3556281
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Well... I can do 5 digit mental calculations in seconds, I fluently speak 7 languages (English/Spanish/German/French/Italian/Japanese/Greek), I can tell you the history of any European country including their rulers and their year of birth and death, I can tell you the day of the week for any date in the past 2000 years and in the future, I can recite pi to 5000 decimals and I can memorize 1000 more decimals in less than 1 hour, I can read a 200 page book in a little more than 10 minutes, I can draw any picture at a scale of 2 to 1 just by glancing it for a few seconds (I'm usually of by a few millimeters in some places), and the list goes on....
>mfw everybody calls me a retard and they make fun of me

>> No.3556284

>>3556281
Because you're a retard if you think that makes you smart.

>> No.3556290

>>3556284
mfw you are just butthurt because he can do stuff that you can't

>> No.3556291

>>3556061
The whole distinction thing: That's a state of mind which will change, given time.
The whole parents thing: They don't matter in the long run. And they're probably the root of the distinction thing.
Life and people aren't fair: That's sad, but you can still be happy in spite of it, if being happy is what you want.
Basically, all your reasons that I read are short-sighted.

Imagine yourself as a "succeeding" man with a girl you love and a good job and fun hobbies.
If your reasons are still good enough in this scenario, then kill yourself. Only then.
Otherwise, man up and fight for it because it's just there waiting for you.
And when you will reach it you realize the mistake it would have been to give up early (like a faggot).

>> No.3556298

>yfw you meet someone more autistic than you

>> No.3556304
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3556304

>>3556281
>mfw that just makes you an obsolete computer

>> No.3556326

>>3556304
That's so retarded I can't even see straight any more.

>> No.3556335

>>3556281
So tell me the original name of the most important emancipated region of Spain in early middle ages

>> No.3556387

>>3556214
Agreed. I haven't met someone who is smarter than me, I have just met people who have large amounts of data about a certain subject matter memorized. They have not made their own opinions, they have not created their own major ideas, they just know how to memorize stuff they have an interest in. It's like knowing a lot about philosophy but not developing your own hypothesis/theories and not coming up with new "stuff." It's like knowing a programming language and just rewriting an old program in a different way doing the same thing.

Intelligence is being able to be logical but it is also about being able to work with complexity and create complexity. Intelligence is about creation. Making music, writing books, making programs, building space ships, that is what intelligence is about. Intelligence is about building a new computer program, or creating your own philosophical ideas that are not from some 100 year old dead due. Memorizing junk is not intelligence.

Alas, I don't appear as intelligent as I feel I am. I work with ideas in my head, but I cannot transpose them into English as well as I want. That is why some people don't understand me and don't view me as intelligent.

>> No.3556407

>>3556335
Al-Andalus

>> No.3556412

>>3556387

>That is why some people don't understand me and don't view me as intelligent.

>I am intelligent but for some reason people cant see it

haha, thats a new one

>> No.3556424

>>3556412
I don't understand what you are trying to say.

>> No.3556438

>>3556424

That you are not as intelligent as you think if you cant get people to notice it

>> No.3556446

>>3556387
An organism must be able to respond succesfully to its environment to survive.
Creativity; synthesis of incoming stumuli and cooperation between brain segments to collectively discern reality is a talent. Physical endowment is a talent. Sound perception, memory ability is a talent. Intelligence is a talent. Intelligence is everything that turns objective reality into a subjective reality and is unique for all of us. Intelligence is fundamentally more than creativity alone; it is subconscious intuition itself. You simply cannot ignore this.

>> No.3556451

>>3555415
>That feel when a total dick is smarter than you
I hate that feeling.

>> No.3556459

>>3556438
>Implying people thought Einstein was intelligent until he discovered relativity.

Everyone probably thought Einstein was autistic and weird, not smart.

>> No.3556507

>>3556446
Intelligence is one of the hardest things to pin down. You are right, it has a lot to do with intuition, without intuition you cannot deal with complex ideas as easily and you cannot generate new ideas. Intelligence does not require a certain personality either. Isaac Newton was a weirdo, some intelligent people are very illogical and rude, while others are quite and logical.

