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Global scientific consensus agrees: global warming is happening and is accelerating because of man

The world is obviously too busy worrying about politics and money, as usual. By the time we get around to actually putting some effort in, it will be too late for anything other than radical changes in first world lifestyles.

ITT: Radical changes to stop global warming, or at least slow it down

Here is what I propose:
1. Make private transportation illegal in large cities. Public transportation and medical services exempt. Open freeways to bicycles.

2. Cap airline travel per person.
3. Adopt solar, wind, and algae as power sources

>> No.3517506

> Make private transportation illegal in large cities.
Good fucking luck. You need to provide something better than bicycles, champ.

>> No.3517519

>>3517506

Already being proposed in large downtown areas of California, such as Los Angeles and San Francisco.

>> No.3517521

Step one:
Lower the human population to half or less of current levels.

>> No.3517538

>>3517506
San Fransisco is already on this, the eventual plan is for large sections of the city to be inaccessible to cars. BART, buses and trollies (we still have those) will carry all the people to work and such

>> No.3517539

>>3517521
It's going to go into decline anyway shortly after 2050. Total fertility rate is declining worldwide due to modernization.

>> No.3517544

>>3517506

Fatass detected

>> No.3517547
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>>3517521
a few sprayer planes and some VX would do wonders for subsaharan Africa

>> No.3517553

>>3517501


>2011

>being stupid enough to think that the problem is cars


the problem is coal and natural gas fired powerplants you dumb shit.

>> No.3517568

>>3517553

private transportation is the leading consumer of all oil around the world

go shove a cactus up your rectum

>> No.3517579

>>3517547

Because subsaharan africa is where the population crisis is occurring

>> No.3517584

>>3517568
However, oil is not the only source of carbon emissions.

>> No.3517587

public transportation would have to be drastically expanded for this to work.

also, public transportation gets its energy from SOMEWHERE.

so long as the source is oil or coal plants there will be pollution.

If you've been to tehran the industrial air pollution is so noxious its downright poisonous in some places, people have to drive wearing face masks.

this is why nuclear power is such an important solution for us.

>> No.3517590

>>3517579
....
it is. It's contains some of the few parts of the world that aren't modernizing enough to lower fertility rates.

>> No.3517601

>>3517568


And natural gas is the leading source of CO2 emissions.

as a whole, the industry is by far the leading source of greenhouse gas, as it also spews boat loads of CH4 and H2O in the atmosphere.

both of those are about 10-20x worse than CO2 as greenhouse gasses, waayyyyyyyyyyy more persistant, and essentially impossible to remove.

>> No.3517603

>>3517587

I don't know if you have read anything above.

But this is already being implemented. Deal with it.

>> No.3517606

>>3517579
it's where the idiot problem is occurring. China is getting their shit together and as a nuclear nation it would difficult to mess with India (though instigating a war to mutually destroy them and Pakistan would work)

As such there's really only one broad area that's viable to wipe out

>> No.3517617

1. Using a bike still requires a large amount of work, thus creating a VAST demand for food, because, you know, people need for for energy
2.lolwut?
3.Solar- Technology no where near the level we need to become dependent on it, Wind- Useful for local energy needs, but in a city or even a town, its completely useless, Algae- Derp method because it takes CO2 in and once we harvest the bio fuel, the CO2 is released back into the atmosphere

And i hope you realize, 99.883% of the CO2 we humans have been putting into the atmosphere, has been here since, i dunno, the earth was made? You exhale CO2, maybe we should make breathing illegal?

>> No.3517636

>>3517617

>bike
>a lot of work

I ride my bike 10 miles to work 5 days a week. I don't eat any more than any regular person. You're just a fatass

>> No.3517647

>>3517617

Classic conservatism speaking. Obviously believes global warming is a hoax

>> No.3517659

>>3517617
0/10

>> No.3517672

>>3517617
>a vast demand for food
>average adult human burns 2500kcal a day
>biking requires no more than 500kcal of energy for HOURS of it

considering the amount of obese people in the world, there is no problem here.

>> No.3517681

>because it takes CO2 in and once we harvest the bio fuel, the CO2 is released back into the atmosphere
>99.883% of the CO2 we humans have been putting into the atmosphere, has been here since, i dunno, the earth was made

You just contradicted yourself

>> No.3517692

>>3517617

oh man! fatty is gonna fat. didn't see that coming

Maybe you haven't noticed, but you, as well as the rest of America, is either overweight or obese. Bikes run on fat. Stop being lazy.

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>>3517501
>Open freeways to bicycles.

>> No.3517740

>>3517731

fatty's gonna fat

>> No.3517760

>>3517501
Replace most vehicles with electric cars.

>> No.3517784

>>3517521
look up fema camps and the hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins that are on standby. population reduction may be in the works already.

>> No.3517793

>>3517760

Because electricity doesn't come from oil and natural gas

>> No.3517794

>Believing global warming is 100% fact when there is no 100% proof

>Implying that it isn't the THEORY of global warming

>Implying any of you are /sci/entists when you don't even apply basic scientific method to this shit

>Implying you have read this article

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/07/29/data-cooling-on-global-warming/

>Implying all of you who believe this shit without actually scrutinizing aren't pants-on-head-retarded.

