/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.3423446]

Why is this the case, /sci/?

[Anonymous No.3423454]

because it's not.

[Anonymous No.3423458]

because building muscle takes work?
whereas not building muscle doesn't?
derp?

[Anonymous No.3423462]

[Anonymous No.3423465]

>>3423446
Because your standards are fucked up by shitty tv-shows and bad cinema. That's why.

[Anonymous No.3423467]

>>3423465
are you one of them retard people?

[Anonymous No.3423469]

>implying women who aren't active at all but never eat actually look good
>implying men don't look good without well defined muscles

[Anonymous No.3423471]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm

go live 200 years ago where fat men were atractive in spane

[Anonymous No.3423474]

because you are a faggot

[Anonymous No.3423476]

It's not.
A lot of women don't actually like muscular guys.
That's just a male fantasy that's probably got more to do with in the fact that muscular guys would be better at fighting other males.

[Anonymous No.3423477]

The man to the right has an ugly, distorted body. Anorexic syndrom

[Anonymous No.3423483]

>>3423446
the girl does not "look good", she is merely thin

to look good, she'd need at least a couple years of weightlifting... dance aerobics doesn't cut it

there are VERY FEW truly fit women in the real world

[Anonymous No.3423488]

ITT: skinny mananons and fat femanons deny that there are universal attractive features which we recognise because of our genes.

have you any fucking clue about the animal kingdom?

oh of course, birds of paradise like flashy manbirds BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY SEE IN TRASHY MAGAZINES.

you people are fucking pathetic. you call yourself scientists but live lives of denial and/or total stupid.

[Anonymous No.3423489]

>>3423446
>that Muscular guy.
Typical gay fantasy

[Anonymous No.3423493]

Men look for the things that make a woman unique. Women look for the things that make a man better.

No amount of work can really make you more like his ideal woman. And no amount of work can make you better than every man she meets.

It sucks from both sides. The best you can hope for is that you both value intimacy, which only comes from companionship and mutual trust, more than passion, which one tends to get in abundance only at the start of a relationship. People who will give up the former for the latter are not worth investing time and effort into, though they are well worth casual interest.

[Anonymous No.3423494]

>>3423488

Her hips make her look infertile.

I do not want.

[Anonymous No.3423500]

>>3423483
she looks great!? women needing noticeable muscles is a bunch of typical propaganda BS preying on female insecurity to make money. no they don't, they just need a lack of flab, and that's achieved by a healthy diet.
are you genuinely a straight male?

[Anonymous No.3423507]

>>3423494
holy shit, you are genuinely saying that there isn't a genetic component to attraction. i think i'm going to fucking die of laughter here.

[Anonymous No.3423511]

>>3423507

Theres a genetic component to everything, bro. But your idea of "universal attractiveness" is like watching a homeopathy comercial.....Its just fucking silly.

I am not attracted to bodies like that.

[Anonymous No.3423518]

>>3423493
women have it bad. men have it fine because women are less interested in pretty faces and more in social standing, which men can choose to improve.

[/co/mrade /sci/entist No.3423522]

You read a lot of comics too?

[Anonymous No.3423523]

>>3423511
like what? who and what are you talking about?
i'm not saying it's 100 genetic you douche, i'm saying it's not 0. nowhere near.

[Anonymous No.3423524]

More like
>have genes that make you look like you have good genes
>do nothing

[Anonymous No.3423539]

>>3423523

You are fucking stupid. Everything is 100% genetic because your actions and reactions to stimuli are guess what: Determined by your dna.

Please get the fuck out of /sci/, you lose, good day, sir.

[Anonymous No.3423541]

>>3423518

And men have it bad because they can't be secure unless they can outperform every rival suitor.

If a woman is a five or higher, she is somebodies eight just because. If a man is a five or higher, with hard work and perseverance he can be an eight. That's the difference.

[/co/mrade /sci/entist No.3423542]

>>3423539

2/10

You're not that good at this...

[Anonymous No.3423547]

>>3423542

Yeah that's what I thought.

[Anonymous No.3423549]

>men, what do you think of overly muscular guys?
AWWW, man. Strong guys get all da pussy
>women, what do you think of overly muscular guys?
EWWWWW. What the fuck is wrong with that guy? He looks all swollen and unhealthy and disgusting.

[Anonymous No.3423550]

>>3423524
>have genes that make you look like you have good genes

[Anonymous No.3423555]

>>3423539
>Everything is 100% genetic because your actions and reactions to stimuli are guess what: Determined by your dna.

