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I'm going to attend community college in the fall and I'm in the process of deciding which classes I should take could you guys help me out?

I enjoy computers and want to learn programing but I can't decide between computer science and information technology.

Also what degree do you think I should try and get BS or BA?

>> No.3499141

BS in CS is the best option for you.

>> No.3499146

What should I expect from a CS degree and what type of job will I be looking at once I graduate?

>> No.3499147

Oh, and CS is pretty math and programming intensive. So my suggestion is to start learning how to program now, and refresh any math skills (mainly algebra and trig).

>> No.3499153

>>3499146
Basically any IT field or software position.

>> No.3499167

go for IT: because Cisco is BOOMING right now.

I just got my A++ certification, and I want to pursue a career as a systems engineer or what I call a "computer plumber" where I come to your house and fix your fucked computer

sorta like geek squad

>> No.3499168

I kind of fucked around in high school and I'm a disorganized person which I'm working on. I didn't do so hot on my math placement tests so I'm going probably going to take a Math developmental class. Math does come easily to me as do most things involving logic and reasoning. But I think it's good that I take the time to strengthen my math since the CS wants me to take Calculus with Analytic Geometry I I did pass a pre-calc class but I slid by and getting a better grasp on the concepts wouldn't hurt.

Here the cs class thingys,

Two Years Credits
1st Semester
CSC 130 Scientific Programming 3
ENG 111 College Composition I 3
MTH 173 Calculus with Analytic Geometry I 5
2SDV 100 College Success Skills 1
1___ Social Science Elective 3
Total 15
2nd Semester
1___ Social Science Elective 3
4MTH 174 Calculus with Analytic Geometry II 5
3ENG 112 College Composition II 3
*CSC 185 Programming Tools 1
CSC 201 Computer Science I 4
Total 16
3rd Semester
CSC 202 Computer Science II 4
6PED 116 Lifetime Fitness & Wellness 1
5___ Natural Science/Lab Elective 4
CSC 110 Intro to Communication 3
1___ Social Science Elective 3
Total 15
4th Semester
7___ Humanities/Fine Arts Elective 3
7___ Humanities/Fine Arts Elective 3
6PED/RPK Elective 1
5___ Natural Science/Lab Elective 4
CSC 205 Computer Organization 3
Total 14
Total credits for the Computer Science A.S. in COMPUTER SCIENCE=60

>> No.3499176

This is the information tech.

Two Years Credits
1st Semester
ENG 111 College Composition I 3
ITE 115 Intro to Computer Applications & Concepts 3
ITN 100 Introduction to Telecommunications 3
MTH 163 Precalculus I or higher-level math course 3
2SDV 100 College Success Skills 1
1HIS Elective 3
Total 16
2nd Semester
6___ Social Science Elective 3
4MTH 271 Applied Calculus I 3
5PED 116 Lifetime Fitness & Wellness 1
ITP 100 Software Design 3
ITE 170 Multimedia Software 3
3ENG 112 College Composition II 3
Total 16
3rd Semester
7ITP 120 JAVA Programming I or ITP 132 C++ Programming I 4
8___ Humanities/Fine Arts Elective 3
9___ Natural Science/Lab Elective 4
CST 110 Introduction to Communication 3
5PED/RPK Elective 1
Total 15
4th Semester
8___ Humanities/Fine Arts Elective 3
9___ Natural Science/Lab Elective 4
6___ Social Science Elective 3
ITD 256 Advanced Database Management 3
ITE 221 PC Hardware and OS Architecture 3
Total 16
Total credits for the Information Technology A.S in INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY=63

>> No.3499198
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3499198

>CS is pretty math and programming intensive

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAa!

oh wait, you were being serious?!

AAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, No.

>> No.3499202

Focusing on IT pretty much limits you to just IT. If you get a degree in CS, you can easily become a network or system administrator, on top of the software opportunities.

>> No.3499209

>>3499198
If you're not going to contribute anything and just be a dumbass, do it in another thread.

>> No.3499215

>>3499198

That picture describes me kind of lol.
In all seriousness I want to learn how to develop applications.

I heard that CS teaches you how programming works on a basic level which enables you to pick up new languages easily. Will with the programming you learn in the IT classes you get limited by what you've been taught is this true?

>> No.3499213

>>3499176
>>3499168
Looks like you just need to do one more course to do them both your first semester. Take the courses and decide then....

>> No.3499231

>>3499215
Teach yourself and make a portfolio of your programming work. You're not going to learn anything you're looking for in college....

>> No.3499240

>>3499213
Thank you for pointing that out. Thanks to everyone for there help so far.
>>3499231
What am I going to be learning?

>> No.3499242

The only difference between CS and IT at my university is that CS delves deeply into mathematics. We took the same first year courses, then as a CS student, I branched off into theoretical stuff quite quickly.
If you're not comfortable with:
>calculus
>linear algebra
>discrete mathematics
>real analysis
>number theory
>computability and complexity
stay away from CS.

>> No.3499246

>>3499215
There's probably going to be an introductory programming course first semester. After that, you'll be expected to know programming basics for a majority of CS courses. In some courses, there may be a programming language you're forced to use, and others will allow to use what works for you.

The best way to learn how to develop applications is to keep doing so. CS can teach you some neat stuff, but very rarely applies in the real world.

>> No.3499274

>>3499246
What purpose does the cs class serve? Same goes for the it.

>> No.3499299

>>3499274
Depends on the course. The most practical courses are probably introduction to algorithms (from stacks to graphs) and software engineering. After that, you swing into the theoretical side of CS, which only benefits you if you get into research. There's also more dedicated courses, such as parallel programming or AI, which may benefit you depending on what you plan to do. Basically, there's practical courses in CS, but there's a lot of theoretical courses that you could care less about for actual application.

>> No.3499313

>>3499274
IT courses I'm not too sure about. You'd probably focus more on specific technologies or software, such as ActiveDirectory, SQL Server, etc. Honestly, most of this stuff can easily be learned on the job or on your own.

>> No.3499379

>>3499313

What classes should I take then?

>> No.3499436

>>3499379
I'd probably focus more on the CS requirements, and then maybe take some IT electives here and there.

>> No.3499460

>deeply into mathematics
???
>calculus
lol no
>linear algebra
nope
>discrete mathematics
how do i shot D'Morgan's law
>real analysis
just more calculus
>number theory
RSA and the like =/= number theory