What I am saying is that people do not have to look intelligent to be intelligent. Look at Stephen Hawking. If he couldn't speak you would think that he wasn't smart and had nothing going for him.

>> No.3556508

>>3556438
not the same guy but i've got the opposite problem. people are always telling me im so smart but i dont feel smart, maybe they are retarded and im just average?

>> No.3556514

>>3556508
or youre smart and also a pussy

>> No.3556524

>>3556508
I have glasses and am not a total moron, apparently I'm a fucking genius. I'd definitely say I'm above average, but there are people around me that are much smarter in some ways.

>> No.3556529

>>3556508
I look around the world and instead of making myself better than everyone else by calling myself smart I pretend I am the normal one and everyone else is just very stupid.

>> No.3556536

>>3555882

Fuck you, I had that on my clipboard and when I went to copy a different link, I guess it didn't take, so I just sent an email to my boss whose body is nothing but a link to that wiki article

>> No.3556538

>>3556508
A good point to make is there's generally two classifications of intelligence:

Crystalized Intelligence - Basically "memory" intelligence. How much can you remember, how easily can you acquire memories, and how well can you get them out?

Fluid: General intelligence, focuses more on short-term memory and memory processing over the memories itself. Generally learning something new begins with Fluid intelligence determining how well they can grasp it and use the stimulations presented, while crystal intelligence determines how well they remember it.

A good example would be someone who was good at FPS games vs someone who does heavy reading. Generally reading is dominated by semantic processing and rote memory, while FPS games are dominated by processing. Someone can have both, like if they were reading technical documents and were expert, both in theory and practice of various machineries, but most people are better in one area than the other, usually falling along gender lines, females have better crystalized intelligence on average, while men have better fluid intelligence, not to say these are inherent factors, just what adults are raised to be useful in, generally.

>> No.3556539

>>3556387
meet:
>>3555882
you have what's called illusory superiority.

>> No.3556545

>>3556524
>>3556508
you two are likely smarter than you give yourselves credit. and i'd bet money that you are smarter than the people in this thread that claim to be smart, or are enraged when someone else is smarter than them.

>> No.3556547

ITT: no black people!

>> No.3556555

>>3556536
lol, sorry man, hope there's no negative impacts from it. it is pretty funny though.

>> No.3556558

Anyone else have wildly changing opinions of themselves?

I get a good score on a test, I feel like king shit, smartest guy on Earth, no one can stop me.

I get a question wrong on a homework assignment, I get so fucking depressed, I'm so stupid I should just eat a fucking gun, it's not worth it anymore and I know I'm going to fail out of college.

>> No.3556560

>>3556508
happens to me too. They even say I'm arrogant and that I think I'm too smart, even when I just plain deny my... 'smartness'.

Odd.

>> No.3556562
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>>3556545
>pretentious people can't be smart
This is what mildly intelligent (and butthurt) people believe.

>>3556560
>Odd.
You're arrogant.

>> No.3556563

>>3556558

Thats basically every university student ever

>> No.3556565

>>3556539
If I had that I would have a problem with other people being smarter than me. I would admit when someone is smarter than me and I would be happy to meet someone smarter than me, I just have not yet. It's disappointing.

>> No.3556566

>>3556558
well you probably have high expectations of yourself then. Happens a lot.

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3556572

Sorry, I don't know that feel.

>> No.3556577

>>3556545
First guy here, probably, but I think the problem is that "smart" is a very, very arbitrary term. We consider literary masterminds, philosophers and history buffs "smart" when it's all very different forms of "intelligence".

But the pretentious douchebags are probably pretty smart, too. Of course there'll be a few of them with hugely over-inflated egos, but you're kidding yourself if you think a lack of modesty is indicative of any less intelligence. It is annoying when complete assholes are "smarter" than you, though.

>> No.3556578

>>3556387

>Alas, I don't appear as intelligent as I feel I am.

Instant red flag. If you don't appear intelligent, guess what.