Partly wrong. I think environmental pressure (stimulii) is the most important factor and that your reactions are based on your life experience and how you were raised. I think you overrestimate the influence of genes

[Anonymous No.3423563]

>>3423549
This is what happens when people mistakenly conflate height with muscles. Height = genetic superiority. Muscles = Tryhard compensating for genetic failings

[Anonymous No.3423564]

>>3423555

And I think you are not taking the time to examine what you're calling "you" as if dna is some kind of soul.....

That shit is for religion threads bro.

[Anonymous No.3423566]

>>3423483
Get out you fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.3423568]

>>3423539
DING

[Anonymous No.3423576]

>>3423568
look at me being clever xD so random epic win

[Anonymous No.3423578]

Someone might have already stated it, but I can't be arsed to read the thread, so:

Contrary to popular belief being muscular doesn't make you fit in the evolutionary sense.
Muscles are sinkholes of energy. Your body is always trying to not make more than it needs too.

But for girls all they need to do is not eat excessively. Which I admit can be hard because, again evolutionary, are bodies are trying to keep fat. But girls actually have a higher percent of body fat when corrected for average height. It's because it usually goes to the breasts and gluteofemoral area.

[Anonymous No.3423580]

To get a body like the girl on the left you actually have to work out.

[Anonymous No.3423582]

>>3423576
lol i kno rite that guy got owned

[Anonymous No.3423588]

>>3423576
Wow, umad

[/co/mrade /sci/entist No.3423589]

holy shit

it sure is same-fag in here

[Anonymous No.3423603]

>>3423564
DNA is a blueprint for our organism, sure.
But our brain is plastic. it adapts, evolves, transform during all your life. So... I think genes have not so much to do with personality more than being confronted to Reality over times , memories, etc.
I can't agree with you .

[/co/mrade /sci/entist No.3423606]

>>3423578

That's true, but in a given day, men (on average) burn more calories than their female counterpart.

That is because women store more calories than men. So, technically, women should have to work harder at it then men.

[Anonymous No.3423637]

Women don't really need to be thin to look good, they just need to stay the female shape - reasonably full hips and thighs, slim waist, not too much muscle definition. This eliminates "chubbies" and many weightlifters.

Men also don't need to do much, they just need to not have much excess fat, which is more of a female characteristic.

[Anonymous No.3423650]

>>3423606
>That is because women store more calories than men

>butthatswrongyoufuckingretard.jpg

[Anonymous No.3423662]

>>3423471
>>3423637

There was a scientific study conducted a year or two ago that doesn't seem to have penetrated the conventional wisdom, as is the case with most facts about human attractiveness...

But anyway, basically it was found that the body weight of an individual was judged to be more attractive in a directly inverse proportion with the availability of food in that region.
That is to say:
Olden times Europe, Modern day Africa = Chubsters are ideal
Modern day America = skinny is ideal

[Anonymous No.3423669]

>>3423662
Skinny men without muscle are not widely preferred over larger men that are lean.

[Anonymous No.3423683]

>>3423669

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to mention that study just applied to women.

Yeah, the V-taper or men is pretty much universally found to be attractive. The shoulder to waist ratio of 1.618 actually was found to be the optimal measurement of what is actually called "the Adonis index".

[Anonymous No.3423712]

>>3423603
Maybe YOUR brain is plastic you android nigger, but mines made of lipids and proteins.

[Anonymous No.3423733]

>>3423712
Trolling score : 3/10
Ignoramus Scale : 7/10

[Anonymous No.3423744]

>>3423712
> implying lipids and plastic aren't both hydrocarbons

[Anonymous No.3423747]

that candy-ass with the abs is not nearly as attractive as my 8" penis

[Anonymous No.3423757]

>>3423747
And yet if you're both put into a bar where you don't know anyone, with equal personalities, he will pick up more, hotter women on average.

[Anonymous No.3423765]

>>3423747
you've never been laid, have you?

[Anonymous No.3423772]

women
>have to look pretty and HOPE the guy she likes will approach her, if not tough shit
>not born hot? good luck trying to get anyone to notice you
>oh yeah, and you only have 30 years, after that your body goes to shit no matter how hot you are

men
>born as blank slates
>can improve their attractiveness via working out, learning to be confident and of course by making money or gaining power
>you want a girl? it's all about how much will power you're willing to put in. Even the ugliest man can find a way to score an attractive girlfriend
>men get more attractive with age, and it's not that uncommon for men as old as 60 to score hot 20-somethings.