INB4 HURR DURR 0/10 I RESPONDED.

>> No.3517795

>>3517793
It doesn't NEED to, no. Deal with it.

>> No.3517802

LOL ICE CAPS

>> No.3517804
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>>3517740
Bicycles on freeways - pedalling at 70mph, you fucking bell end?

>> No.3517810

>>3517804
Nah, you just get to work in three time the commute. Not like that's a problem right?

(I'm joking)

>> No.3517815

>>3517568

Cars are about 4% of human C02 emissions

>> No.3517814

>>3517794
did you even bother reading the article?

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>>3517794
>fox news

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>> No.3517832

Eugenics and population control

I dont give a fuck about global warming. We will run out of fossil fuels before anything happens

>> No.3517850

>>3517817

HURR DURR SO BIASED

>Implying that CNN and your other bullshit news networks isn't just as biased towards the left as Fox news is biased towards the right.

Jesus fucking christ.

>> No.3517853

>>3517850

.............
0/10.

>> No.3517857

>>3517850
no one implied that, actually

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>>3517538

>mfw the first person to seriously suggest this was Jello Biafra
>mfw 30 years later San Fransisco is finally regretting not electing a punk music icon for mayor

>> No.3517867

>>3517857

>No one implied that

See>>3517817

">fox news"

Basically, anyone who is flipping out over global warming when it is just a theory (A theory promoted by people who have large amounts of cash/money to gain if it is in fact, a fact) is not a scientist. Lern2scientific method.

>> No.3517875

>Global scientific consensus agrees: global warming is happening and is accelerating because of man

Bullshit, 9/10 REAL scientists dismissed it.

>it will be too late for anything other than radical changes in first world lifestyles.

lol'd, not one difference between PEER-REVIEWED climate charts. Every chart show a usual variation of temperature between seasons and solar minimums and maximums

>> No.3517898

>>3517501
>ITT: Radical changes to stop global warming, or at least slow it down

How about a practical one?
Molten salt thorium reactors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor

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>>3517867
Said post didn't imply that the other news channels WEREN'T biased.

It implied that fox WAS biased.

However, thanks for implying that you concede the point that fox is, indeed, biased, and that we should disregard your evidence.

Also implying that you suck donkey dicks.

>> No.3517912

>>3517903

>Implying that based on your logic, you should believe anything that comes out of cnn's or MSNBC's mouth

>Implying you don't like the penises inside and around your anus and mouth.

>> No.3517918

Oh look, it's the climate troll again.

>> No.3517919

>>3517912
Implying that you sucked your mom's dick and you liked it.

>> No.3517987

>>3517919

HURR DURR PERSONAL INSULTS WITHOUT ANY FORM OF BACKING UP THEIR REASONING

fuck you

>> No.3518836

>>3517898

To replace all natural gas and oil producing electricity, we would need something like 5,000 full-size nuclear power plants. It doesn't matter if they run on U235 or thorium, you would need so many plants that it becomes impractical. It is not a realistic solution. Nuclear is only a supplemental energy source, like wind and solar, and will always be a secondary source because it doens't produce huge amounts of power like natural gas and oil does.

>> No.3518838

Real problem that can actually cause damage? Develop real technological solution to engineer our biosphere.

>> No.3518858

Most environmental problems are a combination of overpopulation and consumerism.

>> No.3518867

>>3517501
>Make private transportation illegal in large cities.
This is utterly retarded completely unfeasible. Not every city has the public transportation infrastructure of say New York or large European cities and even if they did its not sufficient to completely replace cars.
A much better idea would be to drastically increase mileage standards to around 50mpg and increase investment into plug in electrics and diesel-electric vehicles.

>> No.3518876

>>3517617
>Algae- Derp method because it takes CO2 in and once we harvest the bio fuel, the CO2 is released back into the atmosphere
That's not a problem, though. There would be no net gain of CO2 in the atmosphere.

>> No.3518878

>>3517794
>Fox
>0/10

>> No.3518882

>>3517867
>Just a theory
>Lern2scientific method

Just... Just leave. You're embarrassing yourself and everyone around you.

>> No.3518885

>>3517501
<2% of greenhouse gas emissions come from private vehicles

>> No.3518928

>>3518876
net loss, assuming we still need to produce plastics.

>> No.3518931

>>3518867
Public transport is way more energy efficient. With emptier roads it will be much faster reliable and has more users = bigger budget.

I mean seriously if European towns/cities have their public transport sorted out very well (unless they are so small that you can cross them by walk in 15 minutes if you are not 250kg fat reservoir) then it shouldn't be a major problem anyway.

Only exception that I know of with truly shitty transport is London. So fucking rubbish especially the underground system.

>> No.3518942

Banning commercial beef production would be more effective than banning private transportation in cities.

>> No.3518963
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Population cuntroll: Decrease human population to pre-industrial levels.

Through a combination of abstenence, abortion, and contraception.

>> No.3518968

>>3518942
By banning beef you might insult some social or religious groups. By restricting (not banning completely) private cars you don't insult anyone. Especially if it will have impact on the fluidity of urban transportation (so that you don't wait 2 hours in a traffic jam).

>> No.3518974

>>3518963
How? - Numbers will be appreciated as well are you going to enforce 1 child policies like in China?