>> No.3556582

>>3556558
I used to, but then I matured.

>> No.3556595

>that feel when you meet a fully black person that is smarter than you
>that feel

>> No.3556609

>>3556578
learn2read previous posts.

Appearance is not everything.

>> No.3556615

>>3556595
I can honestly say this has not happened. I have not yet met a black person who is more intelligent than me in person. Or a hispanic person. Asians, sure, but in my experience Asians are incredible at math and science but cannot grasp the English language beyond a mechanical level. They have no concept of style.

I usually try to stay away from stereotypes, but goddamn I knew an Asian kid who literally slept through three years of honors/AP math and science classes and did fucking beautifully on every test. He was a fucking moron if you actually engaged him in conversation.

>> No.3556619

>>3556326

What's retarded about that? None of those things are intelligence, just rote memory and computation, i.e. things any computer could do far better. Hence, "obsolete computer."

>> No.3556621

>>3556578
You have to communicate for people to perceive your intelligence.
If he fails at communication, then this apparent contradiction doesn't mean shit.
And then you have to be judged by people who aren't better than you at recognizing what is intelligence and what is not. There is a part of randomness and conformity. If you go on christian boards, people quoting the Bible and using punctuation will be considered smart when elsewhere they would be complete retards, and inversely.

>> No.3556627

>>3556562
yep, i totally said that pretentious people can't be smart! good reading comprehension mr. trollface.

>> No.3556628

>>3556621
It doesn't matter how smart you are if you cannot communicate it.

>> No.3556648

>6'2
>200lbs
>IQ of 81
>2 inch penis
>Never had a girl look at me without them feeling sickened.
>No one likes me, my ignorant white trash are ashamed of me.
>People avoid looking at me, they only awknowledge my existance to show disgust.
>More or less homeless
I run into superior people on a daily basis.

>> No.3556658

I've only ever met people that are more intelligent than me in a fairly specific way.
Nobody that has all around greater intelligence than me.
>mfw I meet somebody that has more self-motivation than me
That's what gets me.

>> No.3556678

>>3556615

I'm sure there are a lot of black people who think you have "no concept of style" when they engage you in conversation (assuming that's ever happened), and probably for similar reasons you think the Asian kid doesn't. In a lot of ways, the relationship is analogous.

>> No.3556688

People tend to greatly overestimate their own intelligence, and underestimate the intelligence of others.

ITT: a demonstration

>> No.3556689

>>3556658
>meet someone who has more self-motivation than me
That's like 90% of people with me, the other 10% just fell into a comfortable life position.

Depression and ADHD suck, no matter your iq.

>> No.3556697

>>3556678
No concept of style in their writing, is what I'm talking about.

>> No.3556701

>guaranteedreplies.jpg

>> No.3556703

>>3556619
There is nothing obsolete about having a biological ability that likely puts him in the top 1% for certain tasks. Human evolution is constantly striving towards these ends. Even if he was an autistic savant and had no other cognitive abilities at all he would be valuable for having talented genes to pass down. I don't however think he is an autsistic savant; making him that much more attractive to the human race.
His skills probably translate well on an IQ test. On a creativity test he would likely come up with unique ideas too. Since there is value in diversity your claim of him being 'obsolete' is very pretentious.

>> No.3556710

>>3556648

>My name is EK and this is my story.

>> No.3556729

Sure are a lot of stupid teenagers browsing /sci/.

>> No.3556768

>>3556703
>There is nothing obsolete about having a biological ability that likely puts him in the top 1% for certain tasks.

Of course there is. Being in the top 1% of ability to lift heavy weights is impressive, but it's not actually all that useful since we figured out how to use mechanical advantage.

>Human evolution is constantly striving towards these ends.

No, it isn't.

>His skills probably translate well on an IQ test.

On certain parts of one, yes. That's because skill at computation and rapid memorization tend to correlate with general intelligence. However, they themselves are not intelligence, otherwise we'd call computers super-intelligent. And of course, in humans that correlation is obviously not 100%, as autistic savants clearly demonstrate.