[Anonymous No.3423781]

>>3423772
>born as blank slates

protip: nobody is

[Anonymous No.3423783]

Holy christ. You people think that a girl can get that thin body just by not eating a lot? Wow. Being thin like that also requires exercise. You don't sit on the couch all day and not eat anything and end up looking like that; it's about balance.

As for the guy, I'd only give him an 8/10. I don't like his facial features. I'd prefer someone taller, thinner and with a nicer nose.

[Anonymous No.3423786]

>>3423781

lol I find the notion of steven pinker being incarcerated incredulous!

[Anonymous No.3423788]

>>3423783
>You don't sit on the couch all day and not eat anything and end up looking like that

lots of people do

[Anonymous No.3423790]

>>3423783
>Being thing requires a good diet and exercise

Genius detected.

[Anonymous No.3423795]

>>3423783
i don't work out for shit and i'm skinny as fuck

you can't explain that

[Anonymous No.3423796]

>>3423783

>taller

but you have no idea how tall he actually is...
Are all women this retarded?

[Anonymous No.3423797]

>>3423772

Its a double-edged sword. Women born beautiful will have rich men through themselves over them. But.... those women also tend to be gold digging whores. Women who are born out of the spotlight can often have a deeper personality, but do not receive the gawking the "hot" women get.

In the same way that men can work out, women can stay fit, and ffs they can even get breast implants and wear a lot of make-up (if that is the kind of men they want to attract).

[Anonymous No.3423799]

>>3423783
>As for the guy, I'd only give him an 8/10. I don't like his facial features. I'd prefer someone taller, thinner and with a nicer nose.

Shut up, dumb whore. Not like you'll have a chance. You'll be raped (by me) some day anyway.

[Anonymous No.3423809]

>>3423783
A woman who is typically active (walks around at her office job cardio bunny once a week) can get that body by eating a reasonable calorie load, not even a special diet.

And you don't know how tall that guy is

[Anonymous No.3423833]

in this topic, losers who are too lazy to go to the gym try to convince themselves that having a body like in OP's photo isnt preferential to their own personal sack of fat

[Anonymous No.3423841]

>>3423833

[Anonymous No.3423848]

>>3423833
let me begin my five point rebuttal by saying fuck you and 0/10

[Anonymous No.3423851]

>>3423841

well, im not trolling... but i'm sure there will be a lot of people willing to troll themselves over what i said

[Anonymous No.3423867]

>>3423848
wtf, the guy is totally right. hahaha how shit your life must be, you fat lazy fuck.

[Anonymous No.3423878]

>>3423446
'Cause a human male is not supposed to look like that. It would take the same amount of work for the chick to get the same abs. And she should not.

[Anonymous No.3423880]

Nah bro/sci/ neither one is necessary
I prefer both messy stoner chicks and /fit/girls to the girl in OP's picture likewise I'm not the most buff guy in the world (i work out occasionally and I'm skinny as a rail) but I'm constantly told I'm attractive by both men and women
It's all about personal preference and the OP's image just represents whats very popular in the media
I've met hot chicks who have a fetish for fat guys and I've seen male models who like older or bigger girls.

[Anonymous No.3423884]

Citation needed.

Citation needed everywhere.

[Anonymous No.3423888]

>>3423799
I didn't think you liked men, but if you want to rape me still...

[Anonymous No.3423895]

I'm not gonna deny being a mushy fuck, but my gf has a body that good by lterally doing nothing but eating reasonably.

IT JUST ISNT FAIR

[Anonymous No.3423903]

>>3423867
Why are you protecting abs-man?

[Anonymous No.3423928]

its not hard to get fit. me and some guys from class started going to the gym every day after class. you only need to go for about an hour, just make sure you use every minute of that hour. plenty of people say "i spent 2 hours at the gym last night" and they spent most of that time sitting down and talking.

secondly, always push yourself. if its getting easier, it means its time to add more weight

thirdly, try to shake off the instant gratification youve been growing up with. it'll take a couple of weeks of hard work to see any improvement

i didnt use to have abs. now i do. my girlfriend kisses them. she's a pharmacist, and she's smarter than me. i dont care, but you do.

[Anonymous No.3423939]

So you're confirming the right side of that picture then?

[Anonymous No.3423947]

>>3423488
That doesn't make sense. If it were like that, women would be attracted to muscular legs, because that makes a man faster, and therefore, a more capable hunter, not muscular abs.

