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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv9GtGl4Odk

Peru is one of the most rapidly growing Economies in the world today, many people contribute that to their child birthing policies of the late 90s.

India has tired and failed, but I think it would succeed with European and American intervention.

>> No.3439484

>Implying the problem is with people and not economics.

>> No.3439488

>>3439484
Sterilizations are only needed in developing countries, once a country is fairly developed these policies won't be needed.

>> No.3439491

>>3439488

Because popping several hundred per person on a large fraction of the population for sterilization propaganda, surgery, follow-up and logistics is easier than, say, educating them?

>> No.3439494

>>3439491
No... because as a country develops the number of children born per couple drops drastically. Once it's developed the people have fewer children and sterilization is no longer needed.
Look at any population statistics and you'll see undeveloped countries and developing countries have far more children per couple than any developed country.

>> No.3439495

>>3439491
It's hard to educate in most of these countries, it's just best we start sterilization sooner than later.

>> No.3439499

>implying a country's birthrate doesn't drop automatically with economic and industrial development

Sure is Nazi in here.

>> No.3439502

>>3439494
>>3439495

I don't get you people. You seriously think that mass sterilization can be achieved through manpower alone. If these people can't be educated, what the hell makes you think they'll go along with mass sterilization?

>> No.3439506

>>3439502
Incentives to sterilize their first Children at birth.

>> No.3439507

>>3439502
Education takes hours a day, for most of the days of a year, for several years.

Sterilization takes far less time.

>> No.3439511

>>3439506
>Incentives to sterilize after the birth of their fist Child.
fix'd

>> No.3439512

>>3439507
>Hurr durr educating brown and poor people is hard so we should just take them out of the gene pool.

>> No.3439522

You guys are forgetting that we are all still human beings, not test subjects for society, and infringing on a persons' right to reproduce is just wrong

>> No.3439525

nope.tiff

>> No.3439539

>>3439506

This is so flawed, I'm not sure where to begin.

What's to stop people from abusing the system by just having children like they already are, and claiming that "this" is their first son? In order to keep track of that, you'd need, say, a well run hospital system with an uncorrupted bureaucracy that can micro-manage at a local level, the many, many people in that developing country. Oh wait....

Following your train of logic, they can't be educated because their traditions are too strong. you really think that incentives are going to change their mind? They would have to be some good incentives, so good that you'd be adding to the already high cost of sterilization by providing these incentives.

If for whatever reason, a family can't get their child sterilized, they may go to disreputable persons and back-alley surgeons where their children may die of an infection or some shit.

And you still haven't demonstrated that this method somehow has the advantage over less extreme methods of society building. I think you just made a very obtuse observation about human development, and you now think you have the simple answer to the world's woes. In short, you are biased in favour of this argument. It's the only reason I can think of why you're still supporting this idea despite the high cost and low chance of actually succeeding.

>> No.3439541

>>3439522
Reproduction isn't a right, that's a regressive way of thing of reproduction.

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>>3439507

Yes. It does.

In a developed world.


Why, in the name of self emergent life, would a developing country teach children chemistry and academic shit, when tradespeople are needed most to build the country?

My head is nearly exploding. You think that sterilizing populations whole-sale and then just leaving them is going to make civil unrest, mutual hatreds and ethnic tensions go away? And it would take like twenty years for us to see the effects of this mass sterilization! So before this takes place, people are going to still be dying en masse.


And this isn't including the nationalist groups that will use this "Western treachery" to cause more civil wars.

How old are you????

>> No.3439591

>>3439541
not in a sense that it is something that should be provided or that a decision should be made for it to be allowed, but that denying it is infringing upon a persons' human rights

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3439635

>>3439541
>Reproduction isn't a right

It actually is.

>> No.3439655

>>3439559
>>3439539

So are you guys going to respond, or what? I'm getting tired of checking.