No More National Space Shuttle Missions.

[Anonymous No.3431144]

Well, /sci/, here it is. After all this time. The end of nationalized space missions has finally came.

Now, we must enter a future in which we embrace private corporations as our chaperon to the stars. C'mon, /sci/, don't wimp out. We can do this with new leaders, not the same old ones, right? Tomorrow is just beginning!

[Anonymous No.3431151]

private corporations here.
we have no interest into space unless you buy it.
you just stopped buying it.

[Anonymous No.3431158]

Go away.

We dont need to send a man in to space right now. Besides, our technology and people are far to primitive for space travel right now.

[Anonymous No.3431165]

>>3431151
I'd give a buck to be in space.

[Anonymous No.3431171]

>>3431165
you're gonna need a lot more than that.

[Anonymous No.3431180]

>>3431165
no one person can buy our services.
hell, we don't like selling anything to an individual. Make it a few hundred million individuals willing to kick in a buck each to watch somebody else into space and we'll work something out.

[Anonymous No.3431186]

>>3431171
Yeah. Well, maybe we'll need a mascot like McDonalds does it? Here's Space Ape! (ignore wonder woman.)

[Anonymous No.3431197]

>>3431158
troll harder.
Do you really think we can develop and improve space technology without actually exploring space itself? Logic isn't your stong point my friend.

[Anonymous No.3431205]

Humanity peaked in the 60's.

You know it to be true.

Humans conquering space was never guaranteed. In fact, it's probably as impractical as flying cars.

[Xlore !!oIaXoksOFZm No.3431208]

>Oil past its peak
>worried about space

Why don't you faggots worry about a new source of energy, or your world will collapse around you when there's no more oil.

Petroleum is used in almost every part of modern life. When it runs out your fantasy of living in space will go bye bye with it.

[Anonymous No.3431215]

>>3431205
as much as it pains me to admit it, this is probably true. Although we've advanced wonders in computer technolgy and medical science, that stuff pales in comparison to the fact that they landed a man on the moon multiple times over 30 years ago, with a computer no more powerful than a pocket calculator. What an achievement.

[Anonymous No.3431218]

>>3431197
We really do not have any pressing and urgent reasons for space exploration. Show me a world-ending comet that has a 100% chance its going to hit me, then I'll throw every cent I own at it.

[Anonymous No.3431219]

>>3431208
because we keep malthus in the back of our heads and hope for the best.

sure, we're probably doomed, but we've been doomed plenty of times before...

[Anonymous No.3431228]

>>3431218
Apophis you numbskull.

[Anonymous No.3431241]

picture related

private corp will take people to space for 250k buck.

maybe this retard looking space bird will be useful

[Xlore !!oIaXoksOFZm No.3431249]

>>3431228
Unless Apophis passes through the gravitational keyhole in 2029 it doesn't matter.

So no one will care until then. Because you know.. humans don't give a fuck. Just like i said about oil

[Anonymous No.3431251]

>>3431228
works cited: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis
"As of October 7, 2009, the odds of an April 13, 2036 impact are considered to be 1 in 250,000."

Those odds are not great enough to compel ANY major businessperson to fund space exploration.

[Anonymous No.3431255]

>>3431208
we should use nuclear energy instead, it's clean energy and last long time. why not we use super tiny nuke cell to run car and it will last for 30 years.

[Anonymous No.3431265]

>>3431241
Capitalism gets people into space for a relatively mere 250,000 dollars.

NASA got you into space never - not even if you asked politely.

This is obviously a development. /sci/ is afraid of change..

[Anonymous No.3431257]

>>3431218
i think the fact that the planet is already near carrying capacity, and that we may need to plan to expand elsewhere now, is a good enough reason by itself. otherwise, we could rest on our laurels until it's too late, and we don't have the means to move elsewhere.

Answering your asteroid point, throwing every cent at the last minute when an asteroid impact (granted it is one of the 10% that we know about) becomes imminent isn't a good idea, because research and development of space tech good enough to deflect an asteroid would take decades at the shortest. It's an argument of "do it now so it isn't worse later".

[Anonymous No.3431280]

>>3431215
It's a pointless achievement that does nothing.
Other sciences are far more important, at least for the fact that they greatly improve the feasibility of space exploration.

[Xlore !!oIaXoksOFZm No.3431284]

>>3431255
What do you think powers all the things to make nuclear energy? Oil.

It also takes an irrational amount of energy to make a nuclear reactor. You have to build it and put it through regulations just to get it working.
And that's just for a stationary power station.

[Anonymous No.3431286]

>>3431265
almost 1% of americans can probably afford that.

that's a fairly huge number of people, but chances are pretty good most of the people here won't ever afford it.

[Anonymous No.3431287]

>>3431265
exactly. if you pay 5 millions bucks to NASA to ride the space shuttle into space, then NASA will not take you into space. FUCK NASA.. capitalism is awesome!

[Anonymous No.3431288]

>>3431257
The problem with your argument there is that most of the people who have the money are of the "and not a single fuck was given that day" mentality, and will probably remain that way until the last minute. You can't change their minds without scaring the shit out of them.

[Anonymous No.3431291]

>>3431265
but this means the corporate monopolies can end up deciding who and who cannot get off this rock due to how much money they make, and not upon their aptitude, unlike NASA which does (or should i say "did")

And also, what happens when a recession comes around and the corporations go bakrupt? then say goodbye to space exploration

[Xlore !!oIaXoksOFZm No.3431294]

>>3431284
>What do you think powers all the things to make nuclear energy? Oil.

Before i get yelled at for this. I mean to create a nuclear power plant.

[Anonymous No.3431295]

>>3431251
1 out of 250,000 odds of Apophis hitting Earth / 125,000 dollars to enter space.