[Anonymous No.3423950]

>>3423939

that you have to work hard? absolutely! especially as you get older. not uncommon for teenage guys to have abs (even without other muscles) but someone who's gone through 4 years of boozing at uni, and still has a decent body, can be proud of themselves. i'm 28 btw

as for girls, i have no idea. my gf goes for a run most mornings, she doesnt really go the gym, but she has a body similar to OP's pic (on the left, haha. ok shes not *as* hot). we're both fairly lax with what we eat. not health crazy but no fried chicken etc either

[Anonymous No.3423974]

>>3423947
Not all hunting is exhaustion hunting, and defending from other tribes or savage beasts are all upper body activities.

There are guys who run and guys who are run from, the bigger the upper body the more you embody the latter

[Anonymous No.3424910]

>>3423947
>muscular abs
>symmetry
>sign of good health

Not that different.

[Anonymous No.3424929]

>>3423476
you obviously don't hang out with women often.

[Anonymous No.3424942]

Im working on an invention that would make it so that men dont have to do anything either, if it makes you feel any better.

[Anonymous No.3424945]

>>3424942
chloroform aerosol?

[Anonymous No.3424957]

>>3424945
No, it actually makes men stronger. Its crazy clever, but I cant give too much away or people will steal it.

[Anonymous No.3425121]

>>3423606
You're assuming that men and women consume the same number of calories there. Not always the case.

[Anonymous No.3425449]

didn't read all of the posts but just like to point out for humans culture is far more dominant than genetics

example: fat was hot in the 16 hundreds, ref: the 'porn' paintings of the time (just google for a renaissance venus)

if you want a more recent example just compare movies and tv shows for the past 30 years: you'll see the rise and fall of overly large breasts

so your whole argument is just over a very narrow (in time) definition of beauty
also for men power, money and social status > physical appearence pic related bernie ecclestone

[Anonymous No.3425462]

>>3424929
Explain how pretty boys like Bill Kaulitz are so popular with girls, then.

[Anonymous No.3425473]

Americans and their shitty DNA.
Every girl is naturally like that in Europe.

[Anonymous No.3425501]

Guys will fuck anyone who isn't hideous (any normal person)
Females will only fuck alpha males (the best of the best)
Because natural selection. The best game plan for a guy is to fuck like a wild jack rabbit. Because he can, and having a boat load of kids pretty much guarantees his genes are passes on. Where as females don't have that option. They are not able to reproduce as fast or easily as males, they have to make every child count. As such her best game plan is quality. Hence picking on the best males available.
In the wild its typical for the alpha male to be the only one allowed to mate, and he generally gets to fuck anyone he wants. If your second best you usually don't get jack shit.

[Anonymous No.3425508]

>>3423446
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[Anonymous No.3425680]

Dude, are you retarded?

Women have it much harder: They have a slower metabolism, less muscles (which burn calories) and have to work out and do sports so they can tone their muscles. Also women, on average, are more prone to bad skin. Its definitely not easier.

[Anonymous No.3425689]

>>3425462
He isn't? I've never heard girls talk about him.

[Anonymous No.3425696]

>>3425462
Because he's a celebrity, thus of high social status (which is often more attractive to women than looks alone).

>>3425689
Because he's in Germany.

[Anonymous No.3425732]

>>3425680

>Also women, on average, are more prone to bad skin.

wat? Nope.jpg

[Anonymous No.3425744]

PRO TIP: That man would be more attractive (to women) if his muscles were less defined.

PRO TIP 2: Women who just don't eat much but aren't fit are not attractive.

[Anonymous No.3425747]

>>3424929
>Bill Kaulitz

Who?

[Anonymous No.3425757]

>>3423483
>A couple of years of weightlifting

[Anonymous No.3425766]

>>3425757

OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!

[Anonymous No.3425768]

If you want a woman with muscles I've got bad news for you...

[Anonymous No.3425777]

>>3425757
steroid use accounts for the physique but why is she black?

[Anonymous No.3425781]

>>3423446
actually to maintain a figure like that most girls need to keep active. most girls with figures like that who dont exercise are in high school. once they leave high school and they're no longer getting PE lessons or chasing boys in the playground, they will put weight on unless they exercise.

and most girls dont care for that amount of muscles on a guy. they want the same as the guys, ie. not a fucking pig-whale

[Anonymous No.3425786]

>>3423446

[TERELSECKY !TEREL//Tgg No.3425791]

>>3425786

[Anonymous No.3425821]

>>3423880
this also goes along with the
"bigger is better" mentality in media
Big boobs, big muscles, hell even big packages in porn...all makes for a better picture and screen

[Anonymous No.3425852]

>>3423795
I can, I can guarantee that you're eating less than your required calorie intake to maintain mass. For males I believe it's generally held to be 2700 or something like that. I used to think link you, that I was eating fucktons of food, but when I started becoming /fit/ and making sure I was eating 3000 calories...that's when I learnt how little I was eating really.

