/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.3511617]

/sci/ Biofag here - I'm getting a total boner over space/space exploration etc.. atm. Anywaay on to my point - just been doing reading about water evidence on water in the past, the evidence to me seems overwhelming, is it pretty much accepted that mars did once have water? Or are there still people who disregard the idea if so what evidence is there to say there wasn't?

hungover and tired sorry for any typos/spelling mistakes.

[Anonymous No.3511623]

>>3511617
ffs water presence on mars

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3511626]

There are continent-sized regions that are 60% water ice by mass.

[fizx !d75etXAowg No.3511629]

>>3511617
I haver never heard of a single individual so much as doubt the past existence of liquid water on Mars. It would be impossible given its geological features, both macro and micro.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3511633]

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2009/24sep_martianice/

http://www.space.com/5686-water-ice-mars-confirmed.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars#Hydrology

[Anonymous No.3511652]

We've known about it for years. Its just a plea for more funding from NASA.

[Anonymous No.3511659]

>>3511617
WHere have you been the last few days?

Mars has running water on it RIGHT NOW.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14408928

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.3511667]

Hey NASA, you know where there's lots of liquid water? Europa. Also, sources of hydrothermal energy. Let's look there instead, okay?

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3511672]

>>3511667
Mars > Europa

[Anonymous No.3511675]

>>3511667
but it's *hard* to get to Europa.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.3511686]

>>3511672

For sending people to, sure. But if you actually want to discover life, Europa beats Mars.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3511698]

>>3511686
I can't see a thing under Europa's ice.
It has ice on it with cracks in the ice. Well, if there's cracks in the ice it must be moving on an ocean. If it's an ocean under ice, it must be full of water. If it's water under the ice it might be a really big ocean. If there are hydrothermal vents there might be a good temperature and mineral content. If there's a good temperature there might be lift. If there can be life, there might even be, fish.

Observation: Ice
Conclusion: Fish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sZb_IjTmyU&feature=channel_video_title

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3511701]

>>3511698
lift = life. Derp

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.3511702]

>>3511698

Tidal flexing is what accounts for the inference of hydrothermal activity. Unless Europa's core is made from some exotic mineral not subject to gravitational stresses, Europa is geologically active, and the only place for the energy to go is into the water.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3511711]

>>3511702
I'm just messing with ya.

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.3511732]

>>3511711

Don't mess with my dreams of sending a probe to Europa. I will crush your balls.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3511746]

>>3511732
Don't mess with my Mars base funding; I'll get Phobos to crush your balls.

[Anonymous No.3511750]

>>3511732
>send a probe to Europa
>full of hamsters

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.3511756]

>>3511750

It must be done.

[Anonymous No.3511760]

>>3511750
noo they will de ;-;

[Anonymous No.3511764]

"All these worlds are yours *except Europa. Attempt no landings there. "

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.3511767]

>>3511760

Or return in forms more powerful than we can possibly imagine

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.3511770]

>>3511764

[Anonymous No.3511773]

>>3511750
>>3511756
>gengineered half-plant hamsters
>break up the soil with teeth
>dig tunnels which release volatiles
>produce oxygen
I think you guys just solved all our terraforming problems.

[Anonymous No.3511800]

>>3511756
This is what your Hampture experiments were working towards.
Truly objectivist hamsters shall thrive not in the depths of the Atlantic, but the oceans of Europa! Fully removed from the parasitic influence of Earth based rodents!

Or just for the sake of sending hamsters to space, either or.

[Anonymous No.3511801]

>>3511773
How can they perform photosynthesis if they're underground?

[Mad Scientist !!Q11PG81nz2n No.3511803]

>>3511800

>Or just for the sake of sending hamsters to space

This one. Best reason.

[Anonymous No.3511810]

have you seen the video of the cats and chickens floating around in zero gravity?

I could play with that for eons and eons

[Anonymous No.3511816]

>>3511801
Chemosynthesis or thermosynthesis?

[Anonymous No.3511818]

>>3511810

Hahaha, shit. Good stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9XtK6R1QAk