> See any correlations there?

[Anonymous No.3431302]

>>3431284
i agree, BAD IDEA, it's easy as fuck to build nuke bomb, terrorists and sadists will be gladly to build it.

[Anonymous No.3431303]

>>3431295
nope.jpg

captcha: glicen p-cymeme

[Anonymous No.3431311]

>>3431288
good point. either way, it's likely that the asteroid(s) that is/are on a collsion course with earth are amongst the other 90% that we haven't even logged yet, so i guess we're fucked either way.
money really IS the root of all evil, in a sense

[Anonymous No.3431317]

>>3431280
It didn't even happen.

[Anonymous No.3431326]

It's not like Apophis is an extinction level event, more or less just a "well fuck" scenatio.

[Anonymous No.3431330]

>>3431317
pretty sure it did tinfoilhat

your kind might find /x/ a bit more interesting.
Oh, and if you're a troll, fuck off back to b.

[Anonymous No.3431358]

>>3431326
Well, Elenin has Extinction Level Event written right in it.

[Anonymous No.3431404]

>>3431358

Fortunately it'll miss Earth by several tens of millions of kilometers.

[Anonymous No.3431408]

With Wayland Utani America can once again reach to the stars.

[Anonymous No.3431456]

>>3431408

>wayland utani

[Anonymous No.3431466]

There's gonna be so many conflicts due to only private corporations providing passage I to space

[Anonymous No.3431489]

>>3431456

Are you mad that the "y" key's tactile response is bad?

[Anonymous No.3431491]

What mining corporation would be suicidal enough to try to mine an asteroid? That would only bring the prices of rare metals DOWN, not UP. "the future of humanity" is more likely to send the board of directors into a fit of laughter than anything else.

For that reason alone, it's almost damned sure to never happen.

[Anonymous No.3431508]

>>3431491
true.

I work in mining, the corporations will mine for a few years, sit on the product until a certain price, and then dump their inventory on the market.

it's a fascinating cycle, but yeah- we're sitting on huge metal reserves of almost every kind, just waiting for the price to rise enough to mine it. No reason to go into space for most stuff.

[Anonymous No.3431511]

>>3431466
Don't worry. NASA's space program will start up again in 4 or 5 years.

[Anonymous No.3431526]

>>3431491
Not every corporation wants their prices to be high all the time.

[Anonymous No.3431535]

>>3431526
the ones that could afford to mine in space do.

[Anonymous No.3431534]

>>3431489

You misspelled both words. It's Weyland-Yutani

Seriously man, five fucking seconds on google.

You just don't want to be taken seriously.

[Anonymous No.3431540]

>>3431534

hey you know guy If I misspell the name of a fake company and it phonetically looks okay it's no big deal.

[Anonymous No.3431558]

People get myopic about space travel. We've flown ships by every single planet in the solar system. We've landed on Mars a couple times. We've sent ships beyond Pluto. These are massive accomplishments that make the moon landing look like chump change. The only catch is that there weren't any humans on these ships.

But so what? Humans do have certain specialized skills which would make them useful for collecting data, and in the long run it would be nice to be able to have the option of moving to another planet if we have to, but just sending humans for the sake of humans is sentimental nonsense. Unmanned space travel is making great breakthroughs in science, there's no point getting pissed off because people aren't playing golf on the moon.

[Anonymous No.3431565]

>>3431526

Not the ones that stay in business.

[Anonymous No.3431574]

>>3431466
Yeah, kind of like all the conflicts of airlines transporting people from one destination to another. Oh wait...

[Anonymous No.3431580]

>>3431558
If robots created humans, guess which ones would be outfitted and sent into space? Sure as heck not the robots!

[Anonymous No.3431584]

>>3431574

You mean like the TSA? Or price gouging? or slave wages for space workers? There are no laws in space. Have fun with that.

oh, did you have a point to make?

[Anonymous No.3431599]

For those of you who are making a big deal out of private industry being involved in the space program, I've got news for you: it's been involved since day one. Every spacecraft and every rocket that NASA purchases is built and at least partially designed by private industry. What's happening now is merely a change in procurement methods. A handful of companies will design, build, and fly spacecraft using funds that NASA gives them whenever they reach certain milestones. Typically what happens is that NASA will select certain contractors ahead of time, tell them how to design the vehicle, and give them money as they need it. This inevitably results in cost overruns. The difference now is that NASA sets a handful of standards (the craft has to be able to bring crew and cargo to and from the ISS, the vehicle has to be safe, etc.) and companies design and build spacecraft that meet these standards, getting money as they reach certain milestones.

The new method of doing business saves time and money, and as long as NASA is there to provide oversight, spacecraft designed and operated by private companies will be no less safe than spacecraft operated by the government. Quite frankly, this change in procurement is long overdue.

[Anonymous No.3431605]

>>3431584
You're talking to a libertarian. Your logic is unsound.

Also, TSA is government mandated. The rest are your opinions. Cry more.

[Anonymous No.3431620]

>>3431605

>libratarian

>logic

>ron paul /b/

>mfw

[Anonymous No.3431640]

>>3431620
Yeah, nice story, bro.

[Anonymous No.3431650]

>>3431620
nigger u went full retard with that post

[Anonymous No.3431656]

>>3431605

>blames everything on the government

>denies existence of corporate lobbying influence

>instead only cares if you can own a toy that goes bang at things so he can oneday fight the US Military with an ak-47.

Keep fighting the good fight.

[Anonymous No.3431760]

>>3431656
I'm not in any way for violent revolution. Don't put words in my mouth.

Corporations are a creation of the state. They can only exist as less-than-liable entities under the protection of the government monopoly.