[Anonymous No.3425886]

>I like short, anorexically thin, small breasted, dark haired girls...
>I'm incredibly thin, long and dark haired.

Well, this aint never gon werk.

[Anonymous No.3425892]

How many of you guys posting ITT have actually tried talking to a girl?

[Anonymous No.3425901]

>>3423446
>that feel when you're so physically attractive you could rape a woman and she would feel happy and satisfied for it
Feelsgoodman. Also it's all about value - add genetically superior traits with fruits of hard and smart work and you will get Master Race. Simples

[Anonymous No.3425924]

>>>/fit/
>>>/soc/
>>>/adv/
>>>/b/
>>>/g/
>>>/troll/

Post this shit anywhere else than /sci/.

[Anonymous No.3425925]

>>3425501
How do you know if you qualify as an Alpha male?

[Anonymous No.3425931]

>>3425892
I have but never because I hope to enter into a sexual relationship. There's things so much more fun than sex.

[Anonymous No.3425940]

>>3425925
/fa/ here - I am what you can define as an alpha male. I value love, courage and living life to the fullest. I do not posses the emotions of anger, fear and doubt - these are the emotions of the weak.

[Anonymous No.3425949]

>>3425940
Alpha male's don't wear women's jeans.

[Anonymous No.3425951]

>>3425940

>2011
>looking like a faggot

ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.3425963]

>implying that woman looks good.
>implying any woman looks good

[Anonymous No.3425973]

>>3425963

>engineer detected

[Anonymous No.3425997]

>>3425940
When you're attractive you can get away with so many things

[Anonymous No.3426005]

>>3423446
>2011
>Thinks this is what women find attractive

[Anonymous No.3426029]

>>3425963
>I award this 'Gayest comment of the Day'

That woman looks amazing

[Anonymous No.3426034]

>>3425940
Alpha males don't look like giant fag­gots

[Anonymous No.3426205]

Don't ever change /sci/, you bunch of pseudo-intellectual faggots. You crack me up.

[Anonymous No.3426278]

>>3426029
no, this woman looks amazing

[Anonymous No.3426280]

>>3426278
or this one too

[Anonymous No.3426302]

>>3426280
this is about the outer limits of what looks feminine, but this is a pro bodybuilder in a competition. she'd be not-so-ripped and have normal-colored skin most of the time

------

my favorite part of girls saying they won't lift weights is because "they're afraid of growing huge bulging muscles",,,, like it happens in a few weeks and they might not notice until it's too late.

it takes YEARS of lifting to look like that, ya dumb twats. get yer flabby ass on the machines, "too much muscles" is the least of your worries..... if it were that easy, every guy would have done it already

[Anonymous No.3426304]

>>3423446
>anorexic
>>3426278
>photoshopped to hell, looks like a piece of plastic
>>3426280
>its a man baby

Women look good with >0% bodyfat.

[Anonymous No.3426331]

>>3426304
>photoshopped to hell, looks like a piece of plastic

Michelle Cagle
pic might be shooped a bit, but not much.....

[Anonymous No.3426336]

>mfw i saw the bellybutton of the guy in OP's pic
>mfw i realized it wasn't on the midline

[Anonymous No.3426367]

holy shit... it looks like /fit/ rampaged in here and took a massive dump on this thread.

[Anonymous No.3426383]

I have never in my life went to a gym or anything like it and I'm hot as fuck.

[Anonymous No.3426388]

>>3426383

You probably have a fever

[Anonymous No.3426400]

The woman in the pic could look a lot better than she does without looking like she's been on testosterone for three years. This is more an issue of societal standards, what this is saying is all a girl needs is a decent face reasonable boobs and to not be a fat ass.

[Anonymous No.3426401]

>>3426388
All the bitches think I'm a model or some shit like that. Not even close. Not giving a fuck about apparences is the new sexy, and I'm exploiting it.

[Anonymous No.3426405]

>>3426367
well i had to post pics of fit women, since so many guys apparently hadn't ever seen one (its not their fault, really)

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speaking of massive dumps, when was the last good movie that Eddie Murphy was in?

and that voiceover shit in the Shrek series doesn't count

[Anonymous No.3426404]

>>3426401

[Anonymous No.3426512]

>>3425940
>tall
>slightly built
>nicely dressed with personal flair
>can into computers cuz on 4chan, so intelligent (probably)
>expresses opinion, ignores shitty trolling
>makes at least 3 faggot jelly
I could continue. This guy has his shit together