>On a creativity test he would likely come up with unique ideas too.

You say, based on nothing.

>there is value in diversity

Oh, I don't dispute that.

>pretentious

You keep using that word...

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>>3556768
I am detecting a large amount of jelly, there.

>> No.3556781

>>3556689
>depression and ADHD are the excuses I've made for myself to rationalize thinking of myself as highly intelligent in spite of the bulk of evidence

ftfy

>> No.3556796

>>3556781
I'm in Mensa nigger

>> No.3556798

>>3556768
Personally I'd rather have a talent than not have said talent. Pitch those two against eachother in the arena of life when all other variables are even and the victor is obvious.

> pretentious
>You keep using that word...

Actually, I'm not that person. Ironic.

>> No.3556800

>>3556778

I'm jelly of photographic memory, sure. I'm also jelly of natural 20/20 vision and non-receding hairlines. I wouldn't consider any of those things proof of intelligence, though.

>> No.3556804

>>3556796
>I'm in Mensa

So you're also a faggot. Congrats.

>> No.3556806

>>3556798
>Personally I'd rather have a talent than not have said talent.

Me too, but that was never the question, was it?

>> No.3556811

So what the hell constitutes 'intelligence' anyway? How do you know if someone is 'more' intelligent than you?

You faggots have probably never even thought about it while making assumptions about others relative to yourselves.

>> No.3556814

I really never meet a person smarter than me personally.
Sure, there are a fuckton of people out there smarter than me, and most likely i have meet some of them already, but i didn't notice.

>> No.3556820

>>3556281
>Well... I can do 5 digit mental calculations in seconds
Elaborate.
>I can read a 200 page book in a little more than 10 minutes
That means one page in a tad more than 3 seconds.
Which means about one sentence in 85 milliseconds, or a word in about 8 milliseconds.
Somehow, I find that very hard to believe.

>> No.3556821

>>3556281

Oh yeah, who would the leader of France in 553AD?

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>>3556798
>Ironic.

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3556823

Fuck OP, why do you have to put me in this comparative attitude?, it makes me feel dumb as fuck for a week.

>> No.3556839

If you're so smart, why are you an athiest?
Told status: told

>> No.3556925

>>3556823
This, if you've been in any kind of science-related university, you have been surrounded by people more intelligent that you in one field or another.
If you go to see someone break-dancing, that person has more kinestesic intelligence than you.

If you start to think about it in a comparative way it's depressing as fuck

>> No.3556942

i just act physically tough and threatening around them, assuming they are weaker. but then they are smart so they can probably tell and i just look dumb.

fuck. it's NOT fair!

>> No.3556957

I don't care. I'm not so insecure that I feel like I have to prove something with my intelligence.

>> No.3556968

>>3556839
I'm an atheist because I'm smart and I don't eat bullshit on a plate without questioning the "facts"

>> No.3556987

it's pretty rare that i meet someone more intelligent, but when i do, i usually try to get them to leave or i avoid them. i like being the biggest fish in the pond.

>> No.3557006

>>3556459
which was perfectly reasonable, until he proved them wrong, which the faggot we are talking about hasn't done.

>> No.3557021

>>3556968
Yet not smart enough to detect the most obvious of trolls.
Good game, next!

>> No.3557023

Anybody who has any empathy for the OP is just in a tiny pond. When you go to a good university that's competitive to get into and attracts all the olympiad winners and best students from all over the world then you can't be bothered to think "baww he's more intelligent than me", because even if you're 99th percentile you'll still come across dozens of people who are more intelligent than you every day.

>> No.3557037

>>3556171
>look at me I'm so wise i write insightful poetry on 4 chon to prove that i don't need to be intelligent

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>>3555415
never happened

>> No.3557149

>>3557055
>Nig ger
>Intelligent
Pick one (but don't steal it)

>> No.3557175

>>3556407

That was the name of all of Iberia, you fucking nigger, not a region within Spain.

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>mfw I'm kicking the asses of NASA and most universities in optoelectronic horticulture