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3456299 No.3456299 [Reply] [Original]

You know its true..

>> No.3456303

Correction: Newton was an occult, not a Christ.

>> No.3456312

pascal

>> No.3456318
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3456318

>born in germany
>jewish

>> No.3456319

penis

>> No.3456321

""It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly."

- Albert Einstein

You lose, OP.

>> No.3456328

>>3456303
Solomon's temple is out there!

>> No.3456345

bump

>> No.3456356

>>3456345
>pathetic

>> No.3456359

>Newton was a Christ
All the more reason to worship him.

>> No.3456413

bump111

>> No.3456425

It's kinda hard not to be a Christian when you're living in Europe during that time period.
They'd burn you at the stake for witchcraft if you didn't attend church every sunday

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3456440

either Newton was a Christian or I've been getting the wrong idea of who Jesus was...

>> No.3456444

newton was a christ?

>> No.3456472

the fact is there hasnt been a single important atheist scientist in all of human history despite the fact that atheism started before even christianity and was very popular at many points in time throughout history

>> No.3456484

>>3456472
Richard Feynman
But that is only 1 of many important atheist scientists

>> No.3456490

>>3456484
most people dont know or give a shit about feynman, he didnt do anything spectacular. atheists just bring him up because hes an atheist

>> No.3456497

>>3456444
he invented calculus, so yes

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3456498

Who really gives a shit if they held a religion or not? Does it make you feel better if they were religious so you can say, "hey look Atheists! We aren't all stupid as fuck!"

>> No.3456501

>>3456472
Einstein was an atheist.

>> No.3456507

>>3456497
Just like he _invented_ gravity. Ammirite?

>> No.3456509

>>3456490
He essentially revolutionized quantum mechanics, giving the best tested and most accurate description of how particles interact ( which is essentially how the universe works)

His popularity among people is irrelevant to how great of a scientist he was.

>> No.3456514

>>3456497
>Newton invented calculus
>implying he didn't steal it from Leibniz and then travel back in time to write it in his diary and pretend he did it first

>> No.3456516

Einstein was a self-professed deist you twit, and Newton had such an inflated ego that the idea of death scared the shit out of him.

Sage for retarded non-science bullshit.

>> No.3456519

>>3456472
>atheism
>very popular

You mean the default state of being? Yeah you could say that its "popular". You were once one too until somebody whispered nonsense into your ear and you trusted them.

Which is sort've why the church went around lopping off heads of non-believers, so we dont actually know who was or was not an atheist, as most rational people are not suicidal and would not wish to have incurred the wrath of the barbaric religions they were oppressed by.

>> No.3456524

>>3456514
I bet he uses the same time machine Obama used to fuck up our economy.

Godamn I am fucking sick of time travellers messing with shit.

>> No.3456525

Newton's model of gravity was completely wrong though

>> No.3456521

>>3456516
""It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly."

- Albert Einstein

>> No.3456539

>>3456525
>implying that detracts from his noteworthy work

Come on now. Do you think that the general theory of relativity would or could have happened without Newton's work?

>> No.3456545

Hurr durr, look at me I'm an atheist!! I'm so cool and edgy lul!!

>> No.3456558

Wow! A rulebreaking post! And he doesn't know what "its" means!

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3456564

God damn, /sci/ is shit today. Newton was a Christian. Einstein was deist/agnostic. Who cares?

Go back to /b/.

>> No.3456568 [DELETED] 

>>3456545

I don't understand why you typecase atheists as teenagers trying to be edgy. It isn't edgy, hasn't been for some time. And I'm 30, not a teenager. Most of the atheists on this board, I'd wager, are in that age range.

It's a valid worldview consonant with the available evidence. Can't you just let us have that without trying to smear it with shit at every opportunity?

>> No.3456569

>>3456545

I don't understand why you typecast atheists as teenagers trying to be edgy. It isn't edgy, hasn't been for some time. And I'm 30, not a teenager. Most of the atheists on this board, I'd wager, are in that age range.

It's a valid worldview consonant with the available evidence. Can't you just let us have that without trying to smear it with shit at every opportunity?

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3456575

>>Einstein was deist/agnostic.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/12/peopleinscience.religion

"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

>> No.3456602

>>3456575
>implying that does anything besides disprove the claim that Einstein was a theist
Einstein held a deistic worldview. Learn the difference.

>> No.3456619

>>3456602

>>Einstein held a deistic worldview. Learn the difference.

No, he didn't. "No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

>No interpretation
>No matter how subtle

>> No.3456630
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>>3456619
"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. That deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God."

Deism

>mfw this argument is retarded

>> No.3456643

>>3456630

He lived in an era when you had to pretend to be religious. In public statements he said stuff like that, but in private letters he was openly atheistic.

I agree this argument's retarded. You're seeing what you want to see and ignoring the context.

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>>3456643
>herp derp Einstein was pretending to be a deist. I know what thoughts were really going through his mind, even though every piece of evidence is contrary to this belief.

Fuck off.

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>>3456659
>herp derp Einstein was really a deist. I know what thoughts were really going through his mind, even though he said many many times in private that he wasn't one.

Cool story, retard.

>> No.3456697

Wait, there are really people who believe there has NEVER been any social pressure to pretend to be religious?

How do they take themselves seriously?

>> No.3456718

>>3456697
Of course there has been religious pressure. But that does not mean everyone who professes religious belief is lying.

>> No.3456731

>>3456718

So the question is, was Einstein the sort of person who would speak in religious platitudes in a time of war in order not to ruffle any feathers?

I think that sounds a great deal like him. He said many times in private that even subtle conceptions of god were myths and products of human weakness, but in public statements he went out of his way to employ religious language.

>> No.3456754

Jew, Christian, Deist -- it doesn't really matter and doesn't validate any of them.

>> No.3456772

>>3456682
>implying you aren't a faggot.

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>>3456731
I agree he used religious rhetoric to get his points across. I would never dispute that. When talking about the developing field of quantum mechanics, he said, "God does not play dice." He clearly meant it metaphorically. And yes, he did bash organized religion and theology quite often. But the point is that deism and theism are quite different from one another, and I've never seen evidence of him bashing deism.

You quote him as saying, "No interpretation no matter how subtle..." In context, it's quite clear that this quote is referring to the Bible, and thus Christian theology. He was talking about interpretations of the Bible, not the interpretations of god.

It should be noted that I'm not a deist myself. I'm not simply "seeing what I want to see". I have no preference as to what Einstein's religious beliefs were. All I'm concerned with are facts, and the facts point to a deistic worldview.

>> No.3456815

>>3456564
>doesn't sage